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Jan 20, 2020 5:54:27 GMT
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Post by gasify on Jan 20, 2020 5:54:27 GMT
Its almost as if someone with an agenda has created multiple accounts over the last 18 months with the intention of discrediting the owners with lies and false claims. Seriously. As a moderator, is that what you are seeing? Is it based on email address or IP address? Is it the clubs email/IP address or a personal one?
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Jan 20, 2020 5:59:16 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 20, 2020 5:59:16 GMT
It's an educated guess.
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Jan 20, 2020 6:06:41 GMT
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Post by gasify on Jan 20, 2020 6:06:41 GMT
In the same way that we ask to a better understanding from ITKers. Is the educated guess from what you are seeing in the moderator logs or from what you are hearing from other people? Do you know what those 'duplicate' accounts are? Can you reveal them? It would be in the public interest.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 20, 2020 6:22:39 GMT
In the same way that we ask to a better understanding from ITKers. Is the educated guess from what you are seeing in the moderator logs or from what you are hearing from other people? Do you know what those 'duplicate' accounts are? Can you reveal them? It would be in the public interest. I believe that at least 2 accounts in the past are duplicates and have been used to spread rumours. I have strong suspicions of others. It is something that has been brought to my attention in the past, which further backed up what I already thought. I have not used any mod access to gain this information and nor would I. We do run IP checks when accepting new members. This consists of little more than checking if the IP has been previously banned or if they are on a known list and is a built in tool on Proboards. I would not reveal anyones email address or identity, it would be wrong to do so. I will try to clarify.... My personal suspicion is that there are duplicate accounts on this forum and that they appear to have similar agendas. I feel it would be an inappropriate abuse of my Mod powers to confirm my suspicions.
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Jan 20, 2020 7:02:33 GMT
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Post by gasify on Jan 20, 2020 7:02:33 GMT
In the same way that we ask to a better understanding from ITKers. Is the educated guess from what you are seeing in the moderator logs or from what you are hearing from other people? Do you know what those 'duplicate' accounts are? Can you reveal them? It would be in the public interest. I believe that at least 2 accounts in the past are duplicates and have been used to spread rumours. I have strong suspicions of others. It is something that has been brought to my attention in the past, which further backed up what I already thought. I have not used any mod access to gain this information and nor would I. We do run IP checks when accepting new members. This consists of little more than checking if the IP has been previously banned or if they are on a known list and is a built in tool on Proboards. I would not reveal anyones email address or identity, it would be wrong to do so. I will try to clarify.... My personal suspicion is that there are duplicate accounts on this forum and that they appear to have similar agendas. I feel it would be an inappropriate abuse of my Mod powers to confirm my suspicions. Why don't we have a one account rule? In that case, it would be part of the moderation process. In fact, it all depends on what is meant by moderation really. You could say that this person is deliberately Trolling the rest of us. Surely that should be a banning offence?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 20, 2020 7:38:10 GMT
I believe that at least 2 accounts in the past are duplicates and have been used to spread rumours. I have strong suspicions of others. It is something that has been brought to my attention in the past, which further backed up what I already thought. I have not used any mod access to gain this information and nor would I. We do run IP checks when accepting new members. This consists of little more than checking if the IP has been previously banned or if they are on a known list and is a built in tool on Proboards. I would not reveal anyones email address or identity, it would be wrong to do so. I will try to clarify.... My personal suspicion is that there are duplicate accounts on this forum and that they appear to have similar agendas. I feel it would be an inappropriate abuse of my Mod powers to confirm my suspicions. Why don't we have a one account rule? In that case, it would be part of the moderation process. In fact, it all depends on what is meant by moderation really. You could say that this person is deliberately Trolling the rest of us. Surely that should be a banning offence? It would be impossible to do that for a few reasons. Families may share multiple accounts using a single IP address. Accounts can be created on any device on any network or Wifi, again making it difficult to monitor. Without doing forensic analysis it's very difficult to prove actual wrongdoing. I know that no everyone agrees, but as a Mod team we do have a duty to allow everyone to Express their opinions within reason and a lot of things get said on BOTH sides of the argument. Some of the accounts have been called out by others on here and have not been used in a while. I raised my suspicions based on why people were questioning GGMI for bumping multiple old threads. I'm not suggesting the OP is a duplicate account, but I am raising awareness that it has been an issue in the past and that in my opinion not everything said on here can be trusted!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 20, 2020 8:20:41 GMT
After Saturday's car crash of an interview, I'm not sure if we need anybody with an agenda to discredit Wael as his own CEO is doing a good enough job already.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 20, 2020 8:38:42 GMT
After Saturday's car crash of an interview, I'm not sure if we need anybody with an agenda to discredit Wael as his own CEO is doing a good enough job already. I think that's fair. I've said lots of times I think that some people who have been leaking and stirring the pot have done more harm than good because I have become very wary about a lot of the negative claims now.
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Jan 20, 2020 8:41:35 GMT
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Post by teanbiscuits on Jan 20, 2020 8:41:35 GMT
In the same way that we ask to a better understanding from ITKers. Is the educated guess from what you are seeing in the moderator logs or from what you are hearing from other people? Do you know what those 'duplicate' accounts are? Can you reveal them? It would be in the public interest. I believe that at least 2 accounts in the past are duplicates and have been used to spread rumours. I have strong suspicions of others. It is something that has been brought to my attention in the past, which further backed up what I already thought. I have not used any mod access to gain this information and nor would I. We do run IP checks when accepting new members. This consists of little more than checking if the IP has been previously banned or if they are on a known list and is a built in tool on Proboards. I would not reveal anyones email address or identity, it would be wrong to do so. I will try to clarify.... My personal suspicion is that there are duplicate accounts on this forum and that they appear to have similar agendas. I feel it would be an inappropriate abuse of my Mod powers to confirm my suspicions. I praise the work mods do on all forums but doesn't it need to be done on hard facts and not guesses and assumptions?
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Jan 20, 2020 8:44:58 GMT
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jan 20, 2020 8:44:58 GMT
I believe that at least 2 accounts in the past are duplicates and have been used to spread rumours. I have strong suspicions of others. It is something that has been brought to my attention in the past, which further backed up what I already thought. I have not used any mod access to gain this information and nor would I. We do run IP checks when accepting new members. This consists of little more than checking if the IP has been previously banned or if they are on a known list and is a built in tool on Proboards. I would not reveal anyones email address or identity, it would be wrong to do so. I will try to clarify.... My personal suspicion is that there are duplicate accounts on this forum and that they appear to have similar agendas. I feel it would be an inappropriate abuse of my Mod powers to confirm my suspicions. I praise the work mods do on all forums but doesn't it need to be done on hard facts and not guesses and assumptions? Yes. Thats why we haven't banned anyone because of it.
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Jan 20, 2020 9:56:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 9:56:06 GMT
In the same way that we ask to a better understanding from ITKers. Is the educated guess from what you are seeing in the moderator logs or from what you are hearing from other people? Do you know what those 'duplicate' accounts are? Can you reveal them? It would be in the public interest. I believe that at least 2 accounts in the past are duplicates and have been used to spread rumours. I have strong suspicions of others. It is something that has been brought to my attention in the past, which further backed up what I already thought. I have not used any mod access to gain this information and nor would I. We do run IP checks when accepting new members. This consists of little more than checking if the IP has been previously banned or if they are on a known list and is a built in tool on Proboards. I would not reveal anyones email address or identity, it would be wrong to do so. I will try to clarify.... My personal suspicion is that there are duplicate accounts on this forum and that they appear to have similar agendas. I feel it would be an inappropriate abuse of my Mod powers to confirm my suspicions. Remember mad dog.....who could that have been I wonder 🤔
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Jan 20, 2020 9:58:00 GMT
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Post by pirate on Jan 20, 2020 9:58:00 GMT
I believe that at least 2 accounts in the past are duplicates and have been used to spread rumours. I have strong suspicions of others. It is something that has been brought to my attention in the past, which further backed up what I already thought. I have not used any mod access to gain this information and nor would I. We do run IP checks when accepting new members. This consists of little more than checking if the IP has been previously banned or if they are on a known list and is a built in tool on Proboards. I would not reveal anyones email address or identity, it would be wrong to do so. I will try to clarify.... My personal suspicion is that there are duplicate accounts on this forum and that they appear to have similar agendas. I feel it would be an inappropriate abuse of my Mod powers to confirm my suspicions. Remember mad dog.....who could that have been I wonder 🤔 Martin Allen is a gaschatter?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 20, 2020 11:02:44 GMT
You do realise ggmi that to the average user (that's kind of the other 99.99% of us) that you come across as a bit obsessed.... Lucky that I don't care what 99.99% of people think. This was bumped because this poster had claimed to know of some news, potentially good news that we were due to find out by September. However, now has started a thread saying he has had enough. So I wonder what he knows/what has changed?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 11:17:51 GMT
You do realise ggmi that to the average user (that's kind of the other 99.99% of us) that you come across as a bit obsessed.... Lucky that I don't care what 99.99% of people think. This was bumped because this poster had claimed to know of some news, potentially good news that we were due to find out by September. However, now has started a thread saying he has had enough. So I wonder what he knows/what has changed? You need to spank one off. It releases frustration. X
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 11:22:05 GMT
Lucky that I don't care what 99.99% of people think. This was bumped because this poster had claimed to know of some news, potentially good news that we were due to find out by September. However, now has started a thread saying he has had enough. So I wonder what he knows/what has changed? You need to spank one off. It releases frustration. X Bolders - I read last week that every time you perform some self love it can add five minutes to your lifespan. I've done a quick calculation, and by my reckoning I'm now immortal !
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Jan 20, 2020 11:23:38 GMT
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 20, 2020 11:23:38 GMT
Lucky that I don't care what 99.99% of people think. This was bumped because this poster had claimed to know of some news, potentially good news that we were due to find out by September. However, now has started a thread saying he has had enough. So I wonder what he knows/what has changed? You need to spank one off. It releases frustration. X I wonder why some people are on this forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2020 11:32:01 GMT
You need to spank one off. It releases frustration. X I wonder why some people are on this forum. You should know dear..your never off it.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 20, 2020 11:34:00 GMT
I wonder why some people are on this forum. You should know dear..your never off it. You're*
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Jan 20, 2020 12:30:19 GMT
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 20, 2020 12:30:19 GMT
I believe that at least 2 accounts in the past are duplicates and have been used to spread rumours. I have strong suspicions of others. It is something that has been brought to my attention in the past, which further backed up what I already thought. I have not used any mod access to gain this information and nor would I. We do run IP checks when accepting new members. This consists of little more than checking if the IP has been previously banned or if they are on a known list and is a built in tool on Proboards. I would not reveal anyones email address or identity, it would be wrong to do so. I will try to clarify.... My personal suspicion is that there are duplicate accounts on this forum and that they appear to have similar agendas. I feel it would be an inappropriate abuse of my Mod powers to confirm my suspicions. Remember mad dog.....who could that have been I wonder 🤔 We haven’t seen UTG12 or Blue Camel for a while either.... But then horrible pops up and posts almost the same information written in the same format...
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Post by Gassy on Jan 20, 2020 13:01:03 GMT
Remember mad dog.....who could that have been I wonder 🤔 We haven’t seen UTG12 or Blue Camel for a while either.... But then horrible pops up and posts almost the same information written in the same format... This inspired me to do some quick reading. Blue Camel complimented station an awful lot. Writing how station is right multiple times. It was also station who revealed the companies involved in the FM (in French) "taken from another site", but from a site that was never shown/proven. Blue Camel has also posted in French once or twice. They've both also posted 'be careful what you wish for' a few times & neither of them ever really comment about the game specifically. I reckon Hamer has never left this forum..
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