Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 20:16:38 GMT
He's whinged and whinged about losing Ellis Harrison and not being able to replace his goals. He scored 12 last season. DC signed 3 strikers in the summer in Payne, Reilly and Jakubiak. If he doesn't back himself to get 4 goals each from those 3 players then he should do the right thing and walk. He's our highest paid manager ever, with the highest wage bill we've ever had. He achieved par in the conference, was exceptional in league 2 and has been bang average in league one. This year we've averaged 1.18 points per game, and over the last 46 games we've averaged 1.19 points per game. We're getting worse. That's 55 points over the last 46 games, and Oldham last year went down with 50 points, so 1.08 points per game. The margin for error now is so slim, the writing is getting more and more visible on the wall. "He achieved par in thhe conference" ?? He got us promoted man. What else was he supposed to do?!!! I think some people can't accept the fact that he didn't win 3 promotions on the bounce!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 21:20:55 GMT
Watching again - when the interviewer mentions Bonham - is that disappointment at yet another problem when he responds or well this is the situation but I’m not going to be here I’m sorry to say... these meetings can’t come quick enough for me! Good luck DC!
|
|
|
Post by lpgas on Nov 28, 2018 21:51:59 GMT
Despite what he says he will still pick Nichols as first team striker, one league goal in 53 games. Perhaps he would be better going to the National League as he scored against Barnet.
|
|
|
Post by lpgas on Nov 28, 2018 22:00:59 GMT
I posted this in another thread a few days ago, but I reckon it's just as relevant here: "Here’s my take on the current situation, for what it’s worth . . . I have followed Rovers since 1972 and I don’t think we’ve ever had a manager who “gets” us as much as DC does - possibly even including Saint Gerry and Saint Ollie . . . The bloke couldn’t be any more Gas if he’d been born in bloody Eastville, ffs! I honestly think that if you cut him, he would bleed pure blue & white just like the rest of us. He wasn’t responsible for our relegation to non-league, he just got chucked in to take the flak whilst JW legged it uostairs. But in true Gas fashion he turned it on its head and wore it as a badge of honour, getting us back up against many predictions to the contrary and likewise to Lg 1. And yes, he’s responsible for putting this group of players together and ultimately must take responsibility - as the manager - for our current predicament. But . . . What the f**k has happened to that traditional Rovers spirit, where in times of adversity we close ranks, stand with our backs to the wall, stick two fingers up, give it a chorus of Goodnight Irene and prepare to sell our lives dearly? He stuck by us when he could’ve gone elsewhere and so maybe now it’s our turn to stick by him and show the owners that despite their apparent lack of interest/backing/money/desire to succeed/ empathy for the fans, we are shoulder-to-shoulder with OUR manager and OUR team. If the players truly feel connected to us (as DC clearly is/does) then surely they would have more of an emotional stake in our survival? I don’t want to believe that they’re all heartless mercenaries . . . So let’s turn it on it’s head, like we’ve done before, give it a snarl of defiance followed by the Tote end roar and not stop fighting until it’s done. And anyone who thinks I’m just being romantic can f**k off." Now, after watching that interview, I'm more convinced than ever that we should stand behind DC - and if anything, the two fingers and the defiance should be directed towards the owners, not him. They have it within their power to help put this right, and for the sake of the club, the fans and the manager, they should do that very thing. And if they can see that we're standing foursquare behind DC rather than blaming him, because of their inaction and near-negligence, there might be a chance that they'll do the right thing to ensure our Lg 1 survival . . . Does Hamer or Wael get the players in? Do they pick the team? Do they decide the tactics? did they get Banjo Nichols in? Perhaps they just gave him a mid table budget, because on income that's what we are. Always the owners to blame. What for, NOT breaking EFL rules ? Clarke has spent the limit, which is 85% of our income. All the changes to the bars and shop was to increase his income, moaning about that are we? Or is it Clarke can do no wrong? He has a good history in non league and division 2. But in Div One he has hap ONE good season. The first. Last season when we had a million pound striker, we won four out of our last 20 games. All forgotten is it? No this season is just a continuing downwards spiral due to his poor recruitment and constant changes.
|
|
|
Post by lpgas on Nov 28, 2018 22:03:49 GMT
In all fairness to DC the players he got in in the summer I thought weren't bad players Payne and Rodman had just had a great season at Shrewsbury the left back will be a star in this league but it does baffle me why you would by an injured player who is long term. Even Ed upson had good pedigree for this division but he's been really unlucky because sometimes you will get 1 or 2 that don't work out but it's all of them. And as for the tits up stairs the sooner they move on the better. Can anyone remember the first interview Hamer made and the interviewer asked what can we expect from the Al Qadis and his reply was its something the fans can be excited about and enjoy the journey well I'm not excited or bloody enjoying it you wally. They had a good season (note ONE good season) and they had better players around them. Payne and Rodman are just journeymen, end of. Look at their history, because Clarke didn't
|
|
|
Post by lpgas on Nov 28, 2018 22:07:26 GMT
I feel like I have been had big time by the owners. Supported them 100% and thought we were on the up. The inability to carry through any of their promises, the absurd tents, the lack of communication leaves me almost speechless. I too back DC fully, he is not blame free, some of his signings have been awful & the team is lightweight and too small but he is the best man for the job. The job of what? getting strikers in ? getting some more midgets in ? or just getting some journeymen in who have just had one good season?
|
|
|
Post by lpgas on Nov 28, 2018 22:11:18 GMT
He's whinged and whinged about losing Ellis Harrison and not being able to replace his goals. He scored 12 last season. DC signed 3 strikers in the summer in Payne, Reilly and Jakubiak. If he doesn't back himself to get 4 goals each from those 3 players then he should do the right thing and walk. He's our highest paid manager ever, with the highest wage bill we've ever had. He achieved par in the conference, was exceptional in league 2 and has been bang average in league one. This year we've averaged 1.18 points per game, and over the last 46 games we've averaged 1.19 points per game. We're getting worse. That's 55 points over the last 46 games, and Oldham last year went down with 50 points, so 1.08 points per game. The margin for error now is so slim, the writing is getting more and more visible on the wall. Not just Ellis, Taylor and Bodin too. Not all in one season though. He brought in Nichols as Taylors replacement, and Payne as Harrisons replacement. what he should have done was kept hold of Gaffney. not great but better than Payne. Gaffney said he wanted more game time. We will be facing him next season
|
|
|
Post by lpgas on Nov 28, 2018 22:16:07 GMT
He's whinged and whinged about losing Ellis Harrison and not being able to replace his goals. He scored 12 last season. DC signed 3 strikers in the summer in Payne, Reilly and Jakubiak. If he doesn't back himself to get 4 goals each from those 3 players then he should do the right thing and walk. He's our highest paid manager ever, with the highest wage bill we've ever had. He achieved par in the conference, was exceptional in league 2 and has been bang average in league one. This year we've averaged 1.18 points per game, and over the last 46 games we've averaged 1.19 points per game. We're getting worse. That's 55 points over the last 46 games, and Oldham last year went down with 50 points, so 1.08 points per game. The margin for error now is so slim, the writing is getting more and more visible on the wall. Not just Ellis, Taylor and Bodin too. Not only that he has more resources than any previous manager has ever had. Fantastic pitch, Development squad, Under 21, under 18 and so on, and a coach for everything except having a crap. We are losing £1.5 million a year. He has spunked £550k on Nichols and Payne. I fail to see how anyone else is to blame. Although Stewart recommended Nichols, that says to me that they are equally to blame
|
|
|
Post by Jomo on Nov 28, 2018 22:30:22 GMT
Not just Ellis, Taylor and Bodin too. Not only that he has more resources than any previous manager has ever had. Fantastic pitch, Development squad, Under 21, under 18 and so on, and a coach for everything except having a crap. We are losing £1.5 million a year. He has spunked £550k on Nichols and Payne. I fail to see how anyone else is to blame. Although Stewart recommended Nichols, that says to me that they are equally to blame I don't disagree that he has more resources available than any previous manager has had, however it's still not enough to keep us competitive at the business end of this league. It's the fact that he was misled into signing a 5 year contract on the basis of significant improvements to infrastructure, which has not even gotten the slightest bit off the ground in the last 18 months, and there's no sign of that changing any time soon. Is it any wonder that morale is down at the club? We could have been making strides to seriously improve our standing as a club. This is what the owners led DC and us fans to believe was around the corner. It isn't, they've failed. Of course DC has made mistakes and of course the owners haven't been a total car crash. Nevertheless, DC needs to stay in my book, and the owners if they do stay have to do much much better, and the first thing they need to do is provide honest assurances to DC, and provide a plan/vision moving forward. This is the minimum requirement.
|
|
|
Post by lpgas on Nov 28, 2018 22:35:25 GMT
Not only that he has more resources than any previous manager has ever had. Fantastic pitch, Development squad, Under 21, under 18 and so on, and a coach for everything except having a crap. We are losing £1.5 million a year. He has spunked £550k on Nichols and Payne. I fail to see how anyone else is to blame. Although Stewart recommended Nichols, that says to me that they are equally to blame I don't disagree that he has more resources available than any previous manager has had, however it's still not enough to keep us competitive at the business end of this league. It's the fact that he was misled into signing a 5 year contract on the basis of significant improvements to infrastructure, which has not even gotten the slightest bit off the ground in the last 18 months, and there's no sign of that changing any time soon. Is it any wonder that morale is down at the club? We could have been making strides to seriously improve our standing as a club. This is what the owners led DC and us fans to believe was around the corner. It isn't, they've failed. Of course DC has made mistakes and of course the owners haven't been a total car crash. Nevertheless, DC needs to stay in my book, and the owners if they do stay have to do much much better, and the first thing they need to do is provide honest assurances to DC, and provide a plan/vision moving forward. This is the minimum requirement. I cannot say footy managers are misled in to a 5 year deal. Most would cut their right arm off for one
|
|
|
Post by Jomo on Nov 28, 2018 22:38:02 GMT
I don't disagree that he has more resources available than any previous manager has had, however it's still not enough to keep us competitive at the business end of this league. It's the fact that he was misled into signing a 5 year contract on the basis of significant improvements to infrastructure, which has not even gotten the slightest bit off the ground in the last 18 months, and there's no sign of that changing any time soon. Is it any wonder that morale is down at the club? We could have been making strides to seriously improve our standing as a club. This is what the owners led DC and us fans to believe was around the corner. It isn't, they've failed. Of course DC has made mistakes and of course the owners haven't been a total car crash. Nevertheless, DC needs to stay in my book, and the owners if they do stay have to do much much better, and the first thing they need to do is provide honest assurances to DC, and provide a plan/vision moving forward. This is the minimum requirement. I cannot say footy managers are misled in to a 5 year deal. Most would cut their right arm off for one He could have joined Leeds United, one of the biggest clubs in the country. He signed a new contract with us based on assurances that he was given by the owners, including training ground and stadium. My suspicion is that they never had the funding to make these projects happen, despite stating early on that funding was not dependent on the Sainsburys case.
|
|
pirate
Forum Legend
Posts: 18,854
|
Post by pirate on Nov 28, 2018 22:40:14 GMT
Not just Ellis, Taylor and Bodin too. Not only that he has more resources than any previous manager has ever had. Fantastic pitch, Development squad, Under 21, under 18 and so on, and a coach for everything except having a crap. We are losing £1.5 million a year. He has spunked £550k on Nichols and Payne. I fail to see how anyone else is to blame. Although Stewart recommended Nichols, that says to me that they are equally to blame A development squad earning peanuts and a fantastic pitch probably partly paid for by the £1.5m sale of our best playing assets.
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Nov 28, 2018 23:12:46 GMT
Not just Ellis, Taylor and Bodin too. Not all in one season though. He brought in Nichols as Taylors replacement, and Payne as Harrisons replacement. what he should have done was kept hold of Gaffney. not great but better than Payne. Gaffney said he wanted more game time. We will be facing him next season Gaffney was utter garbage towards the end of last season, it was right to release but it seems DC had no money given to him to fund his replacement, so made do with a free transfer and a loanee. Meanwhile the owners banked the £50K/£100K transfer fee.
|
|
|
Post by RD on Nov 29, 2018 6:33:40 GMT
Honestly don't know how anybody could watch that interview and not think he's the right man for the job.
Honest, passionate - a total and utter legend.
If he goes, we're f**ked; definitely down and probably heading to non-league with the current owners.
DC needs our support now more than ever.
|
|
|
Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 29, 2018 6:41:53 GMT
DC said exactly what's been on my mind for months in that interview. This fanbase should be in open warfare with the bullshitting Al-Qadi's but as usual we roll over to be tickled..... and can you give us an insight to how we are going to be in "Open Warfare" with the family Do we have to employ Nobby to put us through Boot camp with his deep military service experience ? Would you like me to do some cyber war with my vast computer experience ?
|
|
|
Post by Gasshole on Nov 29, 2018 7:41:33 GMT
DC said exactly what's been on my mind for months in that interview. This fanbase should be in open warfare with the bullshitting Al-Qadi's but as usual we roll over to be tickled..... and can you give us an insight to how we are going to be in "Open Warfare" with the family Do we have to employ Nobby to put us through Boot camp with his deep military service experience ? Would you like me to do some cyber war with my vast computer experience ? I’ve seen a fair bit of conflict serving in the Legion. Usually on Skittles night. Im all about the tickle now
|
|
Marshy
Proper Gas
Posts: 14,134
|
Post by Marshy on Nov 29, 2018 8:20:25 GMT
DC said exactly what's been on my mind for months in that interview. This fanbase should be in open warfare with the bullshitting Al-Qadi's but as usual we roll over to be tickled..... and can you give us an insight to how we are going to be in "Open Warfare" with the family Do we have to employ Nobby to put us through Boot camp with his deep military service experience ? Would you like me to do some cyber war with my vast computer experience ? Don’t be ridiculous, just sh** in their wives handbags.
|
|
|
Post by faggotygas on Nov 29, 2018 9:40:01 GMT
Not just Ellis, Taylor and Bodin too. Not only that he has more resources than any previous manager has ever had. Fantastic pitch, Development squad, Under 21, under 18 and so on, and a coach for everything except having a crap. We are losing £1.5 million a year. He has spunked £550k on Nichols and Payne. I fail to see how anyone else is to blame. Although Stewart recommended Nichols, that says to me that they are equally to blame Comparing our current resources with our resources in the past makes no difference. Our competition in the league is not our former selves, it's the other clubs in the league.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 10:33:30 GMT
.... and can you give us an insight to how we are going to be in "Open Warfare" with the family Do we have to employ Nobby to put us through Boot camp with his deep military service experience ? Would you like me to do some cyber war with my vast computer experience ? Don’t be ridiculous, just sh** in their wives handbags. Brutal.
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Nov 29, 2018 11:02:09 GMT
Not only that he has more resources than any previous manager has ever had. Fantastic pitch, Development squad, Under 21, under 18 and so on, and a coach for everything except having a crap. We are losing £1.5 million a year. He has spunked £550k on Nichols and Payne. I fail to see how anyone else is to blame. Although Stewart recommended Nichols, that says to me that they are equally to blame Comparing our current resources with our resources in the past makes no difference. Our competition in the league is not our former selves, it's the other clubs in the league. But even DC suggests our wage budget is around 16th(?) not bottom 4, so he could well have spent more than say Walsall's manager this summer on transfer fees and wages?
|
|