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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 13, 2019 7:49:21 GMT
IMO both sets of fans have enough to take the water out of each other and both clubs have more that their fair share of bellends We did used to have that “oh yes” thread but it died a death I think it’s sad we don’t let their fans on here. A few have passed through but just get banned when someone gets sand in their fanny about it. Fair enough kick them off if acting a twat but sure,y there must be some sensible ones! I agree with what your saying Even the sensible ones are not allowed, i refer you to the case of PC Julie ( ) who wanted to come on in her capacity as the police liaison officer........ She never asked to come on here. She just told OTIB that she would, and then she didn't. She's just another ted talking bollox on the internet. Her status as a WPC was irrelevant.
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Post by blueblood1883 on Apr 13, 2019 8:21:22 GMT
They’re holding their own and are settled in the championship, but there is no way on gods green earth they are a top 6 side in the general sense. 11th, 17th & 18th being their last three finishes. I have a feeling they will be going this season No chance... I said the same back in 1982 and the Special lady gardens are still here!
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Post by Okebournegas on Apr 13, 2019 8:22:06 GMT
They dont have a far bigger fan base then us tho.They think they do but they dont. Its bigger right now granted, and they have tapped into more of there potential then we have ours given the Ashton gate rebuild and the money Pantdowns has spent over the past few years.But they forget that pre the championship days of Johnson snr that they were getting 9k,10k,11k each week for years in L1 apart for big games in a ground that even at the time was miles better than the mem and our 3 tents!. They have done nothing as a club apart from rub each other off for years that they have been above us and the gap.The gap has only been there due to our failings rather than there clubs growth until 2015/16 when they started to move on as a club.Which is fair play to them. If and when BCFC get into the premiership it will be the most annoying thing ever to happen to Bristol.Not for the loyal City fans that have followed them for years and should be rewarded and enjoy that success, but rather the Glory seeking plastics that will claim there loved to City and everthing bs3. I disagree. They do have a bigger fan base now than us and they are attracting the next generation of fans in their numbers, largely because kids can sit comfortably in a new stadium with great facilities alongside it. You say they have done nothing, but what are you expecting them to do? In the last 5 years they have won L1 at a canter, among with the tinpot trophy, established themselves in the championship (albeit after a squeaky bum season) and now are a top 6 championship side on a budget, which by championship terms isn’t the biggest. They also had magnificent cup runs last year which brought an even greater exposure to them. Say what you want but I would say that’s pretty good by any clubs standards especially when you consider what clubs are in that league and how they are faring. It’s about progression. True 10 years ago they were only getting 11-12k a week in L1, but some of that is the fickleness of football. I remember going to Leicester in L1 away and thinking their 18k attendance in the kingpower was terrible for a ex premier league team. 10 years later they were selling out in on their way to the premier league title. Not all of those fans watched us lose 2-1 to them that day. Lansdown has built the infrastructure around AG and now they can compete a little more. Yes the gap has been there largely down to us spending 15 years in the basement leagues but we also had the best chance to do the same as City with the UWE and didn’t take it, and we will pay for that decision now for the next 10 years regardless of whether we get a stadium built within the next 5. Let’s hope Wael has an ace card up his sleeve to drag us into the 21st century. Excellently put , I agree with every word.
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 13, 2019 8:40:18 GMT
They’re holding their own and are settled in the championship, but there is no way on gods green earth they are a top 6 side in the general sense. 11th, 17th & 18th being their last three finishes. The league table is lying then. You’re a top 6 side if you are in the top 6. Otherwise it’s like saying Luton isn’t a top 6 side in our league as they only came up from L2 last year.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Apr 13, 2019 8:55:21 GMT
They’re holding their own and are settled in the championship, but there is no way on gods green earth they are a top 6 side in the general sense. 11th, 17th & 18th being their last three finishes. The league table is lying then. You’re a top 6 side if you are in the top 6. Otherwise it’s like saying Luton isn’t a top 6 side in our league as they only came up from L2 last year. Leicester City have won the premier league, a feat that Liverpool & Spurs have not achieved. Are the Foxes a Top 6 premiership club? No they are not. It’ll take a hell of a lot more than finishing in the Championship top 6 for the first time in 11 years, to make that lot over the river one of the top sides in that division.
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 13, 2019 10:41:32 GMT
The league table is lying then. You’re a top 6 side if you are in the top 6. Otherwise it’s like saying Luton isn’t a top 6 side in our league as they only came up from L2 last year. Leicester City have won the premier league, a feat that Liverpool & Spurs have not achieved. Are the Foxes a Top 6 premiership club? No they are not. It’ll take a hell of a lot more than finishing in the Championship top 6 for the first time in 11 years, to make that lot over the river one of the top sides in that division. When Leicester won the league of course they were. They played champions league football, something only achieved if you finish in the top 4. But the last 3 years the status quo has returned. They didn’t maintain their top 6 status. If city finish in the top 6 this year, they will be a top 6 club the following year unless they are unable to maintain their position.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 11:06:35 GMT
Decent manager , excellent ground, incredibly supportive owner , awful scum fans !
We only share one thing with them .... we too have a manager !
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Apr 13, 2019 11:34:44 GMT
There is a debate to be had on fan base v support for our team. In my opinion, fan base is not the same as support, people like me that live away from Bristol find it difficult to see the gas as much as Bristol based fans. I’d say the fan base is about the same for both Bristol teams, when you compare like for like matches, Liverpool in the early 90’s comes to mind, Wembley appearances etc etc Now when you talk about support then City wins hands down, and have done for long periods over the 40 odd years I’ve supported the Gas, because the quality of the product as, by and large been better, higher divisions, more ambitious boards, spending more on players, etc etc and last but not least they’re still playing at their spiritual home, which has always been tidier than eastville anyway. Give us the ground and the board and team to match and we would be getting 20,000 plus crowds too I’m sure.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 11:59:06 GMT
They dont have a far bigger fan base then us tho.They think they do but they dont. Its bigger right now granted, and they have tapped into more of there potential then we have ours given the Ashton gate rebuild and the money Pantdowns has spent over the past few years.But they forget that pre the championship days of Johnson snr that they were getting 9k,10k,11k each week for years in L1 apart for big games in a ground that even at the time was miles better than the mem and our 3 tents!. They have done nothing as a club apart from rub each other off for years that they have been above us and the gap.The gap has only been there due to our failings rather than there clubs growth until 2015/16 when they started to move on as a club.Which is fair play to them. If and when BCFC get into the premiership it will be the most annoying thing ever to happen to Bristol.Not for the loyal City fans that have followed them for years and should be rewarded and enjoy that success, but rather the Glory seeking plastics that will claim there loved to City and everthing bs3. I disagree. They do have a bigger fan base now than us and they are attracting the next generation of fans in their numbers, largely because kids can sit comfortably in a new stadium with great facilities alongside it. You say they have done nothing, but what are you expecting them to do? In the last 5 years they have won L1 at a canter, among with the tinpot trophy, established themselves in the championship (albeit after a squeaky bum season) and now are a top 6 championship side on a budget, which by championship terms isn’t the biggest. They also had magnificent cup runs last year which brought an even greater exposure to them. Say what you want but I would say that’s pretty good by any clubs standards especially when you consider what clubs are in that league and how they are faring. It’s about progression. True 10 years ago they were only getting 11-12k a week in L1, but some of that is the fickleness of football. I remember going to Leicester in L1 away and thinking their 18k attendance in the kingpower was terrible for a ex premier league team. 10 years later they were selling out in on their way to the premier league title. Not all of those fans watched us lose 2-1 to them that day. Lansdown has built the infrastructure around AG and now they can compete a little more. Yes the gap has been there largely down to us spending 15 years in the basement leagues but we also had the best chance to do the same as City with the UWE and didn’t take it, and we will pay for that decision now for the next 10 years regardless of whether we get a stadium built within the next 5. Let’s hope Wael has an ace card up his sleeve to drag us into the 21st century. Probably the best post I've read on this forum. Unfortunately, it's all true as well.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 13, 2019 12:11:49 GMT
I disagree. They do have a bigger fan base now than us and they are attracting the next generation of fans in their numbers, largely because kids can sit comfortably in a new stadium with great facilities alongside it. You say they have done nothing, but what are you expecting them to do? In the last 5 years they have won L1 at a canter, among with the tinpot trophy, established themselves in the championship (albeit after a squeaky bum season) and now are a top 6 championship side on a budget, which by championship terms isn’t the biggest. They also had magnificent cup runs last year which brought an even greater exposure to them. Say what you want but I would say that’s pretty good by any clubs standards especially when you consider what clubs are in that league and how they are faring. It’s about progression. True 10 years ago they were only getting 11-12k a week in L1, but some of that is the fickleness of football. I remember going to Leicester in L1 away and thinking their 18k attendance in the kingpower was terrible for a ex premier league team. 10 years later they were selling out in on their way to the premier league title. Not all of those fans watched us lose 2-1 to them that day. Lansdown has built the infrastructure around AG and now they can compete a little more. Yes the gap has been there largely down to us spending 15 years in the basement leagues but we also had the best chance to do the same as City with the UWE and didn’t take it, and we will pay for that decision now for the next 10 years regardless of whether we get a stadium built within the next 5. Let’s hope Wael has an ace card up his sleeve to drag us into the 21st century. Probably the best post I've read on this forum. Unfortunately, it's all true as well. Not sure why you think the best post on here is one praising city. You'd probably have more fun reading OTIB. The fact is, they have spent enough to get promoted to the Prem several times over, and fortunately for us, they have, so far, failed.
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 13, 2019 12:26:50 GMT
Probably the best post I've read on this forum. Unfortunately, it's all true as well. Not sure why you think the best post on here is one praising city. You'd probably have more fun reading OTIB. The fact is, they have spent enough to get promoted to the Prem several times over, and fortunately for us, they have, so far, failed. So have most other teams in the championship.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 13, 2019 12:40:31 GMT
Not sure why you think the best post on here is one praising city. You'd probably have more fun reading OTIB. The fact is, they have spent enough to get promoted to the Prem several times over, and fortunately for us, they have, so far, failed. So have most other teams in the championship. Most of the teams in the championship have made it to the Prem.
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Post by Icegas on Apr 13, 2019 14:01:24 GMT
There is a debate to be had on fan base v support for our team. In my opinion, fan base is not the same as support, people like me that live away from Bristol find it difficult to see the gas as much as Bristol based fans. I’d say the fan base is about the same for both Bristol teams, when you compare like for like matches, Liverpool in the early 90’s comes to mind, Wembley appearances etc etc Now when you talk about support then City wins hands down, and have done for long periods over the 40 odd years I’ve supported the Gas, because the quality of the product as, by and large been better, higher divisions, more ambitious boards, spending more on players, etc etc and last but not least they’re still playing at their spiritual home, which has always been tidier than eastville anyway. Give us the ground and the board and team to match and we would be getting 20,000 plus crowds too I’m sure. Bob on and you saved me pretty much writing this down to the word. The core of there support base has always been 2/3k greater than ours.However Bristol City have just started to tap into that untapped potential that both Bristol clubs have always had, and could attract given the right stadium and support from there board which City now have! City are getting 20- 22k avg right now as a top championship side, but in the premier could get 30k plus each week. We have just as much un tapped potential as they do but need the stadium and new investment to attract that. Every club that gets a new arena get improved crowds and sometimes double or more there avg gates :Hull, Wigan, Swansea, Brighton, Reading, Cardiff, Doncaster, Fulham..etc are all exmaples of this.City are now in that position also. If we ever get a new ground that same will happen to us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 17:57:26 GMT
Probably the best post I've read on this forum. Unfortunately, it's all true as well. Not sure why you think the best post on here is one praising city. You'd probably have more fun reading OTIB. The fact is, they have spent enough to get promoted to the Prem several times over, and fortunately for us, they have, so far, failed. I don't read OTIB. I think Gashead 1981 is absolutely right in what he says. Maybe it is praise for them, but at least unlike most on here he is level headed enough to acknowledge the strides they have made while we continue to be in the dark ages. Remember DC's infrastructure comments? None of us like it, but they are years ahead of us. Years. They are huge spenders in comparison to us, but in comparison to their rivals in the Championship, far less so. If they weren't BCFC82 but a club from say, the north of England, we'd be saying how well they'd done to be competing with all those 'big' clubs. I hope to God they don't go up as it would inevitably damage us, but I can acknowledge their progress and to a point, achievements they have made over the last two or three years.
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Post by justin blue on Apr 13, 2019 17:58:35 GMT
Decent manager , excellent ground, incredibly supportive owner , awful scum fans ! We only share one thing with them .... we too have a manager ! Wash your filthy mouth out.
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Post by glengas on Apr 13, 2019 18:06:08 GMT
Decent manager , excellent ground, incredibly supportive owner , awful scum fans ! We only share one thing with them .... we too have a manager ! They have scum fans, but I know quite a few decent ones. I would like to say we have a 100# fantastic fans base of decent people, but reading the Rovers Facebook pages in the last week alone shows that’s certainly not the case.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 13, 2019 18:25:24 GMT
Not sure why you think the best post on here is one praising city. You'd probably have more fun reading OTIB. The fact is, they have spent enough to get promoted to the Prem several times over, and fortunately for us, they have, so far, failed. I don't read OTIB. I think Gashead 1981 is absolutely right in what he says. Maybe it is praise for them, but at least unlike most on here he is level headed enough to acknowledge the strides they have made while we continue to be in the dark ages. Remember DC's infrastructure comments? None of us like it, but they are years ahead of us. Years. They are huge spenders in comparison to us, but in comparison to their rivals in the Championship, far less so. If they weren't BCFC82 but a club from say, the north of England, we'd be saying how well they'd done to be competing with all those 'big' clubs. I hope to God they don't go up as it would inevitably damage us, but I can acknowledge their progress and to a point, achievements they have made over the last two or three years. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with that. All I meant was that if reading about how brilliant city are is the best post you've ever read, you might get more appropriate reading material on OTIB. Or maybe a Lansdown Sports Division press release.
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