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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 29, 2019 16:04:30 GMT
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Post by pirate on May 29, 2019 16:09:06 GMT
As I posted previously. Bristol Rovers are not the only EFL side to have not submitted their accounts on time are they? "No. Bury, Oldham, and Blackpool. If you take a look at the other clubs who have not submitted their accounts they are clubs which we might politely call 'clubs in crisis.' Clubs that have had issues in terms of winding up orders, county court judgements, failure to pay players, so it is not a gang I would particularly like to be part of. "If you take a look at the Championship there are two clubs which have failed to do that in Sheffield Wednesday and Bolton. Bolton are in administration and Sheffield Wednesday are alleged to have sold their ground to an unusual company by the owner to circumnavigate financial fair play, so both of those clubs have got a cloud over them at the moment. "It is a select group and you judge a man by the company he keeps, and this is not company I would like to be associated with if I was doing nothing wrong and had nothing to hide. "That is the concern. www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/football-finance-specialist-explains-what-2919150
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Post by Icegas on May 29, 2019 16:19:24 GMT
Whichever way you look at it the whole situation is a mess and very unprofessional. Hopefully be resolved asap. Im never a happy clapper nor just negative towards our boards actions for the sake of it ( be it Dunford,Higgs and wael...) But something stinks to high heaven here.And has since we got promotion to L1.They thought the UWE was a done deal and then could turn us into a championship/maybe premier club easy. I feel they lost interest and are just keeping us afloat until they get a new buyer and running us like you deal with your ex wife when seeing the kids. The Taylor situation,the training ground,The UWE BS,hell facts are they cant park a Dam butchers truck on the east terrice for months and plug un a giant tv...(from pictures of it looks pretty average anyway.) Now this..Sorry something fishy is going on and I want new owners in ASAP.
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Post by Colyton Gas on May 29, 2019 16:35:01 GMT
We seem to have loads of excuses why things don't get done.UWE,not paying for the fence around the redundant Colony,Colony itself TV Screen etc.Make good politicians!!!! No wonder DC got to the end of his tether and the ,'We can't say due to A Confidentiality agreement' is almost as embarrassing as having tents for stands. Their total lack of any constructive communication isn't good enough. Remember coming down to campaign for the planning permission cause for UWE which was granted and when Mr Hamer stated funding wasn't an issue ,I wrongly assumed we were home and dry.All those impressive new Board members soon left but we do have the impressive family stand so must realise that we should be positive that Mr Hamers claim of moving into The Colony by May 2019!!! still has two days left so too soon to claim that was another Politicians hot air failed promise!!!!!!. Supporter's Survey's simply don't cut it for me Up here the NW Counties League are upping their facilities for clubs and my fear is that we will be told the Mem is no longer fit for purpose.Disabled and visitors facilities are Dickensian in comparison to Non League clubs near me like ;Telford & Nantwich etc.As I have stated previously,every season at our first home game ,I look around the Mem and wonder what will improve over the next 12 months.Every year the answer is the same.
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Post by pirate49 on May 29, 2019 16:42:36 GMT
We really do seem to be in a bad place. Are there no words of reassurance the board can give us?!
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Post by aghast on May 29, 2019 17:45:49 GMT
All talk of the Colony seems to have vanished now. The local wildlife can sleep easy.
Presumably the land is increasing in value, or the owners would have offloaded something they have no use for.
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Post by lastminutewinner on May 29, 2019 17:54:48 GMT
We really do seem to be in a bad place. Are there no words of reassurance the board can give us?!
No but they can take a good selfie with A-listers. His last one was with a genie, I wonder if he wished someone would take us off his hands?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 19:28:24 GMT
Like the majority on here, I suspect, I don't know how serious this is. It seems that it is something easily sorted by filing the accounts now.
But that's not the point. Even if it is a minor infringement (in which case surely it shouldn't have happened in the first place), what it most definitely does do is paint our club in a poor light. Again.
We're currently competing for business with them lot down the road and, irrespective of what divisions we are in, we are losing hands down. While they put on high profile, money spinning concerts or stage lucrative World Cup villages, we struggle to put up a tent, mow a training field, or even erect a screen that I'm not even convinced we need.
This is a great, great club. But it seems the only positive thing coming out of it at the moment is the Community Trust, which continues to do a job worthy of the club. I supported the owners when they came in but have now lost patience. Whether this is serious or not, it cannot make good business sense to run it in such a way that we invite such negative publicity, particularly at a time when we are fighting a battle for (sorry to use the word) customers.
I would love to be proved wrong but quite frankly, the quicker this lot sell up to someone who can run an effective, customer centric business, the better.
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Post by glengas on May 29, 2019 20:11:28 GMT
“Shoddiness, lack of organisation or professional management”. Sorry, doesn’t fill me with any confidence to how the club is being run even if it is just a small fine.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 21:19:28 GMT
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Post by pirate on May 29, 2019 21:36:06 GMT
Fruit Loop
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Post by knowall on May 29, 2019 21:50:35 GMT
We seem to have loads of excuses why things don't get done.UWE,not paying for the fence around the redundant Colony,Colony itself TV Screen etc.Make good politicians!!!! No wonder DC got to the end of his tether and the ,'We can't say due to A Confidentiality agreement' is almost as embarrassing as having tents for stands. Their total lack of any constructive communication isn't good enough. Remember coming down to campaign for the planning permission cause for UWE which was granted and when Mr Hamer stated funding wasn't an issue ,I wrongly assumed we were home and dry.All those impressive new Board members soon left but we do have the impressive family stand so must realise that we should be positive that Mr Hamers claim of moving into The Colony by May 2019!!! still has two days left so too soon to claim that was another Politicians hot air failed promise!!!!!!. Supporter's Survey's simply don't cut it for me Up here the NW Counties League are upping their facilities for clubs and my fear is that we will be told the Mem is no longer fit for purpose.Disabled and visitors facilities are Dickensian in comparison to Non League clubs near me like ;Telford & Nantwich etc.As I have stated previously,every season at our first home game ,I look around the Mem and wonder what will improve over the next 12 months.Every year the answer is the same. What an excellent summary staffordshiregas, I do hope you will be at the AGM to lock horns (as I will) with the currently mute Wael Al-Qadi.
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Post by Captain Jayho on May 29, 2019 22:00:32 GMT
All talk of the Colony seems to have vanished now. The local wildlife can sleep easy. Presumably the land is increasing in value, or the owners would have offloaded something they have no use for. To offload something you need to have a buyer. Given this land is presumably not zoned residential or commercial I can't imagine there is a queue of buyers lining up.
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Post by knowall on May 29, 2019 22:14:01 GMT
All talk of the Colony seems to have vanished now. The local wildlife can sleep easy. Presumably the land is increasing in value, or the owners would have offloaded something they have no use for. To offload something you need to have a buyer. Given this land is presumably not zoned residential or commercial I can't imagine there is a queue of buyers lining up. a few chickens and ducks and maybe a pig or two - what a wonderful prospect for the use of this valuable? land
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Post by mehewmagic on May 29, 2019 22:29:16 GMT
Whichever way you look at it the whole situation is a mess and very unprofessional. Hopefully be resolved asap. That's the issue here. Obviously there is no striking off, no lack of accounts, and just a small fine, but it's just unprofessional. I volunteer with / work with charities & it's so similar to filing your charity returns. It's a pain but someone has to do it, and has to do it by a certain (quite generous) date. Anyone who does not meet those dates stands out and it looks shoddy.
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Post by knowall on May 29, 2019 22:36:12 GMT
Whichever way you look at it the whole situation is a mess and very unprofessional. Hopefully be resolved asap. That's the issue here. Obviously there is no striking off, no lack of accounts, and just a small fine, but it's just unprofessional. I volunteer with / work with charities & it's so similar to filing your charity returns. It's a pain but someone has to do and had to do it by a certain (quite generous) date. Anyone who does not meet those dates stands out and it looks shoddy. and in the case of a professional Company with professional advisers can it be dismissed as 'shoddy'? or pure and simple crap?
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Post by mehewmagic on May 29, 2019 22:40:43 GMT
We seem to have loads of excuses why things don't get done.UWE,not paying for the fence around the redundant Colony,Colony itself TV Screen etc.Make good politicians!!!! No wonder DC got to the end of his tether and the ,'We can't say due to A Confidentiality agreement' is almost as embarrassing as having tents for stands. Their total lack of any constructive communication isn't good enough. Remember coming down to campaign for the planning permission cause for UWE which was granted and when Mr Hamer stated funding wasn't an issue ,I wrongly assumed we were home and dry.All those impressive new Board members soon left but we do have the impressive family stand so must realise that we should be positive that Mr Hamers claim of moving into The Colony by May 2019!!! still has two days left so too soon to claim that was another Politicians hot air failed promise!!!!!!. Supporter's Survey's simply don't cut it for me Up here the NW Counties League are upping their facilities for clubs and my fear is that we will be told the Mem is no longer fit for purpose.Disabled and visitors facilities are Dickensian in comparison to Non League clubs near me like ;Telford & Nantwich etc.As I have stated previously,every season at our first home game ,I look around the Mem and wonder what will improve over the next 12 months.Every year the answer is the same. Nail on head. Unsuccessful people always have a list of excuses. Re DC, I've said it for ages. He REALLY had passion to get us into the championship and really thought he could. If, just for one second, people can divorce the downturn in football results from DC himself, they will know that DC left because he was at the end of his tether over expectations, promises, plans etc. Hard to know exactly how far that affected results etc (and of course I'm not suggesting he and his tactics were perfect) but there is no doubt that he let it get to him and the position was untenable.
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Post by mehewmagic on May 29, 2019 22:42:17 GMT
That's the issue here. Obviously there is no striking off, no lack of accounts, and just a small fine, but it's just unprofessional. I volunteer with / work with charities & it's so similar to filing your charity returns. It's a pain but someone has to do and had to do it by a certain (quite generous) date. Anyone who does not meet those dates stands out and it looks shoddy. and in the case of a professional Company with professional advisers can it be dismissed as 'shoddy'? or pure and simple crap? The truth shall set you free. But will we ever see it?
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Post by womble on May 29, 2019 22:44:45 GMT
All talk of the Colony seems to have vanished now. The local wildlife can sleep easy. Presumably the land is increasing in value, or the owners would have offloaded something they have no use for. To offload something you need to have a buyer. Given this land is presumably not zoned residential or commercial I can't imagine there is a queue of buyers lining up. It's in the green belt and has permission for use as sports pitches. Chances of permission for anything else are extremely slim. I think you're quite right and there will not be a queue of buyers, for land with little potential for other than what we thought it had been bought for.
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Post by knowall on May 29, 2019 22:44:53 GMT
We seem to have loads of excuses why things don't get done.UWE,not paying for the fence around the redundant Colony,Colony itself TV Screen etc.Make good politicians!!!! No wonder DC got to the end of his tether and the ,'We can't say due to A Confidentiality agreement' is almost as embarrassing as having tents for stands. Their total lack of any constructive communication isn't good enough. Remember coming down to campaign for the planning permission cause for UWE which was granted and when Mr Hamer stated funding wasn't an issue ,I wrongly assumed we were home and dry.All those impressive new Board members soon left but we do have the impressive family stand so must realise that we should be positive that Mr Hamers claim of moving into The Colony by May 2019!!! still has two days left so too soon to claim that was another Politicians hot air failed promise!!!!!!. Supporter's Survey's simply don't cut it for me Up here the NW Counties League are upping their facilities for clubs and my fear is that we will be told the Mem is no longer fit for purpose.Disabled and visitors facilities are Dickensian in comparison to Non League clubs near me like ;Telford & Nantwich etc.As I have stated previously,every season at our first home game ,I look around the Mem and wonder what will improve over the next 12 months.Every year the answer is the same. Nail on head. Unsuccessful people always have a list of excuses. Re DC, I've said it for ages. He REALLY had passion to get us into the championship and really thought he could. If, just for one second, people can divorce the downturn in football results from DC himself, they will know that DC left because he was at the end of his tether over expectations, promises, plans etc. Hard to know exactly how far that affected results etc (and of course I'm not suggesting he and his tactics were perfect) but there is no doubt that he let it get to him and the position was untenable. Had he been older and wiser he might have been more patient and still in the job
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