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Post by pirate on Feb 18, 2019 10:37:50 GMT
Surely he would want one, considering he has been forced to play a left back in the role (and Sercs out of position)? As for the other bit of your post, obviously we don't know and can only speculate.So TW gets slaughtered on here even though none of us really know who's to blame? I haven't "slaughtered" him.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 18, 2019 12:28:12 GMT
So TW gets slaughtered on here even though none of us really know who's to blame? I haven't "slaughtered" him. Maybe not you but that's the way the thread seems to be going.
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Post by tomylil on Feb 19, 2019 12:31:27 GMT
For sure, but, left sided mids/wingers that are actually any good are hard to find which probably cranks up the rates? I'm sure there would've been a decent Prem/Championship youth/reserve that could've done a good job for us and gave us a different option. A reserve championship player or a Premier league youth kid would ruin us financially unfortunately if they were good enough to make a difference.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 19, 2019 13:20:06 GMT
I'm sure there would've been a decent Prem/Championship youth/reserve that could've done a good job for us and gave us a different option. A reserve championship player or a Premier league youth kid would ruin us financially unfortunately if they were good enough to make a difference. I doubt Accrington are paying a fortune for Paul Smyth from QPR but he tore Sunderland apart on Friday night.
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Post by pirate on Feb 19, 2019 13:36:11 GMT
I'm sure there would've been a decent Prem/Championship youth/reserve that could've done a good job for us and gave us a different option. A reserve championship player or a Premier league youth kid would ruin us financially unfortunately if they were good enough to make a difference. There are 17/18-year-olds that would be good enough to make a difference (even if only as an impact substitute) that I'm sure wouldn't "ruin us financially." I watched Liverpool v Man Utd U18s the other week and Liverpool had a 17-year-old lad called Luis Longstaff that I'm sure could have an impact at League One level already, even at his young age. If you're good enough you are old enough in my book. Also as Topper says, I doubt Accrington are paying a fortune for someone like Paul Smyth...and he's a full international.
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Post by gregsy on Feb 19, 2019 13:59:29 GMT
Why the feck can't we create a player ourselves using the academy / youth systems.... Are we actually being priced out of producing players these days?
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Post by pirate on Feb 19, 2019 14:05:25 GMT
Why the feck can't we create a player ourselves using the academy / youth systems.... Are we actually being priced out of producing players these days? There is tremendous competition in the area for the best young players with C*ty, Cardiff, Southampton, Chelsea and others with a presence who can offer better financial incentives and facilities.
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Post by gregsy on Feb 19, 2019 14:10:41 GMT
Why the feck can't we create a player ourselves using the academy / youth systems.... Are we actually being priced out of producing players these days? There is tremendous competition in the area for the best young players with C*ty, Cardiff, Southampton, Chelsea and others with a presence who can offer better incentives and facilities. So in reality our youth set up is for what? A load of kids who couldn't sign for a bigger club and will never make the grade? Sorry dude, but since bagdahdi was released and Russe loaned out I'm finding it increasingly frustrating to what it's all about....
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Post by pirate on Feb 19, 2019 14:50:49 GMT
There is tremendous competition in the area for the best young players with C*ty, Cardiff, Southampton, Chelsea and others with a presence who can offer better incentives and facilities. So in reality our youth set up is for what? A load of kids who couldn't sign for a bigger club and will never make the grade? Sorry dude, but since bagdahdi was released and Russe loaned out I'm finding it increasingly frustrating to what it's all about.... There are always exceptions to the rule and we have seen with the likes of Lockyer (released by Cardiff as a youngster, now a full int.) that players can slip through the net/get released that can have a benefit longer term for us. We've obviously also got other regulars like Ollie Clarke and Linesy who came through our system. The reality is there is a pecking order and we have to pick up the best of the rest and hopefully develop those players with good coaching further down the line so we eventually get them in the first team. Showing parents there is a pathway to the first team is a big help and we have done that to a certain extent with Russe and even 16-year-old Zain Walker (released by Fulham) who had some minutes in the Trophy.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Feb 19, 2019 14:56:48 GMT
Pirate, really love your enthusiasm, knowledge and dedication to the cause but I get the impression we don't have the money,ability or inclination to follow up your tips.I recommended a player to the Gas from a Staffordshire team called Rocester some years ago called Tony Hemmings who was snapped up by Wycombe.
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Post by pirate on Feb 19, 2019 15:09:46 GMT
Pirate, really love your enthusiasm, knowledge and dedication to the cause but I get the impression we don't have the money,ability or inclination to follow up your tips.I recommended a player to the Gas from a Staffordshire team called Rocester some years ago called Tony Hemmings who was snapped up by Wycombe. Wow Tony Hemmings, that is going back a bit! His son Kane is currently at Notts County.
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Post by markczgas on Feb 19, 2019 22:57:01 GMT
Why the feck can't we create a player ourselves using the academy / youth systems.... Are we actually being priced out of producing players these days? it is only a trickle but Locks came at 16 , Ellis at 15, We have Russe who could make it. There's a few good U17 forwards - Hulbert and Phillips who could make the grade. But you're not going to get floods of them at most clubs. Just the mega 5/6 Prem produce league players cos they pay loads for them these days if they don't produce their own.
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Post by lpgas on Feb 20, 2019 12:03:59 GMT
Should have kept Monty
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 12:09:06 GMT
Yet he is unable to get a start for a team 21st in league 2. A team that looked very poor at the mem recently.
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 20, 2019 16:08:42 GMT
Why the feck can't we create a player ourselves using the academy / youth systems.... Are we actually being priced out of producing players these days? it is only a trickle but Locks came at 16 , Ellis at 15, We have Russe who could make it. There's a few good U17 forwards - Hulbert and Phillips who could make the grade. But you're not going to get floods of them at most clubs. Just the mega 5/6 Prem produce league players cos they pay loads for them these days if they don't produce their own. I recommended Ollie Hulbert he is my mates son and Southampton were all over him, in schoolboy football scored ridiculous amount of goals,never seen him play what is he like?
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 20, 2019 19:09:21 GMT
I’ve no idea as to the lines of power or responsibility with regards to recruitment so I cant blame anyone. But with his Coventry connections if TW was responsible for Johnson Clark-Harris then he needs to be congratulated. At Pompey last night he was very good and no defender is going to enjoy playing against him and he put in a real shift. As did Ogogo who stopped their midfield from ever taking a hold on the match. TW has taken some stick, due perhaps to our ignorance of how it works at Rovers, but I think we’re stronger after the window than we were before. It’s a shame we didn’t get someone who could be more of a winger to allow Liam S to be more central but that may not be his responsibility. UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 19:18:26 GMT
I’ve no idea as to the lines of power or responsibility with regards to recruitment so I cant blame anyone. But with his Coventry connections if TW was responsible for Johnson Clark-Harris then he needs to be congratulated. At Pompey last night he was very good and no defender is going to enjoy playing against him and he put in a real shift. As did Ogogo who stopped their midfield from ever taking a hold on the match. TW has taken some stick, due perhaps to our ignorance of how it works at Rovers, but I think we’re stronger after the window than we were before. It’s a shame we didn’t get someone who could be more of a winger to allow Liam S to be more central but that may not be his responsibility. UTG! Eventually though we are going to run out of players with Coventry connections, it will be interesting to see what he does when he has to use a bit of imagination to find some signings for us. Hopefully we will have outgrown him by the time that time comes.
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 20, 2019 19:54:11 GMT
I’ve no idea as to the lines of power or responsibility with regards to recruitment so I cant blame anyone. But with his Coventry connections if TW was responsible for Johnson Clark-Harris then he needs to be congratulated. At Pompey last night he was very good and no defender is going to enjoy playing against him and he put in a real shift. As did Ogogo who stopped their midfield from ever taking a hold on the match. TW has taken some stick, due perhaps to our ignorance of how it works at Rovers, but I think we’re stronger after the window than we were before. It’s a shame we didn’t get someone who could be more of a winger to allow Liam S to be more central but that may not be his responsibility. UTG! Eventually though we are going to run out of players with Coventry connections, it will be interesting to see what he does when he has to use a bit of imagination to find some signings for us. Hopefully we will have outgrown him by the time that time comes. You may be right but I guess my point was we’ve been crying out for a striker for the whole season and he seems (so far) to be the player we’ve needed. Last night he looked good, although I’m not sure Alex J is his natural strike partner, so credit where it’s due (if it is due to TW). And with so many contracts up in the Summer and the league we play in being uncertain until April or May we will find out how good he is fairly soon.😉 UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 20, 2019 19:59:12 GMT
Listening to JCH's interview pre-match last night it sounded like his transfer was all lastminute.com as he wasn't even told about the transfer until 8pm on deadline day, I wonder if his name just cropped up when we were sorting out the Agogo transfer rather than anything to do with any Coventry connections. You do have to wonder if Waddington is still around post DC as, if he is, he doesn't seen to have much impact in the last transfer window.
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Post by markczgas on Feb 20, 2019 22:34:22 GMT
it is only a trickle but Locks came at 16 , Ellis at 15, We have Russe who could make it. There's a few good U17 forwards - Hulbert and Phillips who could make the grade. But you're not going to get floods of them at most clubs. Just the mega 5/6 Prem produce league players cos they pay loads for them these days if they don't produce their own. I recommended Ollie Hulbert he is my mates son and Southampton were all over him, in schoolboy football scored ridiculous amount of goals,never seen him play what is he like? Haven't seen him play for over a year now, but he is a classy player, lots of assists (good awareness) as well as goals, Phillips more of a typical finisher.
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