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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 23, 2018 11:45:23 GMT
" Whilst it is not possible to share all details due to confidentiality arrangements" Where have I heard that before? The word ‘all’ is a bit patronising, “any” is the word they needed. They might not be allowed to say the location etc, but can say it fell through, like they have.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 23, 2018 11:50:53 GMT
I simply don’t believe a word that anyone from the club says. I’m not moaning about the statement , I simply think the lot of them are full of sh** and I don’t think they’ve been pursuing anything , I think this statement is to take some heat off the owners and buy them a little more time, like I’ve said for a while , I have no trust in the board whatsoever. One false dawn after another , if they really were astute businessmen with plans to progress our facilities and really had the funds available we would of seen something positive in regards to our new ground , revamped mem or training ground by now. Well we will find out when the accounts are published, so they can't hide stuff forever. They wrote of over a million in the last accounts, so they were trying to get Uwe done then. So if similar happens over the next few years, we will know they were telling the truth. I've said all along anything could be happening, we just don't know. Although loads make out they do.
"we just don't know. Although loads make out they do."
Really!!! First I've heard of this..... They're all ITK don't you know....?
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Post by oldsage on Dec 23, 2018 11:50:56 GMT
Wanted. The pair of rose coloured glasses that DC threw away just before he quit. I think he probably threw them at our magnificent screen which is clearly broken.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 23, 2018 11:51:53 GMT
The word ‘all’ is a bit patronising, “any” is the word they needed. They might not be allowed to say the location etc, but can say it fell through, like they have. But what good does it serve when it's impossible to know if they've simply made it up or not? If it is true what's wrong with the owners if they can't agree deals with local land owners etc if two deals have now fallen though. Plus why did Wael suggest the Mem was going to be redeveloped when the UWE deal fell though, when that doesn't seem to have ever been the case.
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Post by baggins on Dec 23, 2018 11:56:48 GMT
" Whilst it is not possible to share all details due to confidentiality arrangements" Where have I heard that before? Can't say. Secret.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 23, 2018 12:00:50 GMT
Is this the truth or are the owners buying time to appease the fans ? This is the big question, isn't it? The thing is, if it is the truth, then everything else that has happened over the last two years makes complete sense. If it's not true, then their entire ownership doesn't make sense, their plans don't make sense, the Colony issue doesn't make sense, their continued ownership doesn't seem to make sense. Their buying time for what? that doesn't make sense, either. Appreciate you find my posts tiresome but here goes. What really matters here, us working out whether they have good intentions or not (As seems to be the case) or them actually delivering something? This, if true, is another failed attempt.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 12:04:43 GMT
A nothing statement as far as I am concerned. Telling us some unnamed site has fallen through and yet again hiding behind confidentiality agreements. Just more delaying tactics and hoping to keep us quiet for another six months or so. I wonder what happened to the redevelopment of the Mem, or has that now been conveniently forgotton?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 12:08:09 GMT
A nothing statement as far as I am concerned. Telling us some unnamed site has fallen through and yet again hiding behind confidentiality agreements. Just more delaying tactics and hoping to keep us quiet for another six months or so. I wonder what happened to the redevelopment of the Mem, or has that now been conveniently forgotton? Maybe the redevelopment of the mem was what fell through. They put up another tent and realised they didn't have enough money to finish the rest
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Post by gashead333 on Dec 23, 2018 12:10:41 GMT
Be interesting to see if in the next few weeks/months any non stadium plans for either Uwe land, civil service land or brabazon hangar land.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 23, 2018 12:12:38 GMT
After giving this some thought, and assuming it's true, then was it the Civil Service land we attempted to buy as apart from the Filton Airport land, it must be the only plot of land locally where we could fit both a stadium and a training ground?
What's Knowall got to say about this given he was promising good news around this time of the year, was the good news supposed to be stadium related?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 23, 2018 12:15:46 GMT
After giving this some thought, and assuming it's true, then was it the Civil Service land we attempted to buy as apart from the Filton Airport land, it must be the only plot of land locally where we could fit both a stadium and a training ground? What's Knowall got to say about this given he was promising good news around this time of the year, was the good news supposed to be stadium related? could be that. Didn't even reach planning permission phase though eh so priced out I expect.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 23, 2018 12:16:40 GMT
Have merged all three threads that were started at the same time, into one thread on the subject. It might read a bit confusingly. AF Yes, good idea.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Dec 23, 2018 12:20:30 GMT
After giving this some thought, and assuming it's true, then was it the Civil Service land we attempted to buy as apart from the Filton Airport land, it must be the only plot of land locally where we could fit both a stadium and a training ground? What's Knowall got to say about this given he was promising good news around this time of the year, was the good news supposed to be stadium related?
No-no, Knowall has gone from Christmas to the new year now, but when in the new year who knows? Does knowall.....?
All this after we had been taken over in October, after the paperwork had been signed in August.......
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 23, 2018 12:24:44 GMT
Of course they could be lying but I do wonder if they're actually being honest - if they are it's possibly good (or bad in some ways) as it would show at least that they are genuinely trying to move the club forward (which I didn't think they were) - just obviously dissapointing that whatever it was seems to have fallen through. So yes, a bit dissapointing but - oddly enough - I actually feel slightly more positive following that statement.
Fingers crossed. Yes I agree. From that statement it appears they have been working on something for a few months and it’s now finally broken down. Disappointing but at least they have told us. Some won’t believe them and others will but in the end it is whatever it is and now move on. To me it just confirms that these owners will not be issueing statements or regular updates until something firm has been agree/signed or planned. It will lead to long periods with not much news. I even wonder if the Chairman or CEO are even in on it or do they know as little as the fans. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 12:25:25 GMT
After giving this some thought, and assuming it's true, then was it the Civil Service land we attempted to buy as apart from the Filton Airport land, it must be the only plot of land locally where we could fit both a stadium and a training ground? What's Knowall got to say about this given he was promising good news around this time of the year, was the good news supposed to be stadium related? could be that. Didn't even reach planning permission phase though eh so priced out I expect. The richest owners in football priced out again?! Blimey, they really are to stadium development what Long John Silver was to tap dancing.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 23, 2018 12:25:37 GMT
This is the big question, isn't it? The thing is, if it is the truth, then everything else that has happened over the last two years makes complete sense. If it's not true, then their entire ownership doesn't make sense, their plans don't make sense, the Colony issue doesn't make sense, their continued ownership doesn't seem to make sense. Their buying time for what? that doesn't make sense, either. Appreciate you find my posts tiresome but here goes. What really matters here, us working out whether they have good intentions or not (As seems to be the case) or them actually delivering something? This, if true, is another failed attempt. I don't find your posts tiresome. I dunno, for me this potentially makes sense of the delays to the Colony, so it seems to point more to their good intentions.
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 23, 2018 12:26:11 GMT
They might not be allowed to say the location etc, but can say it fell through, like they have. But what good does it serve when it's impossible to know if they've simply made it up or not? If it is true what's wrong with the owners if they can't agree deals with local land owners etc if two deals have now fallen though. Plus why did Wael suggest the Mem was going to be redeveloped when the UWE deal fell though, when that doesn't seem to have ever been the case. They looked into it, they held a meeting with local residents and businesses to see what they could do with the mem. If the statement is true, it would make sense to look into all options though wouldn't it?? If a site was big enough for both and better for the club, would you not try to do that, before a mem refurbishment?? I think they have been looking into our options, but that is just my opinion. Can't see why else we have so many backroom staff etc. We know they wrote of over a million in the last accounts to do with Uwe. Will this year's show the same, to do with other projects?? Accounts will show us whether they have been working on stuff, or doing nothing.
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Post by aforce on Dec 23, 2018 12:29:08 GMT
Waek said on record there is a plan b,c,d and e etc but it seems to me that they are stumped again
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Post by stuart1974 on Dec 23, 2018 12:33:35 GMT
The company I work for uses Non Disclosure Agreements so while it is frustrating not knowing for sure, they do restrict what can be said in public.
Besides, who would want to deal with people who blab if they don't get their own way? It would deter a lot of people from even entering talks.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 12:34:25 GMT
What if it was the Brabazon Hanger site? As there is still ongoing discussions about where the venue for Bristol is going to be and if it's here or Temple Meads and as the council have objected etc maybe theven council have said a final no to any sports stadium sharing land there as they want it to be sole venture? Would make sense as to why they can't name the location as that would mean it could influence the outcome of the council votes etc?
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