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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 21, 2019 17:37:11 GMT
Radio Stoke has a daily update on Vale,Crewe and Stoke.To-day the Crewe manager said his club's excellent training facilities (and they are top notch with all weather pitches,etc)_ are a big factor in attracting players. So far though they've only signed one from Northampton so not sure it counts as much as wages. Unfortunately for Crewe mud sticks, they must be an hard sell for any agent at present. Although surely having a decent training ground leads to a better performance on match days not just something to attract future players?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 17:57:54 GMT
Radio Stoke has a daily update on Vale,Crewe and Stoke.To-day the Crewe manager said his club's excellent training facilities (and they are top notch with all weather pitches,etc)_ are a big factor in attracting players. So far though they've only signed one from Northampton so not sure it counts as much as wages. Unfortunately for Crewe mud sticks, they must be an hard sell for any agent at present. Although surely having a decent training ground leads to a better performance on match days not just something to attract future players? To be fair the Crewe 'success' was based on bringing young players through and then flogging them. They've done quite well out of doing that, and decent training facilities obviously help. What was going to be the major feature of Wael's 'evolution not revolution' again?
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Post by buckaroo on Jun 21, 2019 19:00:37 GMT
Unfortunately for Crewe mud sticks, they must be an hard sell for any agent at present. Although surely having a decent training ground leads to a better performance on match days not just something to attract future players? To be fair the Crewe 'success' was based on bringing young players through and then flogging them. They've done quite well out of doing that, and decent training facilities obviously help. What was going to be the major feature of Wael's 'evolution not revolution' again? The flogging part probably counts as sexual abuse now, so wouldn’t be allowed. There’s no discipline these days.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 19:06:57 GMT
Unfortunately for Crewe mud sticks, they must be an hard sell for any agent at present. Although surely having a decent training ground leads to a better performance on match days not just something to attract future players? To be fair the Crewe 'success' was based on bringing young players through and then flogging them. They've done quite well out of doing that, and decent training facilities obviously help. What was going to be the major feature of Wael's 'evolution not revolution' again? A strong tent.
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Post by Gastafari on Jun 21, 2019 19:10:21 GMT
Add to that Huddersfield, Reading, Wigan, Doncaster and Rotherham all those clubs averages have increased and continued to be a lot bigger since they'ved moved into bigger and better stadiums. I think thats enough evidence to base it on. Need to check the stats mate. Huddersfield - i'll give you that Wigan 4,000 to 7,000 (fair enough) then back down to 6,700 and 5,800 rising to 11,500 - small matter of promotion to the Premier league. Donny season before Keepmoat 6,100 next season 7,700 2009 11,900 why ? first season back in 2nd tier. Last season 8,100. Rotherham played at an athletics stadium in Sheffield for years before NY was built.They have done pretty well since albeit up and down. All i'm saying is gates rarely double and if they do they are only sustained with success on the pitch. Wigan all through the 80s and 90s were barely averaging 2k, then last season at old ground 4k, then straight up to 7k in a new stadium. 20 years later they're now averaging 11k. The same goes for Hull, Brighton, Swansea etc I don't think we'll instantly just double our attendances in a new stadium, that'll mean we'll be averaging 17k, cant see that, well we might first few games, if its a successful season then possibly but if we're still mid table League 1 then no chance, I still feel we'll get 12-13k though. If we progress like Reading, Hull, Brighton and Swansea where the new stadium coincided with success on the pitch, then I think our crowds will pretty much double like all those did. The evidence is there to suggest that with success, winning Football and promotions that crowds do double in new stadiums.
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Post by ChiefStateGAS on Jun 21, 2019 19:18:31 GMT
Really! Honestly that has left me speechless, well nearly. Are you sure it’s not a ****-take? Blimey, you couldn’t make that up! After 22 years I wouldn’t fancy eating anything from it. Best to knock it down and put a temporary hut/ shack there......or even a tent. UTG! No I walked around it, it needs a new roof, so may cost a bit to sort, but I did say to the club if it was restored they could move in there and get rid of some of the rented portacabins which could in the long run save money. But it depends on how long we stay at the stadium whether it is worth doing. Of course we could just put bars across the front of it, then any sh**thead that comes into the stadium to cause trouble (graffiti), could be thrown in there and left to rot. Yep, certainly needs a new roof! With a hole this size, surely the weather damage is extensive and therefore not worth the cost to fix it? Attachment Deleted
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Post by keygas on Jun 21, 2019 19:32:51 GMT
No I walked around it, it needs a new roof, so may cost a bit to sort, but I did say to the club if it was restored they could move in there and get rid of some of the rented portacabins which could in the long run save money. But it depends on how long we stay at the stadium whether it is worth doing. Of course we could just put bars across the front of it, then any sh**thead that comes into the stadium to cause trouble (graffiti), could be thrown in there and left to rot. Yep, certainly needs a new roof! With a hole this size, surely the weather damage is extensive and therefore not worth the cost to fix it? Just wondering if the building was knocked down, which by the look of it wouldn’t take much doing would it open up a pedestrian access onto Strathmore road which would be quite handy for people who park in the surrounding roads in that area?
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Post by aghast on Jun 21, 2019 20:34:10 GMT
Yep, certainly needs a new roof! With a hole this size, surely the weather damage is extensive and therefore not worth the cost to fix it? Just wondering if the building was knocked down, which by the look of it wouldn’t take much doing would it open up a pedestrian access onto Strathmore road which would be quite handy for people who park in the surrounding roads in that area? It's probably got asbestos in the roof, concrete rot in the walls and bolders living under the floor, so it might be a plan.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 20:46:25 GMT
Yep, certainly needs a new roof! With a hole this size, surely the weather damage is extensive and therefore not worth the cost to fix it? Just wondering if the building was knocked down, which by the look of it wouldn’t take much doing would it open up a pedestrian access onto Strathmore road which would be quite handy for people who park in the surrounding roads in that area? ‘Tis the plan
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 21, 2019 21:07:42 GMT
Radio Stoke has a daily update on Vale,Crewe and Stoke.To-day the Crewe manager said his club's excellent training facilities (and they are top notch with all weather pitches,etc)_ are a big factor in attracting players. So far though they've only signed one from Northampton so not sure it counts as much as wages. Unfortunately for Crewe mud sticks, they must be an hard sell for any agent at present. Although surely having a decent training ground leads to a better performance on match days not just something to attract future players? . Obviously you need a half decent pitch to train on. We have that. The lawns has even won awards. The only problem is it isn't ours, but that won't effect how the player's train on it. It's probally average for our level. GC said some championship clubs train at worst facilities, including Sheffield Wednesday.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 21, 2019 21:58:06 GMT
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Post by yattongas on Jun 21, 2019 22:51:10 GMT
I guess it all depends on where you’re hoping to site a new ground . An average cost doesn’t mean a lot really
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 22, 2019 7:13:45 GMT
I guess it all depends on where you’re hoping to site a new ground . An average cost doesn’t mean a lot really Assuming the analysis is completely genuine then I'd have thought it meant more than just plucking a figure out of thin air like most of us have been guilty of in the past.
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Post by wertongas on Jun 22, 2019 7:39:57 GMT
Far more difficult for Coventry to build a new stadium than us, they have no stadium or land to sell (we may well sell the colony and integrate a new training ground into the new stadium complex) and there owners have debts on the club of about 45 million.
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Post by hartcliffegas on Jun 22, 2019 8:20:53 GMT
Anyone got any idea of a ballpark figure for how much the mem & colony are worth?
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Post by tomylil on Jun 22, 2019 8:23:05 GMT
£52m ? That's us f**ked then !
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Post by tomylil on Jun 22, 2019 8:24:33 GMT
Far more difficult for Coventry to build a new stadium than us, they have no stadium or land to sell (we may well sell the colony and integrate a new training ground into the new stadium complex) and there owners have debts on the club of about 45 million. Our debt is getting close to the value of our assets.
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Post by aghast on Jun 22, 2019 8:51:17 GMT
Anyone got any idea of a ballpark figure for how much the mem & colony are worth? I'm guessing £22-25M for both if they have planning permission for housing.
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Post by wertongas on Jun 23, 2019 7:29:49 GMT
Yep, certainly needs a new roof! With a hole this size, surely the weather damage is extensive and therefore not worth the cost to fix it? Just wondering if the building was knocked down, which by the look of it wouldn’t take much doing would it open up a pedestrian access onto Strathmore road which would be quite handy for people who park in the surrounding roads in that area? The roof is made of a of a material similar to fibreglass, it and the supporting beams need replacing but the rest of the building is fine. It was interesting spending time with the club, it is clear that our new owners were struggling a bit and lacked experience with running the club and were fortunate that they had DC in charge and we got promotion when they first took over the club.But with the arrival of Martyn Starnes and TG now managing the stadium and with GC in charge of the team with his experience of league 1 and 2nd tier football, the club is now moving up a gear. The new shop,bars and electronic display screen and boards around the pitch income from the commercial side has increased hugely, we could have done with all this 20 years ago when we first moved to the Mem, the club wouldn't have struggled so much if it hadn't been left to stagnate. I always thought that we might be able to develop the Mem but it's location is poor. The design of the stadium stands is poor and we had a bit of a blip with getting two bespoke stands put in on the east side but with other improvements the ground is more welcoming now than some other lower league stadiums. Club seem confident that we will get a new stadium and GC says he wants to get players in that want to play in the Championship and expects us to be pushing for promotion (although most managers say that), I am more confident with our future now than I have been for some time.
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Post by Jomo on Jun 23, 2019 8:03:14 GMT
Just wondering if the building was knocked down, which by the look of it wouldn’t take much doing would it open up a pedestrian access onto Strathmore road which would be quite handy for people who park in the surrounding roads in that area? The roof is made of a of a material similar to fibreglass, it and the supporting beams need replacing but the rest of the building is fine. It was interesting spending time with the club, it is clear that our new owners were struggling a bit and lacked experience with running the club and were fortunate that they had DC in charge and we got promotion when they first took over the club.But with the arrival of Martyn Starnes and TG now managing the stadium and with GC in charge of the team with his experience of league 1 and 2nd tier football, the club is now moving up a gear. The new shop,bars and electronic display screen and boards around the pitch income from the commercial side has increased hugely, we could have done with all this 20 years ago when we first moved to the Mem, the club wouldn't have struggled so much if it hadn't been left to stagnate. I always thought that we might be able to develop the Mem but it's location is poor. The design of the stadium stands is poor and we had a bit of a blip with getting two bespoke stands put in on the east side but with other improvements the ground is more welcoming now than some other lower league stadiums. Club seem confident that we will get a new stadium and GC says he wants to get players in that want to play in the Championship and expects us to be pushing for promotion (although most managers say that), I am more confident with our future now than I have been for some time. As something of a pessimist since the UWE collapsed, I feel a little more optimistic since reading your posts. We've had too many setbacks for me to get carried away though, but TG seems to be making the best of his lot with us and I'm glad he's at our club. I still think the club have to drastically improve their communication, but I'm sure they've got that message loud and clear from the supporters questionnaire, which to be fair I thought was a very welcome initiative from the club. I was pleasantly surprised to get the link to fill that in, and it's a really positive step from the club.
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