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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 13:51:34 GMT
Who's gonna drop? Finding it incredibly difficult to predict right now.My view is none of the current 4 dwellers will end up being relegated.Bradford have the resources and still some more than decent players to survive,think they willl steer well clear.Wimbledon are used to a relegation scrap and will do just enough to stay up.Plymouth and Oxford have both picked up recently and I don't see them being in the relegation zone for too much longer.So my candidates will be: Wycombe - my banker selection Gillingham - Eaves goal scoring run will dry up,if it continues he will be gone January Walsall - done well so far but form already going downhill Shrewsbury - i think they are the unlikeliest of my 4 to drop but they just might.
What is everyone else's 4? Might be interesting to revisit at seasons end and I predict nobody will get more than 2 correct!
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Post by toddy1953 on Nov 5, 2018 13:55:19 GMT
Who's gonna drop? Finding it incredibly difficult to predict right now.My view is none of the current 4 dwellers will end up being relegated.Bradford have the resources and still some more than decent players to survive,think they willl steer well clear.Wimbledon are used to a relegation scrap and will do just enough to stay up.Plymouth and Oxford have both picked up recently and I don't see them being in the relegation zone for too much longer.So my candidates will be: Wycombe - my banker selection Gillingham - Eaves goal scoring run will dry up,if it continues he will be gone January Walsall - done well so far but form already going downhill Shrewsbury - i think they are the unlikeliest of my 4 to drop but they just might. What is everyone else's 4? Might be interesting to revisit at seasons end and I predict nobody will get more than 2 correct! Any 4 from the other 23 teams will be fine with me
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Nov 5, 2018 14:06:31 GMT
I think Oxford and Plymouth might escape, with Scunthoprpe and Shrewsbury my favourites to go down.
Istm at this stage of the season goal difference can be a decent indicator of where teams will end up, which means you have to have a look at Rochdale, too.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2018 14:14:08 GMT
Who's gonna drop? Finding it incredibly difficult to predict right now.My view is none of the current 4 dwellers will end up being relegated.Bradford have the resources and still some more than decent players to survive,think they willl steer well clear.Wimbledon are used to a relegation scrap and will do just enough to stay up.Plymouth and Oxford have both picked up recently and I don't see them being in the relegation zone for too much longer.So my candidates will be: Wycombe - my banker selection Gillingham - Eaves goal scoring run will dry up,if it continues he will be gone January Walsall - done well so far but form already going downhill Shrewsbury - i think they are the unlikeliest of my 4 to drop but they just might. What is everyone else's 4? Might be interesting to revisit at seasons end and I predict nobody will get more than 2 correct! It's impossible to predict this early in the season, if Walsall beat Coventry at home next they could go back into joint 6th, so saying they'll be in the bottom 4 is a bit random purely based on this season's form. Likewise Wycombe have won 3 out of the last 5 games so their current form is the best outside the top 7!. Meanwhile Bradford & Wimbledon have both lost 5 consecutive games and the former could well be this season's MK Dons. Scunthopre look in free fall and, like Bradford, surely can't keep sacking managers?
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Post by axegas on Nov 5, 2018 14:29:13 GMT
Don’t look past Bradford just because they are a big club, really struggling as of late and a 0-0 draw at home against us says it all. AFC Wimbledon for me seem certainties to go down too. They weren’t actually that bad when I saw them against us but they they seemed unsure of themselves going forward and defensively and without Lyle Taylor’s goals, I’d say survival for them would be a bridge too far.
Shrewsbury, Scunthorpe and Rochdale are also candidates for the drop in my mind, I think us, Oxford and Plymouth will start to climb the league in the second half of the season and it will be clubs like these that will fill the bottom half.
As for Walsall, they’ve had a great first half of the season, does anyone seriously expect them to get relegated?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 5, 2018 14:32:55 GMT
Don’t look past Bradford just because they are a big club, really struggling as of late and a 0-0 draw at home against us says it all. AFC Wimbledon for me seem certainties to go down too. They weren’t actually that bad when I saw them against us but they they seemed unsure of themselves going forward and defensively and without Lyle Taylor’s goals, I’d say survival for them would be a bridge too far. Shrewsbury, Scunthorpe and Rochdale are also candidates for the drop in my mind, I think us, Oxford and Plymouth will start to climb the league in the second half of the season and it will be clubs like these that will fill the bottom half. As for Walsall, they’ve had a great first half of the season, does anyone seriously expect them to get relegated?Yeah, bertram
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 17:48:32 GMT
Who's gonna drop? Finding it incredibly difficult to predict right now.My view is none of the current 4 dwellers will end up being relegated.Bradford have the resources and still some more than decent players to survive,think they willl steer well clear.Wimbledon are used to a relegation scrap and will do just enough to stay up.Plymouth and Oxford have both picked up recently and I don't see them being in the relegation zone for too much longer.So my candidates will be: Wycombe - my banker selection Gillingham - Eaves goal scoring run will dry up,if it continues he will be gone January Walsall - done well so far but form already going downhill Shrewsbury - i think they are the unlikeliest of my 4 to drop but they just might. What is everyone else's 4? Might be interesting to revisit at seasons end and I predict nobody will get more than 2 correct! It's impossible to predict this early in the season, if Walsall beat Coventry at home next they could go back into joint 6th, so saying they'll be in the bottom 4 is a bit random purely based on this season's form. Likewise Wycombe have won 3 out of the last 5 games so their current form is the best outside the top 7!. Meanwhile Bradford & Wimbledon have both lost 5 consecutive games and the former could well be this season's MK Dons. Scunthopre look in free fall and, like Bradford, surely can't keep sacking managers? But easier to predict now than with 46 games to go,no? As said,Walsall are already on a downturn in form - lost 3 of their last 4 and were sh** against us.Wycombe still have some impetus from last season,again,crap when we played them and they're cheating bastards! Anyways it's just a bit of fun man so chill.
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Post by pirate on Nov 5, 2018 17:59:02 GMT
In no particular order
Wimbledon Wycombe Shrewsbury Gillingham
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 5, 2018 18:18:32 GMT
It's impossible to predict this early in the season, if Walsall beat Coventry at home next they could go back into joint 6th, so saying they'll be in the bottom 4 is a bit random purely based on this season's form. Likewise Wycombe have won 3 out of the last 5 games so their current form is the best outside the top 7!. Meanwhile Bradford & Wimbledon have both lost 5 consecutive games and the former could well be this season's MK Dons. Scunthopre look in free fall and, like Bradford, surely can't keep sacking managers? But easier to predict now than with 46 games to go,no? As said,Walsall are already on a downturn in form - lost 3 of their last 4 and were sh** against us.Wycombe still have some impetus from last season,again,crap when we played them and they're cheating bastards! Anyways it's just a bit of fun man so chill. Walsall have won 2 out of the last 5 which seems par for the course for any of the clubs outside the top 6, not sure being crap v us a couple of months ago suggests Wycomebe will go down as if that's part of the criteria then Blackpool & Coventry better start worrying.
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Post by oldtoteender on Nov 5, 2018 20:17:24 GMT
For me it will be Wimbledon, Bradford, Scunthorpe, and either Rochdale or Blackpool lets face it if we can stick three past the latter on their own patch they must be in trouble.
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 5, 2018 20:27:11 GMT
Gas Wimbledon Bradford Rochdale
One win versus Blackpool does not make me forget how abysmal we have been this season. We are still one of the worst 5 teams in the league and I don't see that changing.
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 5, 2018 20:39:08 GMT
Gas Wimbledon Bradford Rochdale One win versus Blackpool does not make me forget how abysmal we have been this season. We are still one of the worst 5 teams in the league and I don't see that changing. So long as we are the 5th worst team I’ll probably settle for that!😉 UTG!
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Post by Jomo on Nov 6, 2018 9:32:30 GMT
Interesting thread, of course impossible to predict at this stage as with all the managerial merry-gorounds and January transfer business to come, you just don't know.
You always get a team that drops like a stone from nowhere to go down late in the season. And you always get a team (or teams) that rally and escape the drop against the odds.
Based on hunches and nothing more, I would say in no particular order:
Bradford - even at this stage I think they're getting into a right mess and will soon be left with too much to do if and when they do get it right.
Wimbledon - like us they've done amazingly well to last until a 3rd year at this level, but I think their resistance will run out this year.
Scunthorpe - dreadful defensive record thus far, and if they lose any of their stronger forwards in January they could be a big trouble.
Hunch Option: Blackpool - a damaging defeat to us after a good start. They don't score too many and after a great start defensively, to lose so tamely to a goalshy team such as us, who knows what sort of negative momentum that might create. Their fans are staying away in protest, they've got a fairly rookie manager who had a good bounce as caretaker. All the ingredients for a downward spiral unless the team can recapture their form again quickly.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 6, 2018 10:15:18 GMT
Interesting thread, of course impossible to predict at this stage as with all the managerial merry-gorounds and January transfer business to come, you just don't know. You always get a team that drops like a stone from nowhere to go down late in the season. And you always get a team (or teams) that rally and escape the drop against the odds. Based on hunches and nothing more, I would say in no particular order: Bradford - even at this stage I think they're getting into a right mess and will soon be left with too much to do if and when they do get it right. Wimbledon - like us they've done amazingly well to last until a 3rd year at this level, but I think their resistance will run out this year. Scunthorpe - dreadful defensive record thus far, and if they lose any of their stronger forwards in January they could be a big trouble. Hunch Option: Blackpool - a damaging defeat to us after a good start. They don't score too many and after a great start defensively, to lose so tamely to a goalshy team such as us, who knows what sort of negative momentum that might create. Their fans are staying away in protest, they've got a fairly rookie manager who had a good bounce as caretaker. All the ingredients for a downward spiral unless the team can recapture their form again quickly. I honestly dont get it when people say we have done amazingly to stay at this level..wtf?? The Mem is a shithole but its capacity is of league one standard.Our avg home gates have been 9k over the past 3 seasons ( I know they have dipped over past month ) and these are gates that most L1 clubs apart from the big clubs like portsmouth, sunderland etc would love to draw in every other week.. Our history tells us that we are at top half league one side.Even with the mem being the old cow that she is, we should always be able to stay as at least a league one club unless we have bad management. I hate this "ragbag Rovers" tag that people still use today as its complete bollox!
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Post by Jomo on Nov 6, 2018 10:29:33 GMT
Interesting thread, of course impossible to predict at this stage as with all the managerial merry-gorounds and January transfer business to come, you just don't know. You always get a team that drops like a stone from nowhere to go down late in the season. And you always get a team (or teams) that rally and escape the drop against the odds. Based on hunches and nothing more, I would say in no particular order: Bradford - even at this stage I think they're getting into a right mess and will soon be left with too much to do if and when they do get it right. Wimbledon - like us they've done amazingly well to last until a 3rd year at this level, but I think their resistance will run out this year. Scunthorpe - dreadful defensive record thus far, and if they lose any of their stronger forwards in January they could be a big trouble. Hunch Option: Blackpool - a damaging defeat to us after a good start. They don't score too many and after a great start defensively, to lose so tamely to a goalshy team such as us, who knows what sort of negative momentum that might create. Their fans are staying away in protest, they've got a fairly rookie manager who had a good bounce as caretaker. All the ingredients for a downward spiral unless the team can recapture their form again quickly. I honestly dont get it when people say we have done amazingly to stay at this level..wtf?? The Mem is a shithole but its capacity is of league one standard.Our avg home gates have been 9k over the past 3 seasons ( I know they have dipped over past month ) and these are gates that most L1 clubs apart from the big clubs like portsmouth, sunderland etc would love to draw in every other week.. Our history tells us that we are at top half league one side.Even with the mem being the old cow that she is, we should always be able to stay as at least a league one club unless we have bad management. I hate this "ragbag Rovers" tag that people still use today as its complete bollox! I see your point, however I do believe we've done well to be midtable finishers in our first 2 seasons back in L1. Reason being is we came up via successive promotion. Many teams who do that struggle to maintain their status at that level due to the speed of their ascent, unless they have significant financial help from their owners (like Fleetwood etc). We have still got the core of players that got us up from the Conference, more so in fact last year and their year before. To stay up and actually get reasonably close to the top 6, with essentially a L2/Conf squad, is quite an achievement wouldn't you agree? However now that we've done well to establish ourselves back at this level, I agree that we should have enough to stay up without it being considered a fine achievement.
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Post by faggotygas on Nov 6, 2018 10:54:40 GMT
Interesting thread, of course impossible to predict at this stage as with all the managerial merry-gorounds and January transfer business to come, you just don't know. You always get a team that drops like a stone from nowhere to go down late in the season. And you always get a team (or teams) that rally and escape the drop against the odds. Based on hunches and nothing more, I would say in no particular order: Bradford - even at this stage I think they're getting into a right mess and will soon be left with too much to do if and when they do get it right. Wimbledon - like us they've done amazingly well to last until a 3rd year at this level, but I think their resistance will run out this year. Scunthorpe - dreadful defensive record thus far, and if they lose any of their stronger forwards in January they could be a big trouble. Hunch Option: Blackpool - a damaging defeat to us after a good start. They don't score too many and after a great start defensively, to lose so tamely to a goalshy team such as us, who knows what sort of negative momentum that might create. Their fans are staying away in protest, they've got a fairly rookie manager who had a good bounce as caretaker. All the ingredients for a downward spiral unless the team can recapture their form again quickly. I honestly dont get it when people say we have done amazingly to stay at this level..wtf?? The Mem is a shithole but its capacity is of league one standard.Our avg home gates have been 9k over the past 3 seasons ( I know they have dipped over past month ) and these are gates that most L1 clubs apart from the big clubs like portsmouth, sunderland etc would love to draw in every other week.. Our history tells us that we are at top half league one side.Even with the mem being the old cow that she is, we should always be able to stay as at least a league one club unless we have bad management. I hate this "ragbag Rovers" tag that people still use today as its complete bollox! Recent history.
1. 3 years ago we were a Conference club. 2. Our average position over the past 20 years is somewhere in the bottom half of League 2 3. Our average attendance is not exceptional, it's average 4. It's not all about gate money. The amount that the owners are willing to invest is the other big income for teams, and our owners are willing to invest very little. Our non-first team costs also seem quite high.
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Post by Icegas on Nov 6, 2018 10:56:17 GMT
I honestly dont get it when people say we have done amazingly to stay at this level..wtf?? The Mem is a shithole but its capacity is of league one standard.Our avg home gates have been 9k over the past 3 seasons ( I know they have dipped over past month ) and these are gates that most L1 clubs apart from the big clubs like portsmouth, sunderland etc would love to draw in every other week.. Our history tells us that we are at top half league one side.Even with the mem being the old cow that she is, we should always be able to stay as at least a league one club unless we have bad management. I hate this "ragbag Rovers" tag that people still use today as its complete bollox! I see your point, however I do believe we've done well to be midtable finishers in our first 2 seasons back in L1. Reason being is we came up via successive promotion. Many teams who do that struggle to maintain their status at that level due to the speed of their ascent, unless they have significant financial help from their owners (like Fleetwood etc). We have still got the core of players that got us up from the Conference, more so in fact last year and their year before. To stay up and actually get reasonably close to the top 6, with essentially a L2/Conf squad, is quite an achievement wouldn't you agree? However now that we've done well to establish ourselves back at this level, I agree that we should have enough to stay up without it being considered a fine achievement. Good post, completly agree. Given our situation and start to the season staying up can be classed as a success now.
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Post by neilv93 on Nov 6, 2018 13:28:24 GMT
In no particular order Wimbledon Wycombe Shrewsbury Gillingham That'd be my four too. Honourable mention for Bradford who are truly abysmal.
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Post by CrispPusher on Nov 6, 2018 13:43:17 GMT
I honestly dont get it when people say we have done amazingly to stay at this level..wtf?? The Mem is a shithole but its capacity is of league one standard.Our avg home gates have been 9k over the past 3 seasons ( I know they have dipped over past month ) and these are gates that most L1 clubs apart from the big clubs like portsmouth, sunderland etc would love to draw in every other week.. Our history tells us that we are at top half league one side.Even with the mem being the old cow that she is, we should always be able to stay as at least a league one club unless we have bad management. I hate this "ragbag Rovers" tag that people still use today as its complete bollox! Recent history.
1. 3 years ago we were a Conference club. 2. Our average position over the past 20 years is somewhere in the bottom half of League 2 3. Our average attendance is not exceptional, it's average 4. It's not all about gate money. The amount that the owners are willing to invest is the other big income for teams, and our owners are willing to invest very little. Our non-first team costs also seem quite high.
Clubs with modest attendances and modern stadia are also more likely to generate greater non-matchday revenue than BRFC can at the Mem.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 6, 2018 14:39:02 GMT
I honestly dont get it when people say we have done amazingly to stay at this level..wtf?? The Mem is a shithole but its capacity is of league one standard.Our avg home gates have been 9k over the past 3 seasons ( I know they have dipped over past month ) and these are gates that most L1 clubs apart from the big clubs like portsmouth, sunderland etc would love to draw in every other week.. Our history tells us that we are at top half league one side.Even with the mem being the old cow that she is, we should always be able to stay as at least a league one club unless we have bad management. I hate this "ragbag Rovers" tag that people still use today as its complete bollox! Recent history.
1. 3 years ago we were a Conference club. 2. Our average position over the past 20 years is somewhere in the bottom half of League 2 3. Our average attendance is not exceptional, it's average 4. It's not all about gate money. The amount that the owners are willing to invest is the other big income for teams, and our owners are willing to invest very little. Our non-first team costs also seem quite high.
Which other mid table club's owners are, seemingly, content to let losses increase at the rate of £1m to £2m p.a.? I get the annoyance at the lack of progress on the stadium etc but the suggestion that the ALQ's are not supporting DC financially is a bit of a myth.
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