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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 1, 2019 16:08:11 GMT
Yeah. If you're very highly rated at a top-half League 1 club, you're not very likely to join a relegation-threatened League 1 team. People saying GC, etc, should use their knowledge of the division to land us players, but if they bring in anyone who isn't obviously better than we should get according to Wiki, then they doubt they are a good buy. Istm people want us to bring in players that everyone knows are obviously too good for us that we couldn't afford anyway. Our current situation is the equivalent of a ball sitting up just right, waiting to be smacked into the top corner by the board. Make a statement of intent by signing a goalscoring striker and show the fans you won't get relegated quietly. Instead of smacking it into the top corner, they waited for it to come down and passed it back to the keeper. As a result some are now feeling even more let down and disappointed on top of the stadium and training ground fiascos, Hamer interviews and promises of evolution etc. As it stands all the work Higgs and DC did to put a stadium deal in place and get promotion to league one is being dismantled with expert precision (DC played a part in that to be fair). It should be unacceptable to have gone so far backwards from that day against Dagenham and Redbridge. Unacceptable. But to some it is very acceptable and it makes me sad really. Very sad indeed. It's not about what's acceptable coz you don't have any choice of whether to accept it or not. Whining on the internet is not not accepting it, it's just whining. You're not better than people who don't whine. I realise you think you are. I know you think you are doing more for the club than those who don't whine. But you're really not. You're just whining. You don't have to be sad that some people aren't whining, because they are not making the club worse by not whining. It really is just whining. It's not a magic spell that makes good things happen.
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Post by pirate on Feb 1, 2019 16:15:32 GMT
Bodin was rated quite highly at most of his former clubs, his problem was staying injury free. Taylor was rated highly too. Also, if you think Payne "scored well" by scoring 9 league goals from open last season for Shrewsbury then I would respectfully suggest you set your standards a little higher. His overall record of 15 goals from 71 games in League One is abysmal and Clarke-Harris' record of 17 goals in 111 League One games is even worse. Taylor was let go by FGR on a free and we signed him in the Conference who actually highly rated him apart from the manager at his last club, Chester, before he joined us? Likewise Bodin was shown the door by Northampton in May after joining them in the January before he had a trial with us in the summer, from memory he was even poor for us for a few months. if JCH can actually hold the ball up front and win a few headers in the box then he'll do a damn sight better than Payne ever managed for Rovers, even with him in the squad we're only 3 pts adrift of safety. Taylor was offered a new contract by Ady Pennock at Forest Green but chose to join us. Bodin was released from his short term contract at Northampton because of doubts about his fitness, not his ability. Wilder liked him and so did his assistant Alan Knill who worked with him at both Swindon and Torquay.
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Post by chilly1883 on Feb 1, 2019 16:20:32 GMT
I like the look of this new striker, scores all sorts of goals, has a sweet left foot. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 16:26:23 GMT
Looks like a real asset.High hopes of this turning into an inspired signing,if not,we will be relegated.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 16:56:53 GMT
Our current situation is the equivalent of a ball sitting up just right, waiting to be smacked into the top corner by the board. Make a statement of intent by signing a goalscoring striker and show the fans you won't get relegated quietly. Instead of smacking it into the top corner, they waited for it to come down and passed it back to the keeper. As a result some are now feeling even more let down and disappointed on top of the stadium and training ground fiascos, Hamer interviews and promises of evolution etc. As it stands all the work Higgs and DC did to put a stadium deal in place and get promotion to league one is being dismantled with expert precision (DC played a part in that to be fair). It should be unacceptable to have gone so far backwards from that day against Dagenham and Redbridge. Unacceptable. But to some it is very acceptable and it makes me sad really. Very sad indeed. It's not about what's acceptable coz you don't have any choice of whether to accept it or not. Whining on the internet is not not accepting it, it's just whining. You're not better than people who don't whine. I realise you think you are. I know you think you are doing more for the club than those who don't whine. But you're really not. You're just whining. You don't have to be sad that some people aren't whining, because they are not making the club worse by not whining. It really is just whining. It's not a magic spell that makes good things happen. You can debate what the definition of accepting the situation is but one thing that is incontrovertible is that we have a choice how we react and I would gladly rather whine and have the tag of a whiner than meekly be one of the sheep who laps up Wael and his empty missives whilst we head for relegation with barely a whimper. Does that solve anything? Only in as much as I can at least say I wasn't happy about it and said as much and illustrated my argument each time rather than just posting "Hurr durr, I'm annoyed" ad nauseum. That will have to do because despite all that has happened there still seems to be what I would call a rich seam of support for the current regime. I don't even begin to understand it and probably never will, but I respect their right to an opinion and would never tell them they can't express it- which doesn't seem to cut the other way unfortunately.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 1, 2019 17:00:02 GMT
It's not about what's acceptable coz you don't have any choice of whether to accept it or not. Whining on the internet is not not accepting it, it's just whining. You're not better than people who don't whine. I realise you think you are. I know you think you are doing more for the club than those who don't whine. But you're really not. You're just whining. You don't have to be sad that some people aren't whining, because they are not making the club worse by not whining. It really is just whining. It's not a magic spell that makes good things happen. You can debate what the definition of accepting the situation is but one thing that is incontrovertible is that we have a choice how we react and I would gladly rather whine and have the tag of a whiner than meekly be one of the sheep who laps up Wael and his empty missives whilst we head for relegation with barely a whimper. Does that solve anything? Only in as much as I can at least say I wasn't happy about it and said as much and illustrated my argument each time rather than just posting "Hurr durr, I'm annoyed" ad nauseum. That will have to do because despite all that has happened there still seems to be what I would call a rich seam of support for the current regime. I don't even begin to understand it and probably never will, but I respect their right to an opinion and would never tell them they can't express it- which doesn't seem to cut the other way unfortunately. I don't think hardly anyone's really supporting the regime. I think they're just not complaining about it, or they're just defending it against plainly wrong accusations. Eg, I don't really think the regime is doing much good. But if someone says they haven't spent any money, that's just plainly wrong. I don't think they'll be increasingly the yearly spend much, but if someone says they'll be slashing the budget by £1M, that figure's plainly just pulled out of the air.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Feb 1, 2019 17:01:47 GMT
Haha this is where we see everyone turn from fuming about not signing anyone, to fuming about who we’ve signed before they’ve even seen him play. Seems reasonable, the player cannot help it if he has a **** goal scoring record; however, we need somebody who can keep us up, like a Andy Rammell, no wonder after being told players out (who were on a bid wages) = players in, we could have expected somebody better JCH.
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Post by curlywurly on Feb 1, 2019 17:15:31 GMT
Haha this is where we see everyone turn from fuming about not signing anyone, to fuming about who we’ve signed before they’ve even seen him play. Seems reasonable, the player cannot help it if he has a **** goal scoring record; however, we need somebody who can keep us up, like a Andy Rammell, no wonder after being told players out (who were on a bid wages) = players in, we could have expected somebody better JCH. How the F' do you know. Tell us how many times you have seen him play in the flesh?
For god sake watch the guy play for us and then make up your mind.
Welcome to the club JCH. Please ignore nonsense like this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 17:18:16 GMT
Haha this is where we see everyone turn from fuming about not signing anyone, to fuming about who we’ve signed before they’ve even seen him play. Seems reasonable, the player cannot help it if he has a **** goal scoring record; however, we need somebody who can keep us up, like a Andy Rammell, no wonder after being told players out (who were on a bid wages) = players in, we could have expected somebody better JCH. How many goals did AR score for us?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 17:28:44 GMT
Seems reasonable, the player cannot help it if he has a **** goal scoring record; however, we need somebody who can keep us up, like a Andy Rammell, no wonder after being told players out (who were on a bid wages) = players in, we could have expected somebody better JCH. How many goals did AR score for us? Six goals in twelve games.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 1, 2019 17:57:16 GMT
Only scored 4 all season at Wycombe before we signed him, I bet the same posters would have been slagging him off about his scoring record before they say him play if forums had been around at the time. bristolrovers.wikia.com/wiki/Andy_Rammell
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Post by pirate on Feb 1, 2019 18:25:57 GMT
Only scored 4 all season at Wycombe before we signed him, I bet the same posters would have been slagging him off about his scoring record before they say him play if forums had been around at the time. bristolrovers.wikia.com/wiki/Andy_Rammell4 goals from 17 starts at a higher level and the previous season to that he scored 13 goals at a higher level. I doubt anyone would have been slagging him off for that type of record actually.
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Post by wallywalters on Feb 1, 2019 18:43:25 GMT
I can't remember rammell playing for us the following season as that page says for 5 games. Why did we get rid? I've forgot.
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Post by pirate on Feb 1, 2019 18:50:47 GMT
I can't remember rammell playing for us the following season as that page says for 5 games. Why did we get rid? I've forgot. He was 37-years-old and had problems with his knees.
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Post by wallywalters on Feb 1, 2019 19:29:01 GMT
Ah right cheers yeah I vaguely remember now.
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Post by helpliner on Feb 1, 2019 19:57:48 GMT
Apparently according to the Coventry manager on a radio phone in tonight we made an offer to the player that Coventry couldn't match!!!! It seems the manager was not happy about losing him.
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 1, 2019 20:20:44 GMT
Apparently according to the Coventry manager on a radio phone in tonight we made an offer to the player that Coventry couldn't match!!!! It seems the manager was not happy about losing him. Find that unbelievable as they sold mcnulty for loads of money, taken from the managers quote book to save face , their fans are undecided unlike us with Payne.
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Post by chilly1883 on Feb 1, 2019 20:40:52 GMT
Goal scoring records at previous clubs mean f**k all, if this lad comes in at hits the ground running, who knows how good he could become? Plenty of very good players have moved to clubs, and for whatever reason, it just hasn’t happened. I’m 🙏
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Feb 1, 2019 20:48:59 GMT
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Post by pirate on Feb 1, 2019 21:02:19 GMT
I'm sure they were. This bit was interesting... Mark Robins: “I couldn’t stand in Jonno’s way either because of the contract that he’s earned, which is outstanding for him and allows him to develop his life off the field as well,” he said. “It’s a deal that sets him up. “The players that have gone haven’t been in the team of late and it just became clear that they would need to play and the window presented us with opportunities to move on and we’re left with the players that we have.”
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