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Post by markczgas on Feb 7, 2019 9:28:07 GMT
Despite our horrific home form this season and the lack of goals our ave attendance is till above 8,000. I think it was a little under 9K las t season. But with improved form and some big games/teams to come we should see that go up quite a bit by the end of the season ?
Luton and Sunderland should sell out their end when they come.
1 Sunderland 32,017 2 Portsmouth 18,282 3 Bradford 16,105 4 Barnsley 12,113 5 Coventry City 11,620 6 Charlton 11,044 7 Plymouth 9,335 8 Luton Town 9,257 9 Bristol Rovers 8,023 10 Doncaster 7,687
Plymouth's and Bradford's crowds also good considering.
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Post by markczgas on Feb 7, 2019 9:43:31 GMT
City's average is .......... 20,817. Sorry to drop that in Sunderland's would be 3rd highest in the Champ, only behind Villa and Leeds. Rotherham lowest with 9,458.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Feb 7, 2019 9:45:11 GMT
It's about 1200 down on 2 years ago.
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Post by Marshy on Feb 7, 2019 9:52:16 GMT
City's average is .......... 20,817. Sorry to drop that in Sunderland's would be 3rd highest in the Champ, only behind Villa and Leeds. Rotherham lowest with 9,458. Shithead 😁
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Feb 7, 2019 10:11:52 GMT
That's pretty impressive considering some of the football this season.
Bradford have an excellent pricing structure and offer £150 adult season tickets for all areas (just over £6.50 a match) which is a great way to ensure larger crowds. Much better than having an empty 25,000 seater stadium.
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Post by keygas on Feb 7, 2019 10:18:13 GMT
It's about 1200 down on 2 years ago. I don’t think this seasons crowds have been helped by the changes the club made at the start of the season.The scrapping of the early bird discounted admission price & for the first time people not being able to use cash at the turnstiles.
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Post by farmygas on Feb 7, 2019 10:26:01 GMT
One selfish bonus of being absolutely dogshit this season is the Mem is an absolute nightmare with a plus 9000 crowd
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Post by mjhgas on Feb 7, 2019 11:01:29 GMT
Confirming that there is little point in building a 20,000 stadium unless we follow the Bradford model!
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Post by aghast on Feb 7, 2019 11:23:51 GMT
Of the teams above us, I would suggest only Luton and Plymouth are ones we should aim to match or beat in terms of attendances. We're never going to catch the others unless we improve the stadium, so I think we're doing reasonably well considering the terrible season so far.
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Post by farmygas on Feb 7, 2019 11:32:35 GMT
Confirming that there is little point in building a 20,000 stadium unless we follow the Bradford model! Which we absolutely should do to avoiding losing a generation of fans to City.
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 7, 2019 12:00:51 GMT
Confirming that there is little point in building a 20,000 stadium unless we follow the Bradford model! Which we absolutely should do to avoiding losing a generation of fans to City. I think the horse has already bolted on that one mate. They already have the stadium and are top 6 in the championship. Our feckless bunch decided against building the best chance we had of a stadium and with it went any ambition of championship football. You need facilities to compete in that league. Scunthorpe, Yeovil and Burton have proven that you cannot sustain championship football without it. I said when the UWE collapsed that the board needed to move quickly to put a model and vision in place to achieve in 5 years. And they have done and aren’t doing F all.
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Post by farmygas on Feb 7, 2019 13:43:26 GMT
Which we absolutely should do to avoiding losing a generation of fans to City. I think the horse has already bolted on that one mate. They already have the stadium and are top 6 in the championship. Our feckless bunch decided against building the best chance we had of a stadium and with it went any ambition of championship football. You need facilities to compete in that league. Scunthorpe, Yeovil and Burton have proven that you cannot sustain championship football without it. I said when the UWE collapsed that the board needed to move quickly to put a model and vision in place to achieve in 5 years. And they have done and aren’t doing F all. I think you're right on footballing and facilities terms. I don't know the ins and outs of the rejected UWE deal, it could well have been terrible for the club (although if was worse than staying at the Mem I struggle to imagine it). This might be a controversial opinion but in the medium-term I think it's pointless to try and beat City at the facilities game, they are decades ahead and have virtually infinite money. If I were in charge of the club I would be leaning heavily into the authentic/traditional experience/against modern football, family/community & value for money angles, which is the only thing we have/could conceivably have over City at the moment. Like it or not Bristol has become a trendy city and that means there are 18-20whatever year olds out there who favor a more... rustic, shall we say, football experience. Well regardless of what we think of the Mem, it has the second largest amount of standing room of any stadium in the football league (behind Carlisle) and a massive terrace behind the goal that on our best days opposition fans go away full of compliments for. If we could raise the atmosphere and have the club take steps to encourage that, that's something to show off that I believe would attract those types of fans. I think we all buy into the siege mentality but for outsiders it's hard to see why, this would give neutrals a way in to that. Also you're not going to be bombarded with adverts for the Bristol City Badminton Bandicoots and the like when you enter the Mem which I've always personally appreciated. They're a sports franchise, we're a football club. Accentuate that. I cannot fault the efforts of the CT, I think they've been outstanding of late. No notes! This will give us more visibility with the (dare I say it) non-football attending Bishopston/Montpelier residents. I also think the club have promoted CT stuff well. Current cheapest tickets at both clubs: City (if you're not a "member") Adult £28 Senior/U25 £25 U22 £22 U19 £16 U12 £10 Rovers Adult £18 Senior/U21 £14 U16 £10 U11 £5 So right off the bat we're offering nothing for 22-25 year olds in a university town. I'd make U16 £5 and U11 free with a paying adult. The reasons for this are threefold: 1) Our facilities are not child friendly. It's a choice between a crowded, boisterous terrace with poor visibility, a terrace completely exposed to the elements and that Dam tent. I have this conversation with friends with young children a lot and if dyed-in-the-wool Rovers fans don't want to bring their kids along, what chance to we have with a family new to the area? If these are the facilities we're sticking with, the only choice is to massively undercut City. 2) More kids at the game sells more sweets, pop, food etc. 3) (With respect) we're a demographic time bomb people! Look around you! Lastly, a season ticket to sit in the South Stand at Ashton Gate will cost you £345. A season ticket to sit in the South/South West TENT at the Mem will cost you £350. This and the new family stand should be £320, at most. Thanks and apologies to anyone that stuck with this post, I think about this stuff a lot!
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Post by Blueside on Feb 7, 2019 15:45:36 GMT
I think the horse has already bolted on that one mate. They already have the stadium and are top 6 in the championship. Our feckless bunch decided against building the best chance we had of a stadium and with it went any ambition of championship football. You need facilities to compete in that league. Scunthorpe, Yeovil and Burton have proven that you cannot sustain championship football without it. I said when the UWE collapsed that the board needed to move quickly to put a model and vision in place to achieve in 5 years. And they have done and aren’t doing F all. I think you're right on footballing and facilities terms. I don't know the ins and outs of the rejected UWE deal, it could well have been terrible for the club (although if was worse than staying at the Mem I struggle to imagine it). This might be a controversial opinion but in the medium-term I think it's pointless to try and beat City at the facilities game, they are decades ahead and have virtually infinite money. If I were in charge of the club I would be leaning heavily into the authentic/traditional experience/against modern football, family/community & value for money angles, which is the only thing we have/could conceivably have over City at the moment. Like it or not Bristol has become a trendy city and that means there are 18-20whatever year olds out there who favor a more... rustic, shall we say, football experience. Well regardless of what we think of the Mem, it has the second largest amount of standing room of any stadium in the football league (behind Carlisle) and a massive terrace behind the goal that on our best days opposition fans go away full of compliments for. If we could raise the atmosphere and have the club take steps to encourage that, that's something to show off that I believe would attract those types of fans. I think we all buy into the siege mentality but for outsiders it's hard to see why, this would give neutrals a way in to that. Also you're not going to be bombarded with adverts for the Bristol City Badminton Bandicoots and the like when you enter the Mem which I've always personally appreciated. They're a sports franchise, we're a football club. Accentuate that. I cannot fault the efforts of the CT, I think they've been outstanding of late. No notes! This will give us more visibility with the (dare I say it) non-football attending Bishopston/Montpelier residents. I also think the club have promoted CT stuff well. Current cheapest tickets at both clubs: City (if you're not a "member") Adult £28 Senior/U25 £25 U22 £22 U19 £16 U12 £10 Rovers Adult £18 Senior/U21 £14 U16 £10 U11 £5 So right off the bat we're offering nothing for 22-25 year olds in a university town. I'd make U16 £5 and U11 free with a paying adult. The reasons for this are threefold: 1) Our facilities are not child friendly. It's a choice between a crowded, boisterous terrace with poor visibility, a terrace completely exposed to the elements and that f**king tent. I have this conversation with friends with young children a lot and if dyed-in-the-wool Rovers fans don't want to bring their kids along, what chance to we have with a family new to the area? If these are the facilities we're sticking with, the only choice is to massively undercut City. 2) More kids at the game sells more sweets, pop, food etc. 3) (With respect) we're a demographic time bomb people! Look around you! Lastly, a season ticket to sit in the South Stand at Ashton Gate will cost you £345. A season ticket to sit in the South/South West TENT at the Mem will cost you £350. This and the new family stand should be £320, at most. Thanks and apologies to anyone that stuck with this post, I think about this stuff a lot! Good post. I actually quite like the Mem. I like to be able stand and I like the old school grass roots feeling of the good old days, as bad as they were. Equally understand that we have to move with the times because the future is not built on us old farts. In retaining that rustic feel it would have to be a balanced one. We just need to be very careful what we wish for. You also make some good/interesting points about the that team we all love to hate and how we should exist alongside them.
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Post by Icegas on Feb 7, 2019 16:01:50 GMT
One selfish bonus of being absolutely dogshit this season is the Mem is an absolute nightmare with a plus 9000 crowd I'd say its a nightmare with a crowd of 7000 plus.Trying to use the bar and toilets are hell sometimes.
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Post by Marshy on Feb 7, 2019 16:13:57 GMT
One selfish bonus of being absolutely dogshit this season is the Mem is an absolute nightmare with a plus 9000 crowd I'd say its a nightmare with a crowd of 7000 plus.Trying to use the bar and toilets are hell sometimes. Yep, especially when Bolders is lurking. TBH I’m surprised that we are averaging just over 8k with the dogshit football that’s been served up this season. But we’re gas and it’s what we do init! UTG.
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Post by Big Jock on Feb 7, 2019 18:11:12 GMT
I always feel more lonely in big crowds. So smaller crowds suits me.
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Post by lpgas on Feb 7, 2019 18:46:06 GMT
The Bradford model, isn't just selling season tickets at a £150, they are that price because so many have bought them. The principle is one that they have has for a long time. The more season tickets you sell the cheaper they are. They start with season tickets are £250, but if they sell 10,000 it will be £150
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Post by gaelgas on Feb 7, 2019 22:05:09 GMT
Of the teams above us, I would suggest only Luton and Plymouth are ones we should aim to match or beat in terms of attendances. We're never going to catch the others unless we improve the stadium, so I think we're doing reasonably well considering the terrible season so far. I agree with this totally, you look at the top 6, they all have big stadia, have been in the Premiership in living memory and are one team towns, and with the exception of Bradford, are traditionally championship or above teams. That's not to say we don't have that potential but until we have a ground fit for at least the championship we are not going to get close to the like of Sunderland.
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