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Post by titchthephot on Feb 24, 2019 13:28:24 GMT
Why, why, why do we over hit set pieces and then have no-one at the back post (or beyond) to head the ball back into the 6yd box? EVERY corner or wide free kick gets hit far too long. Surely the management and players must watch videos of their games and think 'Why don't we have a deep player on set pieces?' I've never been a manager or don't proclaim to know a lot about tactics of the game but to just hoof a ball too far every time just shows lack of awareness. If you know you can't control the pace of your kick then adapt your play to suit. Stick someone out wide rather than be content to watch the ball run into an empty space and then go out for a goal kick. It's not rocket science and it happens soooooooo many times. OC seems to have a '6 iron' boot when he should be using a pitching wedge leg. I don't normally complain about the standard of football at the Mem (been watching them too long to expect too much) but this bad practice really winds me up. Somebody have a word!!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 24, 2019 13:39:18 GMT
Everyone was 10% more hyped than they are in training?
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Post by titchthephot on Feb 24, 2019 13:43:18 GMT
Maybe they should have moved 10% further back then? :-)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 14:26:29 GMT
I'm afraid it's just another sign of how we play. No width!
How often do you notice in our games that all our players can be found in one third of the width of the pitch. It happens all the time and especially so in the case of free kicks, corners etc.
This makes it easy for the opposition to defend against, knowing they are not going to be hit by someone breaking out wide.
You only have to look at the Premier/Championship to see sides spread out the full width of the pitch.
If only one of our players would peel off from a corner and get around the back beyond the far post. Instead we see headless chickens all drawn towards the ball and nobody looking at the wider picture of where the space is.
What is done in training is clearly what we are seeing on a match day and is just tin pot tactics and coaching.
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Post by lisbongas on Feb 24, 2019 15:29:06 GMT
Why, why, why do we over hit set pieces and then have no-one at the back post (or beyond) to head the ball back into the 6yd box? EVERY corner or wide free kick gets hit far too long. Surely the management and players must watch videos of their games and think 'Why don't we have a deep player on set pieces?' I've never been a manager or don't proclaim to know a lot about tactics of the game but to just hoof a ball too far every time just shows lack of awareness. If you know you can't control the pace of your kick then adapt your play to suit. Stick someone out wide rather than be content to watch the ball run into an empty space and then go out for a goal kick. It's not rocket science and it happens soooooooo many times. OC seems to have a '6 iron' boot when he should be using a pitching wedge leg. I don't normally complain about the standard of football at the Mem (been watching them too long to expect too much) but this bad practice really winds me up. Somebody have a word!! Spot on comment. With such poor attacking play we should be looking to maximise goal scoring opportunities from set pieces. Lockyer seems more focused on standing on the goalies toes and wrestling defenders than actually getting himself in a goal scoring position. Generally the corners are massively over hit with no one attacking the back post. We take two players wide for each corner although we never play short, so pointless. Biggest question of all, is what are we doing for five training sessions a week. Whatever we are working on in respect to corners it ain't working. Its either poor poor coaching or players not good enough. I suspect the former |
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Post by Rod1883 on Feb 24, 2019 15:36:49 GMT
This point was also made in a couple of threads yesterday. If we had someone out wide for corners/kicks then they could play the ball back in whilst the opposition defenders are trying to readjust. We conceded at Pompey and yesterday to exactly this scenario - the ball was overhit by their player on both of the crosses and then knocked back in for them to score.
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Post by thegasareback on Feb 24, 2019 18:54:33 GMT
If the balls were being fizzed in, where if you get the slightest touch it’s a goal threat, then you could understand it more. But the floaters that go too long, continuously, are unacceptable. The one that went into a decent area JCH should’ve hit the target at least.
Stuart Campbell used to just float them but always on the money.
When some of the wide free kicks, there seems little imagination. But then GC is a defensive coach by trade.
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Post by bradfordmeyerbiggs on Feb 24, 2019 19:09:08 GMT
If we are going to hit the long ball we need big Devon White or Chris McLean up top. Not our style these days. We are a footballing side.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 19:46:58 GMT
If we are going to hit the long ball we need big Devon White or Chris McLean up top. Not our style these days. We are a footballing side. A footballing side with hoofball |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Feb 24, 2019 21:08:40 GMT
We are a footballing side. Not with Lockyer and Craig launching it as long as possible every time they get the ball, we aren’t. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2019 23:53:31 GMT
In my view you have to have players attacking the space where your planning to deliver the ball.
I don't believe you can put players in positions in case the corner is rubbish.
Its inexplicable that so many corners were over hit on saturday,what a relief for sunderland to see every corner miss its target's.
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Post by Gassy on Feb 25, 2019 7:46:55 GMT
On top of this issue over overhitting set pieces/going for back post - why oh why oh why from kick off do we lump it out every single time for the opposition throw in.
We've done this since the Trollope era, it's never worked once. I don't even understand what we're trying to do. Even if we get a head on it, where are we going?
Just throwing away possession constantly
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Post by William Wilson on Feb 25, 2019 7:51:52 GMT
If we are going to hit the long ball we need big Devon White or Chris McLean up top. Not our style these days. We are a footballing side. A footballing side with hoofball A hoofballing side, with a football. |
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Post by lpgas on Feb 25, 2019 10:58:07 GMT
The corners have been crap for years, usually it's down to Lines, but everyone seems to hit it to the other side of the pitch. Free kicks, well Lines is best at them.
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Post by Fetch on Feb 25, 2019 12:43:29 GMT
The corners have been crap for years, usually it's down to Lines, but everyone seems to hit it to the other side of the pitch. Free kicks, well Lines is best at them. I see better corner delivery in sunday league. You wonder what they do in training all week. |
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Post by scoobydoogas on Feb 25, 2019 12:49:19 GMT
Lines is truly awful at corners. Always floated and too long. Defences have an age to adjust as the ball is in the air for so long. You can't even blame the wind cos it is happening at both sides of the ground and at both ends.
Against Sunderland the whole first half of corners were completed wasted with this inability to perform a basic task. In the second half the corner taker was changed and immediately the ball was landing much closer to the middle of the goal. I recall we scored a number of times from Stuart Campbell's corners - mainly when he hit the near post, someone headed it on and it was then nodded in by someone following up behind. Why can't we try that again?
Even DC tried something different for a while a couple of years ago and it yielded some goals. We would send the corner in to a designated area and then we would have 3 or 4 players hitting that areas en masse. It relies on the corner being delivered properly but it's very difficult to defend against. Then as suddenly as it started, we stopped doing it. Very strange.
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Post by lpgas on Feb 25, 2019 15:58:14 GMT
We have gone back to Clarke style at home. Get a white witch in
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 25, 2019 16:16:20 GMT
We have gone back to Clarke style at home. Get a white witch in Did we ever move away form it? Apart from when we beat 10 men Fleetwood we've played the same in virtually every home game this season apart from against Coventry & Posh (first half). |
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Post by tommym9 on Feb 25, 2019 16:22:18 GMT
On top of this issue over overhitting set pieces/going for back post - why oh why oh why from kick off do we lump it out every single time for the opposition throw in. We've done this since the Trollope era, it's never worked once. I don't even understand what we're trying to do. Even if we get a head on it, where are we going? Just throwing away possession constantly It used to work when it was out to Monkhouse on the left |
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Post by Gassy on Feb 25, 2019 16:42:17 GMT
On top of this issue over overhitting set pieces/going for back post - why oh why oh why from kick off do we lump it out every single time for the opposition throw in. We've done this since the Trollope era, it's never worked once. I don't even understand what we're trying to do. Even if we get a head on it, where are we going? Just throwing away possession constantly It used to work when it was out to Monkhouse on the left Only if we didn't kick is straight out of play! |
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