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Post by chewbacca on Mar 12, 2019 13:31:57 GMT
Not really sure what the issue is here, it's not a new one. Of course it's unfortunate but Locks is a player that comes with this role. It's pretty obvious he's become a squad regular for Wales in the last 18 months and good on him. It's a compliment to both Locks and Rovers.
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Post by Okebournegas on Mar 12, 2019 13:36:07 GMT
Not really sure what the issue is here, it's not a new one. Of course it's unfortunate but Locks is a player that comes with this role. It's pretty obvious he's become a squad regular for Wales in the last 18 months and good on him. It's a compliment to both Locks and Rovers. About to post pretty much the same !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 13:48:35 GMT
Not really sure what the issue is here, it's not a new one. Of course it's unfortunate but Locks is a player that comes with this role. It's pretty obvious he's become a squad regular for Wales in the last 18 months and good on him. It's a compliment to both Locks and Rovers. Exactly! Calling for someone called up for his country to stay and play for us in the league. I wonder if similar calls of how unfair it is, would be made if he was injured or suspended for a game. Good luck to him I say, if we have to rely on one player we really are desperate.
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Post by spiess1 on Mar 12, 2019 14:17:10 GMT
And of course everyone would make the same point if a PAFC player was unavailable rather than TL.
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Post by bluestone on Mar 12, 2019 14:22:35 GMT
Not really sure what the issue is here, it's not a new one. Of course it's unfortunate but Locks is a player that comes with this role. It's pretty obvious he's become a squad regular for Wales in the last 18 months and good on him. It's a compliment to both Locks and Rovers. Exactly! Calling for someone called up for his country to stay and play for us in the league. I wonder if similar calls of how unfair it is, would be made if he was injured or suspended for a game. Good luck to him I say, if we have to rely on one player we really are desperate. That's a good point actually, when it comes to injuries and suspensions I would say Locks is well below the level you would expect a player to be at. It's obvious from his interviews how much he gets out of being in and around the Wales squad, it can only do him good in the long term imo and if he benefits then so does BRFC. Yes there is a short term impact with him missing some games but that creates an opportunity for others to show what they can do and with Locks and Craig being a solid partnership at the back all season there hasn't been much of an opportunity for anyone. I would really like to see Kilgour be given the chance, he seems to be in good form from his loan spell so it would be good to see what he can do.
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Post by markczgas on Mar 12, 2019 14:29:45 GMT
Exactly! Calling for someone called up for his country to stay and play for us in the league. I wonder if similar calls of how unfair it is, would be made if he was injured or suspended for a game. Good luck to him I say, if we have to rely on one player we really are desperate. That's a good point actually, when it comes to injuries and suspensions I would say Locks is well below the level you would expect a player to be at. It's obvious from his interviews how much he gets out of being in and around the Wales squad, it can only do him good in the long term imo and if he benefits then so does BRFC. Yes there is a short term impact with him missing some games but that creates an opportunity for others to show what they can do and with Locks and Craig being a solid partnership at the back all season there hasn't been much of an opportunity for anyone. I would really like to see Kilgour be given the chance, he seems to be in good form from his loan spell so it would be good to see what he can do.In most situations I'd agree with that but as we are in a massive fight to stay up and a game against one of our rivals for the drop, Argyle, and a 12,000 plus crowd I'd go for experience alongside Craig - J. Clarke. Also prefer left and right footer CB partnership. I believe Kilgour is left-footed.
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Post by socrates on Mar 12, 2019 14:51:18 GMT
It does give him experience of training with higher quality players, how often do you get the chance to test your defending up against Gareth Bale and Aaron Ramsey? Also puts makes him that little bit more valuable if we were to sell him, If Ryan Giggs thinks he's good enough, I'm sure there could be a few Championship clubs having a look at him, especially after his form this season. Just wish we had a couple more internationals like Charlton and Sunderland do so we could postpone the games, where is Jake Gosling when you need him? Great so we lose him for an important game and then lose him at the end of the season to a championship club for next to f**k all 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 14:57:05 GMT
It's wrong that Premier League and Championship clubs have no games on international weekend, irrespective of whether they have any internationals, yet lower league clubs, who are affected more by losing what will inevitably be one of their better players, have to get on with it.
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Post by axegas on Mar 12, 2019 15:05:01 GMT
It does give him experience of training with higher quality players, how often do you get the chance to test your defending up against Gareth Bale and Aaron Ramsey? Also puts makes him that little bit more valuable if we were to sell him, If Ryan Giggs thinks he's good enough, I'm sure there could be a few Championship clubs having a look at him, especially after his form this season. Just wish we had a couple more internationals like Charlton and Sunderland do so we could postpone the games, where is Jake Gosling when you need him? Great so we lose him for an important game and then lose him at the end of the season to a championship club for next to f**k all 🤣 But he's not good enough if some of the moaners in the East Terrace would have you believe?
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Post by socrates on Mar 12, 2019 15:34:57 GMT
Great so we lose him for an important game and then lose him at the end of the season to a championship club for next to f**k all 🤣 But he's not good enough if some of the moaners in the East Terrace would have you believe? This is one of the reasons I don’t stand on the east terrace. I reckon it’s years of standing in the rain getting water wet through, makes them miserable. Not sure why people choose to do that when they could stand under a roof anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 15:50:21 GMT
That's a good point actually, when it comes to injuries and suspensions I would say Locks is well below the level you would expect a player to be at. It's obvious from his interviews how much he gets out of being in and around the Wales squad, it can only do him good in the long term imo and if he benefits then so does BRFC. Yes there is a short term impact with him missing some games but that creates an opportunity for others to show what they can do and with Locks and Craig being a solid partnership at the back all season there hasn't been much of an opportunity for anyone. I would really like to see Kilgour be given the chance, he seems to be in good form from his loan spell so it would be good to see what he can do.In most situations I'd agree with that but as we are in a massive fight to stay up and a game against one of our rivals for the drop, Argyle, and a 12,000 plus crowd I'd go for experience alongside Craig - J. Clarke. Also prefer left and right footer CB partnership. I believe Kilgour is left-footed. Will either Parts or Leads be fit to replace James Clarke if he moves into the middle?
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Post by matealotblue on Mar 12, 2019 15:53:37 GMT
It's wrong that Premier League and Championship clubs have no games on international weekend, irrespective of whether they have any internationals, yet lower league clubs, who are affected more by losing what will inevitably be one of their better players, have to get on with it. When have PL or Championship clubs ever given a flying fig about L1 and L2 clubs?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 15:56:56 GMT
It's wrong that Premier League and Championship clubs have no games on international weekend, irrespective of whether they have any internationals, yet lower league clubs, who are affected more by losing what will inevitably be one of their better players, have to get on with it. I suspect every team bar one or two in the Prem and Championship would have more than three internationals so likely there would be no matches in international week regardless of a blanket cancellation. Every league below can have games cancelled if three or more players get called up - it's a bit weird when we had bit part players like Gosling who would get called up for Internationals allowing us to cancel. Perhaps it would be fairer if games could be called off if one 'key' player was going to be missing - perhaps defined as someone who has started 90% of games for which he's been available?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 16:18:56 GMT
It's wrong that Premier League and Championship clubs have no games on international weekend, irrespective of whether they have any internationals, yet lower league clubs, who are affected more by losing what will inevitably be one of their better players, have to get on with it. I suspect every team bar one or two in the Prem and Championship would have more than three internationals so likely there would be no matches in international week regardless of a blanket cancellation. Every league below can have games cancelled if three or more players get called up - it's a bit weird when we had bit part players like Gosling who would get called up for Internationals allowing us to cancel. Perhaps it would be fairer if games could be called off if one 'key' player was going to be missing - perhaps defined as someone who has started 90% of games for which he's been available? Absolutely. The current rule creates too much of an imbalance in the league fixture. If say, Plymouth had 2 players (probably their best players) out and we had none, that would give us a clear advantage. Can't be right.
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Post by Rod1883 on Mar 12, 2019 16:18:58 GMT
I think it would be simpler if the International break was for the whole EFL, or possibly as an alternative - a club has the option to call a game off if any player is called up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 16:19:32 GMT
It's wrong that Premier League and Championship clubs have no games on international weekend, irrespective of whether they have any internationals, yet lower league clubs, who are affected more by losing what will inevitably be one of their better players, have to get on with it. When have PL or Championship clubs ever given a flying fig about L1 and L2 clubs? I think we all know the answer to that one!
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Post by socrates on Mar 12, 2019 17:01:25 GMT
It's wrong that Premier League and Championship clubs have no games on international weekend, irrespective of whether they have any internationals, yet lower league clubs, who are affected more by losing what will inevitably be one of their better players, have to get on with it. I suspect every team bar one or two in the Prem and Championship would have more than three internationals so likely there would be no matches in international week regardless of a blanket cancellation. Every league below can have games cancelled if three or more players get called up - it's a bit weird when we had bit part players like Gosling who would get called up for Internationals allowing us to cancel. Perhaps it would be fairer if games could be called off if one 'key' player was going to be missing - perhaps defined as someone who has started 90% of games for which he's been available? This would be the best thing to do ☝️
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Post by neilv93 on Mar 12, 2019 17:11:58 GMT
I think it would be simpler if the International break was for the whole EFL, or possibly as an alternative - a club has the option to call a game off if any player is called up. I think this would work if there was either four tiers of 20 or no Checkatrade trophy but with 46 games it's already hard enough to find time to fit all the games in, notwithstanding re-arranging those that do get called off due to internationals and poor weather.
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Post by legas on Mar 12, 2019 17:24:30 GMT
No point, Scotland have a game that weekend.
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Post by aghast on Mar 12, 2019 18:36:28 GMT
I'm not doubting TL's commitment to the club for a second, but I bet he places a very high value indeed on being a regular part of the Welsh squad, and would be disappointed to be told he can't join them again.
Not just because it enhances his value and puts him in the shop window come the time we lose him (this summer if we get relegated), but also because it improves him as a player, to the benefit of him and us.
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