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Post by joebananas67 on Jun 9, 2019 15:27:54 GMT
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Post by Jomo on Jun 9, 2019 15:33:57 GMT
I think that would be unlikely. The National League are far less forgiving than the EFL, and I don't think you can compare Gateshead's situation to Bolton's, although Bolton are obviously in a very bad way too.
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Post by rex on Jun 9, 2019 17:07:41 GMT
There is a precedent. Swindon were originally demoted 2 divisions after their misdemeanours in the 90s, although it was then changed to 1 division, meaning they stayed where they were. This of course led to the 'Going up, going down, going up' chant when we played them at their place the following season  |
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Post by z1zou on Jun 9, 2019 17:11:38 GMT
The only way I can see them getting any further punishment is if they can't fulfill fixtures. Then you're talking out of the football league all together.
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Post by hollyhillgas on Jun 9, 2019 19:31:51 GMT
With regard Gateshead. Aldershot retain National League status. Wonder if they would like to keep Mensah?
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Post by gaelgas on Jun 10, 2019 6:10:55 GMT
I've got a feeling the rule now is no reprieve for relegated clubs so if that's the case either Mansfield, who were 4th or more likely Newport, would get promoted. I may well be wrong but I seem to remember reading it on Bedford Town's fb page when they were explaining why they were going to play their play-off game v Corby even though because of their ppg they wouldn't have gone up unless a team went out of business then an extra promotion place would trickle down because of 'no reprieve for relegated clubs'. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 10, 2019 7:15:55 GMT
Surely it's more likely Bury completely fold than Bolton get a double relegation, which seems a non starter to me?
Although I see the present Bury owner has now proposed he says the club's debtors 20p in the pound to avoid the club going into Administration. A nice bit of business if he pulls that off!
What happened to Bolton's change of failing to fulfill their fixtures, has that been dropped or so they still face a further points deduction?
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 10, 2019 10:58:01 GMT
Don’t Bolton need to be in administration before the EFL act? Even then eg. Blackpool and Coventry, the EFL sometimes seem to amend their rules through an extraordinary EFL Meeting. Perhaps the context is the driving factor. I’ve said it before but if I was a Bolton fan I’d want us to go into admin, take the hit, points deduction and the possibility of another relegation just to get out of the cycle of poor owners and financial mis management. Yes, it would be tough but it’s such a basket case I wonder if anyone sensible would take it on. Perhaps even potential owners are waiting for them to go into admin so that it becomes a more attractive option and they can start again. Either way the poor fans will suffer but sometimes you have to take a longer view. Just as we did at Rovers, with different circumstances I know.
UTG!
ps. I think clubs have to show a bond of money at the beginning of the season as a guarantee to “see them through the season”. Perhaps Bolton won’t be able to do this and this could trigger something this summer. I’m not sure about that but I think so.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 10, 2019 12:57:53 GMT
Pretty sure Bolton have already appointed Administrators which I assume means they are in Admin?
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 10, 2019 13:04:54 GMT
Pretty sure Bolton have already appointed Administrators which I assume means they are in Admin? Ok, thanks Topper, obviously missed that! That’s probably good for them long term. I guess we have to wait and see in that case. I presume that a points deduction will follow after the next EFL meeting. UTG! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 14:15:27 GMT
Already in place
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Post by lpgas on Jun 11, 2019 18:39:55 GMT
Don’t Bolton need to be in administration before the EFL act? Even then eg. Blackpool and Coventry, the EFL sometimes seem to amend their rules through an extraordinary EFL Meeting. Perhaps the context is the driving factor. I’ve said it before but if I was a Bolton fan I’d want us to go into admin, take the hit, points deduction and the possibility of another relegation just to get out of the cycle of poor owners and financial mis management. Yes, it would be tough but it’s such a basket case I wonder if anyone sensible would take it on. Perhaps even potential owners are waiting for them to go into admin so that it becomes a more attractive option and they can start again. Either way the poor fans will suffer but sometimes you have to take a longer view. Just as we did at Rovers, with different circumstances I know. UTG! ps. I think clubs have to show a bond of money at the beginning of the season as a guarantee to “see them through the season”. Perhaps Bolton won’t be able to do this and this could trigger something this summer. I’m not sure about that but I think so. When you go up in to the Championship you have to give the EFL £5 million as a bond, so, I suppose that is coming back their way |
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 11, 2019 19:29:46 GMT
Ok, thanks lpgas. I presume then they get that back or have done already but have to give a lower bond for League 1. Either way, a long way to go for them yet.
UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 14, 2019 11:32:20 GMT
Don’t Bolton need to be in administration before the EFL act? Even then eg. Blackpool and Coventry, the EFL sometimes seem to amend their rules through an extraordinary EFL Meeting. Perhaps the context is the driving factor. I’ve said it before but if I was a Bolton fan I’d want us to go into admin, take the hit, points deduction and the possibility of another relegation just to get out of the cycle of poor owners and financial mis management. Yes, it would be tough but it’s such a basket case I wonder if anyone sensible would take it on. Perhaps even potential owners are waiting for them to go into admin so that it becomes a more attractive option and they can start again. Either way the poor fans will suffer but sometimes you have to take a longer view. Just as we did at Rovers, with different circumstances I know. UTG! ps. I think clubs have to show a bond of money at the beginning of the season as a guarantee to “see them through the season”. Perhaps Bolton won’t be able to do this and this could trigger something this summer. I’m not sure about that but I think so. When you go up in to the Championship you have to give the EFL £5 million as a bond, so, I suppose that is coming back their way Do you have a link to confirm that as I've never heard of it, plus what happens if a club like Yeovil or Burton couldn't raise the money for the bond? I assume if it was paid it will go to the creditors of the old club not the new owners anyway. |
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