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Post by LJG on Nov 18, 2018 19:29:37 GMT
So just persevere with something that is plainly not working? Yes, if the alternative is worse that's exactly what we should do.
In any case, our other strikers should have a far better chance of scoring playing alongside Nichols than without him. Nichols goal return has been shocking but he's definitely the best footballer and most creative forward we have.
However, I don't personally believe our other strikers are good enough even if their strike partner was Ronaldo.
There's no basis for saying the alternative is worse. The evidence even points directly to the contrary.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 18, 2018 21:27:25 GMT
Yes, if the alternative is worse that's exactly what we should do.
In any case, our other strikers should have a far better chance of scoring playing alongside Nichols than without him. Nichols goal return has been shocking but he's definitely the best footballer and most creative forward we have.
However, I don't personally believe our other strikers are good enough even if their strike partner was Ronaldo.
There's no basis for saying the alternative is worse. The evidence even points directly to the contrary. But what if his replacement is worse at not scoring? You are going to look rather stupid then aren't you.
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Post by LJG on Nov 18, 2018 22:04:33 GMT
There's no basis for saying the alternative is worse. The evidence even points directly to the contrary. But what if his replacement is worse at not scoring? You are going to look rather stupid then aren't you. Errr ... how's that? I'm not a soothsayer so I have no idea how giving another striker an opportunity would work out. All I can do is look at the current evidence (2 goals in fewer than 20 appearances for Jak versus 2 goals in 61 appearances for Nicholls) and say that it is likely that it might work out better. My point has pretty much already been proved: Dominic Telford. EDIT - Hang on. Just re-read your post. I get it now. Cunning!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 18, 2018 22:07:28 GMT
Jesus this bloke isn't still running Nichols done is he. All he's done all weekend is run the poor lad down. 5 assists in 3 games.
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Post by aghast on Nov 18, 2018 22:12:10 GMT
Reilly 6 starts and 7 sub appearances. 13 in total. Jakubiak 5 starts and 10 sub appearances. 15 in total. Payne 15 starts and 3 sub appearances. 18 in total. They may not have played as many minutes as Nichols but they've certainly all had numerous chances. Unfortunately for 95% of their time on the pitch you wouldn't even know they were out there.
Nichols on the other hand has been instrumental in almost all our best attacking play and has directly assisted in 4 goals in our last 3 games.
I'm a big critic but the fact that I probably have to agree that Nichols with his record is our best striker speaks volumes. The title shouldn't be Nichols should be dropped but we desperately need a strike force. They should all be dropped. Sad but true, in my opinion. We are arguing here about the relative scale of how bad our strikers are, not how good they are. We've had a lot of poor strikers scattered across the years (many worse than this lot), but to use the London Bus analogy, as someone else did recently, this season we seem to have had 4 or 5 arrive at the same time.
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Post by gaseous on Nov 18, 2018 22:17:06 GMT
Hahaha Matt Harold the legend hahaha
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 18, 2018 22:17:07 GMT
But what if his replacement is worse at not scoring? You are going to look rather stupid then aren't you. Errr ... how's that? I'm not a soothsayer so I have no idea how giving another striker an opportunity would work out. All I can do is look at the current evidence (2 goals in fewer than 20 appearances for Jak versus 2 goals in 61 appearances for Nicholls) and say that it is likely that it might work out better. My point has pretty much already been proved: Dominic Telford. <iframe width="24.5" height="7.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 24.5px; height: 7.399999999999977px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_65945965" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.5" height="7.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 24.5px; height: 7.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1164px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_10029686" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.5" height="7.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 24.5px; height: 7.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 307px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_8016534" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="24.5" height="7.399999999999977" style="position: absolute; width: 24.5px; height: 7.4px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1164px; top: 307px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_92468844" scrolling="no"></iframe> Telford was a sub for Bury yesterday after he's scored a measly one goal in his last 10 Div 2 league games, think his stats are proving he's not a Div 1 striker. Regardless our next game is one which Jakubiak is unlikely to play in any event. If we do fail to beat Barnet, assuming it's not a high scoring defeat, I doubt many of us will disagree Jakubiak should be given a chance. Although good luck to him at Charlton and Sunderland!!
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Post by gaseous on Nov 18, 2018 22:28:29 GMT
This is exactly the problem - Jakubiak came on in the 84th minute and you're comparing it to Nicholls 96 minutes on the pitch. Jakubiak also played a full game v Exeter reserves on Tuesday and did nothing of note. Sadly neither him nor Reilly seem the answer. Plus I doubt Watford will allow him play on Tuesday anyway. So how much really has Reilly had in terms of game time to do nothing then? He's had 6 games and he scored in his first game with a 1 on 1 with the keeper, even the fantastic Nichols can't do that and Reilly has had a few cameo appearances before and after that. It's DC's selection that is the problem, how about giving Reilly a good run in the side, like Nichols has had, then we might just see more from him.
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Post by wertongas on Nov 18, 2018 22:38:33 GMT
I still think Nichols should be used at the top end of the midfield where he can create chances for two forwards infront of him and for fellow midfielders such as Sercombe and Bennett.
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Post by james246 on Nov 18, 2018 23:22:17 GMT
Tom is a neat player but does not have a killer instinct, the statistics are irrefutable. He does not have a burst of pace to get behind defenders, and when the ball falls to him in a good position he does not have that quick finishing strike. The manager needs to change his attitude with regard to our attacking options
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Post by singupgas on Nov 19, 2018 7:29:49 GMT
Personally, I see him playing behind two strikers if formation allows, in a Modric style role. Technically he is very good you can see that, he is battling more which is great but if he was natural finisher he doesnt appear to be any more.
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Post by montygas on Nov 19, 2018 8:17:21 GMT
Play Nichols in a CAM role he seems pretty competent at setting goals up for others, just need a striker in front of him that knows where the net is (with confidence).
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 19, 2018 9:02:01 GMT
So all the people who think Nichols should play as an attacking midfielder where do you play Sercombe?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2018 9:06:42 GMT
So all the people who think Nichols should play as an attacking midfielder where do you play Sercombe? Sercombe will be gone in January so don’t worry Hugo.
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Post by kylegas on Nov 19, 2018 9:07:33 GMT
It’s all well and good calling for Payne and Nichols to be dropped but where do we go from there? Rielly and Jakubiak?... yeah great haha
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 19, 2018 9:07:53 GMT
So all the people who think Nichols should play as an attacking midfielder where do you play Sercombe? Obviously we will sell our biggest asset
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Post by singupgas on Nov 19, 2018 10:20:21 GMT
So all the people who think Nichols should play as an attacking midfielder where do you play Sercombe? Sercombe will be gone in January so don’t worry Hugo. The AlQ will continue selling our best players.
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Post by Marshy on Nov 19, 2018 10:26:56 GMT
So all the people who think Nichols should play as an attacking midfielder where do you play Sercombe? Obviously we will sell our biggest asset The Mem
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Post by scoobydoogas on Nov 19, 2018 11:17:51 GMT
So all the people who think Nichols should play as an attacking midfielder where do you play Sercombe? Obviously we will sell our biggest asset Our biggest asset at the moment is Payne. Have you noticed how overweight he looks.
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Post by titchthephot on Nov 19, 2018 11:51:20 GMT
Is it really the fault of the owners/manager/chairman etc that our best players were sold? Surely the fault lies with their agents who turn the players heads with dreams of 'big time football' with a pay packet to match! If a player is told that a bigger club is after them they will want to go (wouldn't we all do that?) and yes, they have a contract to stay with us but once their heart isn't in it there is no point keeping them. Plus, why wait until their contract is up and then have to give them away? So surely, rather than keep blaming the Al Q family for everything going wrong with our strike force blame (that's not really the right word) the players for wanting to better themselves? (except Snake who took the wrong choice!). It's going to be a tough season but I will still be a supporter no matter what (I've got to be now because I'm getting a personalised Gas number plate for xmas!!).
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