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Post by yattongas on Apr 8, 2019 9:40:54 GMT
Gc has to take some responsibility tho I believe as it was clear we needed width at the close of jan and he opted to sign another central midfield player in ogogo Cogs said it wasn’t going to be pretty and we’d have to grind out some results. Lets just get the job done this season and look to play pretty football next yr |
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Post by z1zou on Apr 8, 2019 9:41:48 GMT
Lessons learned after Doncaster for me, we set up to try and nick a goal and were probably lucky to avoid defeat. Had we set up to attack like at donny we probably would have lost. Its a massive point in the grand scheme of things, 3 points clear with a far superior GD and one game closer to the finish line.
Not a bad day at the office
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Post by faggotygas on Apr 8, 2019 11:07:58 GMT
Lets not go there again. DC's net budget was on par with the team around us when he left - i.e., it was negative. We've had a decent budget this year. Whether it's negative or positive is irrelevant to the quality you can bring in for a certain price. The fact is, we brought in players for decent money that have not produced. And we are spending at an annual loss. We were a team that was mid table in League 1. We lost quality from the team, as reflected in a negative value in transfer dealings. The result was that became a below mid-table team. Seems simple to me. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 8, 2019 11:26:54 GMT
We've had a decent budget this year. Whether it's negative or positive is irrelevant to the quality you can bring in for a certain price. The fact is, we brought in players for decent money that have not produced. And we are spending at an annual loss. We were a team that was mid table in League 1. We lost quality from the team, as reflected in a negative value in transfer dealings. The result was that became a below mid-table team. Seems simple to me. That's overly simple coz it is obviously possible to pick up bargains or pay over the odds for players. How did we become a mid table league 1 side when we were in the conference? |
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Post by mehewmagic on Apr 8, 2019 11:41:52 GMT
Would have been interesting to see Bakayoko given a red for what was an absolute leg breaker. Glad we spent the second half dislocating shoulders in an act of revenge. WYHHBETHNQCHA? Would you have him back even though he never quite came here anyway? 🤪 |
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Post by mehewmagic on Apr 8, 2019 11:46:05 GMT
Thanks for the write up Steve The point about GC letting our wingers go. I feel like he's kept with the players who he would want in the trenches as you've said and considering were in a relegation scrap I'd say he's right. The results he's got would suggest he's made the right call there. And as I (or many of us) keep on mentioning, none of us really know the financial side of it (e.g. are swinedon paying a lot of KB's wages...which meant JCH could be signed?) Nor any possible dressing room or person issues. |
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Post by axegas on Apr 8, 2019 11:49:47 GMT
We've had a decent budget this year. Whether it's negative or positive is irrelevant to the quality you can bring in for a certain price. The fact is, we brought in players for decent money that have not produced. And we are spending at an annual loss. We were a team that was mid table in League 1. We lost quality from the team, as reflected in a negative value in transfer dealings. The result was that became a below mid-table team. Seems simple to me. Absolutely right we had a poor summer transfer window and we can’t hide from that. The only part of the pitch we managed to improve was the goalkeeper, bringing in Bonham in the place of Slocombe, a good bit of business albeit on a loan. The defence stayed more or less the same, we traded one good L1 left back for another, THD for Brown, the midfield got slightly worse as we failed to bring in any additions that were better than what we already had and the form of Sercombe and Lines has significantly tailed off. The attack was the part of the team that suffered most, Harrison and Gaffney may not have been one of the best strike forces in the league but it got us goals and after both left we missed Harrison’s work rate and Gaffney’s technical ability. Payne had neither of these things and was found lacking in front of goal and Reilly and Jakubiak work hard but also haven’t found the back of the net as much as we would have liked. January brought us another option in the midfield In Ogogo and most importantly a striker that is better than anything we had previously in JCH, both good signings but there is still a lot of scope for further improvement within the squad. This is why this summer is so important for us both on and off the field. If we have another transfer window like last year and weaken even further, we will go down next year there is no doubt in my mind of that. If we can improve what we have, the sky is the limit of what we can achieve under Coughlan. |
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Post by markczgas on Apr 8, 2019 11:49:49 GMT
Gc has to take some responsibility tho I believe as it was clear we needed width at the close of jan and he opted to sign another central midfield player in ogogo He signed Ogogo and JCH because they give us a bit of bite, strength and power - and they have both delivered it. We don't roll over against physical sides any more. GC has had some bad luck with Rodman and THD having injuries. I guess he used up the signing's budget on those 2. Bennett was garbage this season and Matthews is too weak and probably not a L2 let alone L1 player. I'm confident GC will get players in that will add to the team in the summer. He said he wants to play 4-4 -2 with players in their rightful positions - with the injuries in the last 2 months he hasn't been able to. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 12:01:46 GMT
Would have been interesting to see Bakayoko given a red for what was an absolute leg breaker. Glad we spent the second half dislocating shoulders in an act of revenge. WYHHBETHNQCHA? Would you have him back even though he never quite came here anyway? 🤪 Without a doubt the best 200k we've never spent. |
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Post by mehewmagic on Apr 8, 2019 17:23:13 GMT
Gc has to take some responsibility tho I believe as it was clear we needed width at the close of jan and he opted to sign another central midfield player in ogogo He signed Ogogo and JCH because they give us a bit of bite, strength and power - and they have both delivered it. We don't roll over against physical sides any more. GC has had some bad luck with Rodman and THD having injuries. I guess he used up the signing's budget on those 2. Bennett was garbage this season and Matthews is too weak and probably not a L2 let alone L1 player. I'm confident GC will get players in that will add to the team in the summer. He said he wants to play 4-4 -2 with players in their rightful positions - with the injuries in the last 2 months he hasn't been able to. I'd suggest DC was bloody unfortunate to sign THD but never have him fit. Surely he is the one who truly missed out on that issue. |
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Post by hardingegas on Apr 8, 2019 23:20:04 GMT
DC was very unlucky that THD wasn't fit - but he would probably have played him first as a left back, then left wing-back, dropped to the bench, then attacking central midfielder - in line with his 'projects'!
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 8, 2019 23:28:34 GMT
DC was very unlucky that THD wasn't fit - but he would probably have played him first as a left back, then left wing-back, dropped to the bench, then attacking central midfielder - in line with his 'projects'! It’s quite funny how projects is now completely slated on here by people that no doubt were w**king themselves off stupid about then 2 years ago. Also worth noting, again as I keep pointing out all of the current coaching staff were brought in by Darrell Clarke. |
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Post by kingswoodgas1989 on Apr 8, 2019 23:35:44 GMT
DC was very unlucky that THD wasn't fit - but he would probably have played him first as a left back, then left wing-back, dropped to the bench, then attacking central midfielder - in line with his 'projects'! It’s quite funny how projects is now completely slated on here by people that no doubt were w**king themselves off stupid about then 2 years ago. Also worth noting, again as I keep pointing out all of the current coaching staff were brought in by Darrell Clarke. Mad what people were w*nking about two years ago, also worth noting all the current staff were paid for by the Al-Qadi family |
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 8, 2019 23:41:30 GMT
It’s quite funny how projects is now completely slated on here by people that no doubt were w**king themselves off stupid about then 2 years ago. Also worth noting, again as I keep pointing out all of the current coaching staff were brought in by Darrell Clarke. Mad what people were w*nking about two years ago, also worth noting all the current staff were paid for by the Al-Qadi family Yes, we’ve not put a single penny in. |
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Post by kingswoodgas1989 on Apr 8, 2019 23:42:43 GMT
Mad what people were w*nking about two years ago, also worth noting all the current staff were paid for by the Al-Qadi family Yes, we’ve not put a single penny in. Glad you’re covering two million quid losses every year. |
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Post by chewbacca on Apr 8, 2019 23:44:44 GMT
Yes, we’ve not put a single penny in. Glad you’re covering two million quid losses every year. Calm down Ashley, the charge against the stadium is doing that currently. |
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Post by kingswoodgas1989 on Apr 8, 2019 23:46:28 GMT
Glad you’re covering two million quid losses every year. Calm down Ashley, the charge against the stadium is doing that currently. Calm down yourself David, I’m glad you know so much about finance that we can all assume we are f**ked. Goodnight x |
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Post by glengas on Apr 9, 2019 7:05:21 GMT
All well and good telling Wael to take note but it's hardly like Darrell wasn't given funds to strengthen. He just seemed to suffer the same fate as Trollope that when he had a bit of money to spend it all started to go wrong. I think he suffered the fate that every Rovers manager I have seen has suffered over the last 40 years watching them where your goalscorers are sold for decent money and a fraction of the transfer fee comes back to replace them. I would also suggest that some of the players that he brought in during the summer let him down. Sinclair has spent most of the season on the bench, is asked to go and play on the wing and just gets on with it. A few more players with that attitude and we wouldn’t be strugglie. Let’s hope our board show some ambition and try to hold onto JCH. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 11:56:21 GMT
All well and good telling Wael to take note but it's hardly like Darrell wasn't given funds to strengthen. He just seemed to suffer the same fate as Trollope that when he had a bit of money to spend it all started to go wrong. I think he suffered the fate that every Rovers manager I have seen has suffered over the last 40 years watching them where your goalscorers are sold for decent money and a fraction of the transfer fee comes back to replace them. I would also suggest that some of the players that he brought in during the summer let him down. Sinclair has spent most of the season on the bench, is asked to go and play on the wing and just gets on with it. A few more players with that attitude and we wouldn’t be strugglie. Let’s hope our board show some ambition and try to hold onto JCH. Spot on. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 12:00:43 GMT
DC was very unlucky that THD wasn't fit - but he would probably have played him first as a left back, then left wing-back, dropped to the bench, then attacking central midfielder - in line with his 'projects'! On what basis? What other players did he play out of position? Sercombe yes, but then so has GC and anyway, he's been poor in any position he's played in this season. |
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