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Post by warehamgas on Oct 27, 2018 21:45:50 GMT
Oh come on dinsdale, you’re going over the top and wildly exaggerating! Actually the coaching must be getting better going on some of the stats. Our defence has been strengthened and after looking like conceding from every cross into our area we have eradicated that from our game on recent evidence. We are the second best defence in the division! We look to have solved our defensive problems (i only hesitate because it could still change again), now we need to solve our attacking problem which will be harder with the resources at our disposal. Whatever, it’s crazy to say the coaching is terrible. It clearly isn’t! UTG! I will rephrase our non defensive,, link up play, crossing, finishing has been appauling. Currently unclear whther all these new signings who performed well at their previously clubs coincidentally all became out of form at the precise moment they signed for us or if ts down to poor coaching. We however have a bloody good keeper I can’t argue with that!😉 UTG!
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Post by tylerdunnell03 on Oct 27, 2018 22:12:56 GMT
I will rephrase our non defensive,, link up play, crossing, finishing has been appauling. Currently unclear whther all these new signings who performed well at their previously clubs coincidentally all became out of form at the precise moment they signed for us or if ts down to poor coaching. We however have a bloody good keeper I can’t argue with that!😉 UTG! I’m not itk obviously. But did anyone else hear on the radio that someone spoke to Holloway and he said something about he would love the chance to manage rovers again.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Oct 27, 2018 22:15:27 GMT
I can’t argue with that!😉 UTG! I’m not itk obviously. But did anyone else hear on the radio that someone spoke to Holloway and he said something about he would love the chance to manage rovers again. Course he would, most clubs won't touch him now.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Oct 27, 2018 22:19:11 GMT
Part of the issue for me is that he has had to sell 70 goals from the side for peanuts and then be expected to find the same quality with even less funding available ... impossible job. Not defending the poor signings but you simply won't replace Taylor for 300k, bodin for 400k and Ellis for 600k? There needs to be some realism of what he was required to replace with the funding made available to him But surely £600K should find you a striker or two who can score 10 goals a season, those 3 have scored 2, including a pen, between them. Walsall's two strikers were a free and £35K. Regardless what do we do just accept relegation because we've sold Harrison in the summer? £600k gets you just over three quarters of an Ellis Harrison...a player that, for the majority of his six seasons at the club, was considered by the boo-hoo boys to be not good enough to start. Hence signing three players who aren't worth what he was worth gets you three strikers who are not good enough to start....and unfortunately that's exactly what we've got.
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Post by darkbluegas on Oct 27, 2018 22:26:23 GMT
I’m not itk obviously. But did anyone else hear on the radio that someone spoke to Holloway and he said something about he would love the chance to manage rovers again. Course he would, most clubs won't touch him now. On a short term basis I think he'd keep us up
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Post by chilly1883 on Oct 27, 2018 22:29:47 GMT
Then the only people to blame, are the owners, because one of the first things that were quoted by our chairman, we no longer have to sale our best players. Which obviously was a load of bollocks, not only that, we sold them for absolute peanuts!! And they were supposed to be astute business men. Embarrassing
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 22:34:05 GMT
Which new signings were performing well at previous clubs? shrewsbury had a terrible run of form later in the season and mk dons got relegated. Over the season they, Payne & Rodman, performed well. Upson's playing OK so he's not the real issue, it's baffling why, after two home games w/o defeat he drops Upson for Lines, then the latter costs us the goal today by leaving the goal scorer in acres of space. www.skysports.com/football/barnsley-vs-bristol-r/393277 I thought upson was dreadful v wimbledon and poor all season but no problem if others dont agree. Shrewsbury were very poor from about march until the end of the season and i just wondered if payne/rodman had lost form during that period? I havnt seen the goal today but for me lines is a much better player than upson.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 22:38:51 GMT
Which new signings were performing well at previous clubs? shrewsbury had a terrible run of form later in the season and mk dons got relegated. In all fairness, Payne scored goals for Shrews last season, and even Nichols scored a few for P'boro. Matthews came in with rave reviews, Rodman was meant to be one of the leagues best wingers last season, and MK Dons fans rated Upson (just because they got relegated doesn't mean they don't have some good players). I dont know whats wrong with our summer signings but nobody would miss them if they vanished without trace,in fact they pretty much have already[vanished without trace]. Its never too late to make an impact though so who knows?
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Post by mariobalotelli on Oct 27, 2018 22:45:53 GMT
Course he would, most clubs won't touch him now. On a short term basis I think he'd keep us up So will DC though
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Post by Colyton Gas on Oct 27, 2018 22:57:46 GMT
As a club we are drifting without direction and seemingly no ambition to progress.Needs a major overhaul,cash injection,new training ground,new stadium.Can't see the current set -up taking us in the right direction and have to confess despite my admiration for DC,most of our signings have been really poor.We lack quality and I'm losing the will to travel to games with such mediocrity on view.Something will change soon .It has to or oblivion beckons. Is there anybody out there at the helm or shall we just go on forever not scoring.Perhaps it's only the fans who care.Feeling let down to-night.
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Post by darkbluegas on Oct 27, 2018 23:19:31 GMT
On a short term basis I think he'd keep us up So will DC though I hope you're right but our points return since January 1st would suggest otherwise. It's even worse since the start of February. I like DC and what he's done for the club but I have my doubts about him turning this situation around. With the way the gulf is opening up between leagues we can't afford another spell in the Fourth Division
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Post by wertongas on Oct 28, 2018 8:23:04 GMT
I have supported the Rovers for over 40years and one thing I have noticed more than anything is inconsistent team selection leads to inconsistent performances which leads to inconsistent results. When Managers have chopped and changed teams week in week out for what ever reason like DC has over the last couple of seasons the side has struggled and ultimately the manager has lost his job. Chopping and changing players around does not work at this level never has done never will do. DC should know his best team by now. The best players this season have been the one's first on the team sheet namely central defenders and the Clark's plus goalie.Players being continuesly dropped leads to a drop in confidence and form. Last season Payne and Rodman scored over 20 goals between them for Shrewsbury one every two games they are good players at this level but need managing better.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 28, 2018 8:42:10 GMT
I have supported the Rovers for over 40years and one thing I have noticed more than anything is inconsistent team selection leads to inconsistent performances which leads to inconsistent results. When Managers have chopped and changed teams week in week out for what ever reason like DC has over the last couple of seasons the side has struggled and ultimately the manager has lost his job. Chopping and changing players around does not work at this level never has done never will do. DC should know his best team by now. The best players this season have been the one's first on the team sheet namely central defenders and the Clark's plus goalie.Players being continuesly dropped leads to a drop in confidence and form. Last season Payne and Rodman scored over 20 goals between them for Shrewsbury one every two games they are good players at this level but need managing better. That's not really true, though, coz everyone complained about DC chopping and changing the team in the run-up to our promotion from League 2 a few years ago. If you go back to our run-in threads, where we won something like 11 out of 14, people are still complaining about the unsettled side, and melting down when we draw away. Basically, when we're successful, everyone forgets what they were whining about.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 8:46:43 GMT
I have supported the Rovers for over 40years and one thing I have noticed more than anything is inconsistent team selection leads to inconsistent performances which leads to inconsistent results. When Managers have chopped and changed teams week in week out for what ever reason like DC has over the last couple of seasons the side has struggled and ultimately the manager has lost his job. Chopping and changing players around does not work at this level never has done never will do. DC should know his best team by now. The best players this season have been the one's first on the team sheet namely central defenders and the Clark's plus goalie.Players being continuesly dropped leads to a drop in confidence and form. Last season Payne and Rodman scored over 20 goals between them for Shrewsbury one every two games they are good players at this level but need managing better. That's not really true, though, coz everyone complained about DC chopping and changing the team in the run-up to our promotion from League 2 a few years ago. If you go back to our run-in threads, where we won something like 11 out of 14, people are still complaining about the unsettled side, and melting down when we draw away. Basically, when we're successful, everyone forgets what they were whining about. This is a tougher division and consistency with team selection and formation would hopefully benefit the team and better results.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Oct 28, 2018 8:51:36 GMT
That's not really true, though, coz everyone complained about DC chopping and changing the team in the run-up to our promotion from League 2 a few years ago. If you go back to our run-in threads, where we won something like 11 out of 14, people are still complaining about the unsettled side, and melting down when we draw away. Basically, when we're successful, everyone forgets what they were whining about. This is a tougher division and consistency with team selection and formation would hopefully benefit the team and better results. Well, that's an opinion, but my post is a disagreement with the idea that it has been proven through our results. There is no proof, it's just an opinion. Pointing out that we were successful with a changing side before gets the response that that was only in the lower leagues and doesn't apply now. Pointing out that teams have been successful with a changing side in the Prem and Championship gets the response that that is at a higher level and doesn't apply to us. You can be successful with a steady side. You can be successful with a changing side.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 8:58:33 GMT
This is a tougher division and consistency with team selection and formation would hopefully benefit the team and better results. Well, that's an opinion, but my post is a disagreement with the idea that it has been proven through our results. There is no proof, it's just an opinion. Pointing out that we were successful with a changing side before gets the response that that was only in the lower leagues and doesn't apply now. Pointing out that teams have been successful with a changing side in the Prem and Championship gets the response that that is at a higher level and doesn't apply to us. You can be successful with a steady side. You can be successful with a changing side. Fair point but imo the squad of players DC got in a tough division don’t work with chopping and changing by on average about 4 players a game and we ain’t got 11 players good enough for this division.
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Post by Raj Gas on Oct 28, 2018 9:26:37 GMT
This is a tougher division and consistency with team selection and formation would hopefully benefit the team and better results. Well, that's an opinion, but my post is a disagreement with the idea that it has been proven through our results. There is no proof, it's just an opinion. Pointing out that we were successful with a changing side before gets the response that that was only in the lower leagues and doesn't apply now. Pointing out that teams have been successful with a changing side in the Prem and Championship gets the response that that is at a higher level and doesn't apply to us. You can be successful with a steady side. You can be successful with a changing side. Providing the players buy in to it and I think that's the problem, the old ones did and the new ones don't!
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Post by wertongas on Oct 28, 2018 9:30:52 GMT
DC may have chopped and changed the team when we were in the conference but we had a league 2team then playing in non league football the team we have now is certainly not better than the division we are in. Chopping and changing the side around May work in the Prem where you have world class players sitting on the bench but when a Rovers side has struggled and the past there has often been inconsistent team selection.
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 28, 2018 11:37:52 GMT
And what could another manager do better with the resources available? DC's wasted £600K on strikers, Nichols, Mensah, Payne, in two seasons, what other mid table Div 1 side has had that amount of money to spend? It's nonsense to say he's got limited resources. When are some going to realise that spending that kind of figure on 3 strikers isn’t big money anymore. It’s the equivalent of about £50k 15 years ago when we were spending £250k on people like Martin Cameron and Micky Evans. Other managers have spent far more and achieved far less in returns for no success in comparison to DC.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 11:54:40 GMT
I have supported the Rovers for over 40years and one thing I have noticed more than anything is inconsistent team selection leads to inconsistent performances which leads to inconsistent results. When Managers have chopped and changed teams week in week out for what ever reason like DC has over the last couple of seasons the side has struggled and ultimately the manager has lost his job. Chopping and changing players around does not work at this level never has done never will do. DC should know his best team by now. The best players this season have been the one's first on the team sheet namely central defenders and the Clark's plus goalie.Players being continuesly dropped leads to a drop in confidence and form. Last season Payne and Rodman scored over 20 goals between them for Shrewsbury one every two games they are good players at this level but need managing better. That's not really true, though, coz everyone complained about DC chopping and changing the team in the run-up to our promotion from League 2 a few years ago. If you go back to our run-in threads, where we won something like 11 out of 14, people are still complaining about the unsettled side, and melting down when we draw away. Basically, when we're successful, everyone forgets what they were whining about. [r] Spot on. Good post.
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