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Post by Gashead51 on Jan 3, 2019 14:46:50 GMT
BBC Football report Jaydon Stockley gone to Preston on 3 1/2 year deal, fee of 750k. Exeter are reported to have received in excess of 6m in transfer fees over the last 4 years. How will we ever compete with that ?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 3, 2019 14:48:06 GMT
BBC Football report Jaydon Stockley gone to Preston on 3 1/2 year deal, fee of 750k. Exeter are reported to have received in excess of 6m in transfer fees over the last 4 years. How will we ever compete with that ? We're not. Why are we comparing ourselves to a championship team who finished just below the playoffs last season though?
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Post by daniel300380 on Jan 3, 2019 14:49:01 GMT
BBC Football report Jaydon Stockley gone to Preston on 3 1/2 year deal, fee of 750k. Exeter are reported to have received in excess of 6m in transfer fees over the last 4 years. How will we ever compete with that ? Can't compete now. If we would have bid the £750,000 in the summer though, we might have got him before Championship clubs came knocking.
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Post by Gashead51 on Jan 3, 2019 14:54:01 GMT
BBC Football report Jaydon Stockley gone to Preston on 3 1/2 year deal, fee of 750k. Exeter are reported to have received in excess of 6m in transfer fees over the last 4 years. How will we ever compete with that ? We're not. Why are we comparing ourselves to a championship team who finished just below the playoffs last season though? My point is merely that Exeter have developed players and received fair value.
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Post by Gashead51 on Jan 3, 2019 14:56:10 GMT
BBC Football report Jaydon Stockley gone to Preston on 3 1/2 year deal, fee of 750k. Exeter are reported to have received in excess of 6m in transfer fees over the last 4 years. How will we ever compete with that ? Can't compete now. If we would have bid the £750,000 in the summer though, we might have got him before Championship clubs came knocking. Ageed
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Post by paulpirate on Jan 3, 2019 14:56:41 GMT
We're not. Why are we comparing ourselves to a championship team who finished just below the playoffs last season though? My point is merely that Exeter have developed players and received fair value. they should be in l1 then really if they reinvested right
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Post by axegas on Jan 3, 2019 15:24:15 GMT
We received £750k for a striker who came from our academy over the summer its worth saying.
Obviously that doesn't compete with Exeter and their great academy but they are a bit an exception, most L1 and L2 clubs have made far less.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 3, 2019 15:32:20 GMT
I don't think we've received a fair price for our top players since Lambert.
I said it after Lee Brown left for free & got slated for it but I've seen a few posts that started turning since, but for some reason we've been poor at managing the contracts of our players for the last few years. Not sure if it is at board level or management. But some of the players we've let go at a fraction of their cost is a day light robbery.
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Post by bluegas on Jan 3, 2019 15:59:59 GMT
We're not. Why are we comparing ourselves to a championship team who finished just below the playoffs last season though? My point is merely that Exeter have developed players and received fair value. With respect, I believe Stockley started with Bournemouth & Exeter got him from Aberdeen. They don't seem to have done much developing with him. Good business though.
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Post by Gashead51 on Jan 3, 2019 16:04:09 GMT
My point is merely that Exeter have developed players and received fair value. With respect, I believe Stockley started with Bournemouth & Exeter got him from Aberdeen. They don't seem to have done much developing with him. Good business though. Fair enough, I concede. Maybe all I should have said is that they are doing better business.
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Post by axegas on Jan 3, 2019 16:12:27 GMT
I don't think we've received a fair price for our top players since Lambert. I said it after Lee Brown left for free & got slated for it but I've seen a few posts that started turning since, but for some reason we've been poor at managing the contracts of our players for the last few years. Not sure if it is at board level or management. But some of the players we've let go at a fraction of their cost is a day light robbery. It's to do with the length of contract that we have been giving our players, under DC we have been offering 2 year contracts out which means that if the player does well in the first year of his contract, we then have to offer them a new contract in the second year of the original contract when their stock is high and that gives the player time to shop around and have the upper hand in negotiations and if these do not work, we are forced sell with 6 months left on their contract which means we get a fraction of their true value. Peterborough and a lot of other clubs give 3 or 4 year contracts to players they believe will command value in the future and also add extension clauses in. This means when they have a good season, the club's are not forced into to selling them which means they can set big valuations on the player and have them for longer. There is benefit to having shorter contracts as it keeps every player on their toes and fighting to earn a new contract, which is probably a good thing for a squad as a whole and it also means that clubs can easily get underperforming players off their wage bill as they won't be tied into 4 years contracts (imagine if Nichols and Payne had 4 year contracts on good money but didn't want to leave) however I've always argued that if you think a player will have value down the line ie they are young and performing to a high standard or they come with an impressive reputation, I would rather the player was given a 3 or 4 year contract so we could properly reap the reward of having good players representing our club later on.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 3, 2019 16:23:28 GMT
Out of interest apart form Locks who are these young players we we need to tie down to long contracts? Fans were even questioning if we should offer Harrison any type of contract the summer before last let alone a 3 or 4 year one!
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Post by chilly1883 on Jan 3, 2019 16:27:57 GMT
I don't think we've received a fair price for our top players since Lambert. I said it after Lee Brown left for free & got slated for it but I've seen a few posts that started turning since, but for some reason we've been poor at managing the contracts of our players for the last few years. Not sure if it is at board level or management. But some of the players we've let go at a fraction of their cost is a day light robbery. Even the lambert fee was awful, he was easily worth double that, at the least. We received 2 million for Gareth Taylor, ten years previous. Barry Hayles, last player to get a decent fee for.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 3, 2019 16:31:14 GMT
I don't think we've received a fair price for our top players since Lambert. I said it after Lee Brown left for free & got slated for it but I've seen a few posts that started turning since, but for some reason we've been poor at managing the contracts of our players for the last few years. Not sure if it is at board level or management. But some of the players we've let go at a fraction of their cost is a day light robbery. Even the lambert fee was awful, he was easily worth double that, at the least. We received 2 million for Gareth Taylor, ten years previous. Barry Hayles, last player to get a decent fee for. Lambert went for about 1.5m in the end I believe? In that market, I think that was a fair price. We could all see he'd be a good Championship goalscorer - just who knew that 3 years later he'd be top English scorer in the Prem & in the World Cup squad in Brazil?!
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Post by axegas on Jan 3, 2019 16:33:24 GMT
Out of interest apart form Locks who are these young players we we need to tie down to long contracts? Fans were even questioning if we should offer Harrison any type of contract the summer before last let alone a 3 or 4 year one! You can't just say "apart" to exclude the person that I was referring to. My point being that in the FUTURE, if we signed or possessed a talented 18-25 year old who we thought was going to be worth something in the future, I wouldn't be opposed to breaking this 2 year contract thing that we have had at the club for a while now and offering a 3 or 4 year deal. And to answer your point about Harrison, most of us would have gladly offered him a long term contract in the summer before last as he had a lot of potential and we all knew he was capable of scoring goals.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 16:34:17 GMT
BBC Football report Jaydon Stockley gone to Preston on 3 1/2 year deal, fee of 750k. Exeter are reported to have received in excess of 6m in transfer fees over the last 4 years. How will we ever compete with that ? Can't compete now. If we would have bid the £750,000 in the summer though, we might have got him before Championship clubs came knocking. A) He probably wouldn't have come B) The idea that a low/mid table L1 club losing millions each year would pay that kind of money for a single player is quite ridiculous. Never was or is likely to happen. Be realistic people.
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Post by markczgas on Jan 3, 2019 17:09:47 GMT
I don't think we've received a fair price for our top players since Lambert. I said it after Lee Brown left for free & got slated for it but I've seen a few posts that started turning since, but for some reason we've been poor at managing the contracts of our players for the last few years. Not sure if it is at board level or management. But some of the players we've let go at a fraction of their cost is a day light robbery. Lee Brown a great servant for Gas but he was Jo average in L1 for previous 2 seasons. Suddenly, Portsmouth are top and loads on here are writing what a brilliant player he is !??
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Post by markczgas on Jan 3, 2019 17:12:31 GMT
Can't compete now. If we would have bid the £750,000 in the summer though, we might have got him before Championship clubs came knocking. A) He probably wouldn't have come B) The idea that a low/mid table L1 club losing millions each year would pay that kind of money for a single player is quite ridiculous. Never was or is likely to happen. Be realistic people. Agreed. Would only happen if we sold for similar, e.g. Sercombe. He's the only one I'd extend on a 2 year contract. Rovers are wise to only give short contracts while we lose money each season.
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Post by axegas on Jan 3, 2019 17:12:35 GMT
I don't think we've received a fair price for our top players since Lambert. I said it after Lee Brown left for free & got slated for it but I've seen a few posts that started turning since, but for some reason we've been poor at managing the contracts of our players for the last few years. Not sure if it is at board level or management. But some of the players we've let go at a fraction of their cost is a day light robbery. Lee Brown a great servant for Gas but he was Jo average in L1 for previous 2 seasons. Suddenly, Portsmouth are top and loads on here are writing what a brilliant player he is !?? The fact that he was so average was the reason we really miss him. He had that consistency that none of our other fullbacks have had, Kelly has been decent but in truth we have struggled to replace him. On of those scenarios where we didn't truly realise how important he was to the team until he was gone.
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Post by markczgas on Jan 3, 2019 17:20:44 GMT
Lee Brown a great servant for Gas but he was Jo average in L1 for previous 2 seasons. Suddenly, Portsmouth are top and loads on here are writing what a brilliant player he is !?? The fact that he was so average was the reason we really miss him. He had that consistency that none of our other fullbacks have had, Kelly has been decent but in truth we have struggled to replace him. On of those scenarios where we didn't truly realise how important he was to the team until he was gone. Do you remember that he was getting dropped too ? Check back on his appearances - he lost his place to Bola. Not saying Bola is good cos he isn't but I think it's easy to forget and think oh Browner's now at high-riding Pompey we've balled up there. Many fans around me on East terrace could see he was struggling defensively and supporting attacks ( who knows maybe it was a motivational thing and he needed a new challenge) even when we were doing ok in the league.
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