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Post by althepirate on Nov 25, 2018 11:51:20 GMT
Some on here want DC out but be careful what you wish for as there are a lot worse out there. Listening to these two guys interviews yesterday highlights the difference in their character. The sheeds who went to Leeds all said City were crap, but on comes Johnson saying how good it was. Contrast to Darrell who was even less satisfied than I thought he would be and told the truth. Personally I would hate to watch a game and be fed bullshit afterwards by the manager. All Johnson does is use political spin to keep his job imo.
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Post by gregsy on Nov 25, 2018 12:36:55 GMT
I had a look on otib about the LJ interview and one user said: "Blokes talking out of his Henbury Gas"  |
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 25, 2018 12:48:13 GMT
Totally accept the risks and our history regarding replacing managers. Whats different to the past is everyone really wants to see DC do well and it would feel terrible if he left. Rational hat on the secret to success at Rovers is recruitment as we have limited resources. What other manager at the club spent what DC has on a strike force ? Its these decisions that make and break our club. Its a tough call but im not convinced in his recruitment or how he sets us up in August and as such he may have reached his potential at our club. Would love to be wrong
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 25, 2018 15:34:01 GMT
I had a look on otib about the LJ interview and one user said: "Blokes talking out of his Henbury Gas" I see they still love me they hate it because they know i'm right all the time  |
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Nov 25, 2018 15:47:31 GMT
Totally accept the risks and our history regarding replacing managers. Whats different to the past is everyone really wants to see DC do well and it would feel terrible if he left. Rational hat on the secret to success at Rovers is recruitment as we have limited resources. What other manager at the club spent what DC has on a strike force ? Its these decisions that make and break our club. Its a tough call but im not convinced in his recruitment or how he sets us up in August and as such he may have reached his potential at our club. Would love to be wrong You say this but you are only talking about the unsuccessful players that he's signed because they are the ones we have at the minute. In DC's time here he's signed Bodin and Taylor on a free who were great goalscorers for us before being sold on, he turned Harrison from a player that supporters didn't want us to keep hold of in the Conference into a League One goalscorer being sold to a Championship club. And even Gaffney to an extent was a success for us that he signed for a pittance. Yes he's spent some of that money on 2 strikers that have (so far) been unsuccessful. But it doesn't matter who you have at the helm, if you keep selling your best players and give the manager a quarter of that money to spend, you're going to end up going backwards at some point. |
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Post by stapletongas on Nov 25, 2018 16:05:06 GMT
You also have talk about the players available to go after and even then who you can cut a deal with.
If it ain’t available, or ain’t willing it ain’t happening.
There was fair indication that targets went elsewhere.
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 25, 2018 16:09:39 GMT
You also have talk about the players available to go after and even then who you can cut a deal with. If it ain’t available, or ain’t willing it ain’t happening. There was fair indication that targets went elsewhere. And, given our increasingly desperate position, the reality is more are likely to say no thank rather than yes please. So it becomes a very unvirtuous circle. Putting names on a target list is easy, getting signatures on a contract not quite so easy. |
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Post by socrates on Nov 25, 2018 16:18:57 GMT
Totally accept the risks and our history regarding replacing managers. Whats different to the past is everyone really wants to see DC do well and it would feel terrible if he left. Rational hat on the secret to success at Rovers is recruitment as we have limited resources. What other manager at the club spent what DC has on a strike force ? Its these decisions that make and break our club. Its a tough call but im not convinced in his recruitment or how he sets us up in August and as such he may have reached his potential at our club. Would love to be wrong You say this but you are only talking about the unsuccessful players that he's signed because they are the ones we have at the minute. In DC's time here he's signed Bodin and Taylor on a free who were great goalscorers for us before being sold on, he turned Harrison from a player that supporters didn't want us to keep hold of in the Conference into a League One goalscorer being sold to a Championship club. And even Gaffney to an extent was a success for us that he signed for a pittance. Yes he's spent some of that money on 2 strikers that have (so far) been unsuccessful. But it doesn't matter who you have at the helm, if you keep selling your best players and give the manager a quarter of that money to spend, you're going to end up going backwards at some point. Exactly and that’s what we’ve pretty much always done. DC broke the trend for four years which is an incredible achievement but we couldn’t seriously expect him to continue to unearth these cheap or free players and keep winning promotion , sooner or later he was going to have a season where he got it wrong or just average and we’d end up in trouble . Even the best managers have a season where they get it wrong and DC isn’t even one of the best but he is very good. |
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Nov 25, 2018 16:56:43 GMT
On the face of it Rodman, Payne and Nichols were all very good signings. Payne and Rodman had good seasons last year in a successful team, other notable signings like Sercombe, was player of the season for us last season. Recruiting players is always done based on potential, based on what is seen at another club,the players for whatever reason just aren’t jelling yet, maybe if rodman and Payne click, or the Watford lad, we’ll have a better 2nd half of the season, but if we give DC the flick (which the board won’t do because he’s the guy to absorb all the fans vitriol at the moment) who will want the job? Let’s get behind DC and if we do go down I’d have him next season to get us back up too because the ground needs sorting off the field for us to flourish, not wether in the short term we take a step back first, let’s keep talking to anyone who will listen to us about the ground, or lack of it, that’s what we need for medium to long term survival and hopefully success of our club.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 17:55:29 GMT
Totally accept the risks and our history regarding replacing managers. Whats different to the past is everyone really wants to see DC do well and it would feel terrible if he left. Rational hat on the secret to success at Rovers is recruitment as we have limited resources. What other manager at the club spent what DC has on a strike force ? Its these decisions that make and break our club. Its a tough call but im not convinced in his recruitment or how he sets us up in August and as such he may have reached his potential at our club. Would love to be wrong You say this but you are only talking about the unsuccessful players that he's signed because they are the ones we have at the minute. In DC's time here he's signed Bodin and Taylor on a free who were great goalscorers for us before being sold on, he turned Harrison from a player that supporters didn't want us to keep hold of in the Conference into a League One goalscorer being sold to a Championship club. And even Gaffney to an extent was a success for us that he signed for a pittance. Yes he's spent some of that money on 2 strikers that have (so far) been unsuccessful. But it doesn't matter who you have at the helm, if you keep selling your best players and give the manager a quarter of that money to spend, you're going to end up going backwards at some point. This. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 25, 2018 17:58:17 GMT
And everyone was please when Nichols signed at the time, from a club in the top half of L1 that had scored 15 or so that season.
Some work, some don’t. It’s a game of roulette sometimes.
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 25, 2018 19:01:29 GMT
You say this but you are only talking about the unsuccessful players that he's signed because they are the ones we have at the minute. In DC's time here he's signed Bodin and Taylor on a free who were great goalscorers for us before being sold on, he turned Harrison from a player that supporters didn't want us to keep hold of in the Conference into a League One goalscorer being sold to a Championship club. And even Gaffney to an extent was a success for us that he signed for a pittance. Yes he's spent some of that money on 2 strikers that have (so far) been unsuccessful. But it doesn't matter who you have at the helm, if you keep selling your best players and give the manager a quarter of that money to spend, you're going to end up going backwards at some point. Exactly and that’s what we’ve pretty much always done. DC broke the trend for four years which is an incredible achievement but we couldn’t seriously expect him to continue to unearth these cheap or free players and keep winning promotion , sooner or later he was going to have a season where he got it wrong or just average and we’d end up in trouble . Even the best managers have a season where they get it wrong and DC isn’t even one of the best but he is very good. I get your point and agree with a lot of your comments however there have been worrying signs for well over a year and his achillies of not getting teams ready for the season ahead leaves us desperately slow every season. This as much as the player sales leaves us prone to relegation. I keep wanting to see him change this but its been the same for five seasons. I think he put an excellent team together in non league but since then our recruitment has not been anywhere near good enough. I really do have mixed views as i want him to do well and i don’t want a Circuit manager but i really dont see him getting us out of this without a really top draw chief scout not just a mate. |
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 25, 2018 19:09:00 GMT
And everyone was please when Nichols signed at the time, from a club in the top half of L1 that had scored 15 or so that season. Some work, some don’t. It’s a game of roulette sometimes. Another issue is our treatment of loan players. They are key to low budget clubs doing well but we just dont give them game time. Telfords season was a mystery. Good will and connections with clubs in the top two divisions go a long way. |
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Post by Fetch on Nov 26, 2018 12:32:08 GMT
Totally accept the risks and our history regarding replacing managers. Whats different to the past is everyone really wants to see DC do well and it would feel terrible if he left. Rational hat on the secret to success at Rovers is recruitment as we have limited resources. What other manager at the club spent what DC has on a strike force ? Its these decisions that make and break our club. Its a tough call but im not convinced in his recruitment or how he sets us up in August and as such he may have reached his potential at our club. Would love to be wrong You say this but you are only talking about the unsuccessful players that he's signed because they are the ones we have at the minute. In DC's time here he's signed Bodin and Taylor on a free who were great goalscorers for us before being sold on, he turned Harrison from a player that supporters didn't want us to keep hold of in the Conference into a League One goalscorer being sold to a Championship club. And even Gaffney to an extent was a success for us that he signed for a pittance. Yes he's spent some of that money on 2 strikers that have (so far) been unsuccessful. But it doesn't matter who you have at the helm, if you keep selling your best players and give the manager a quarter of that money to spend, you're going to end up going backwards at some point. Fully agree with the sentiment, but didn't Hamer say on the radio (not that I have much inclination to believe him) that 100% of the money was fed back into the budget, not necessarily on fees but in wages? Rodman, Payne, Bennett, Craig, and Upson are probably on far more than Harrison, Bodin, and Taylor were. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. |
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Post by rusho'gas on Nov 26, 2018 13:26:18 GMT
Prefer the Clarke way, however am starting to gripe at the same predictable statements, honest bunch / dust ourselves down / go again etc. Saturday was good, didn't hold back and told it like it was.
Much better than the poison dwarf talking his radio friendly franchise bullsh*t for the 6 fingered inbreds.
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