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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 9:57:17 GMT
“I wish people would get behind us and support us a bit better than they are.” Ok, I've not listened to the interview so this bit may be out of context with the rest of it. However, asking Rovers fans to support the club better than they do is taking a liberty he has no right to take. 8000 people on a regular basis, enduring the same crap facilities we've always had, watching football that even his supporters (which I am) would not label as attractive, following away in great numbers and generally getting behind the team... If he's worried about a tiny percentage of people on here, which is anything but representative of the fan base as a whole, then he needs to get a grip. The fans do get behind this team, despite all the above. If things fo go badly then he may rue that statement. UTG
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Post by aforce on Jul 28, 2019 10:04:48 GMT
Is this actually him on Twitter or an article reposted there? Yes- negativity is too much. We've had far worse problems than needing a pacy winger to finish off an otherwise decent squad. There’s a 4-minute interview with GC on the club’s twitter. He essentially says that it feels like the club can’t win at the minute, and that the fanbase needs to support the club much better than it’s doing at the moment. It’s not the fans fault tho it’s the owners and there false promises and there habit of sitting on there thumbs while the club falls further and further behind where it should be
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Post by Gas1977 on Jul 28, 2019 10:07:17 GMT
“I wish people would get behind us and support us a bit better than they are.” I don’t think there’s much wrong with what he is saying. GC did a tremendous job last season keeping us in league one and I think he and the players deserve support. That said, I think the negativity surrounds off field matters more than anything. One day we are published as having one of the richest owners in England and the following day we are labelled as ‘cash-strapped’. What’s going on? And I think this post goes to the heart of the matter. we were promised a new stadium and training ground, desperately needed to put us on a par with other league 1 and most L 2 clubs, let alone getting us anywhere near the Sh1t and the tax-dodging, rosy- cheeked Lady Garden. We are variously told that were on the brink of major investment, that the family,want out, even some bollocks about a stadium on the Fruit Market site. What happens? Nothing. And so we prepare for another season at an antiquated shithole stadium with woooooo a big screen, which is approx one year late and will probably self destruct after a couple of months, if the other scoreboard is anything to go by. Its no wonder people feel negative, this club has so much potential just waiting to be unlocked. Please, FFS, someone find the key. im not ITK but I feel if WAQ and Co wanted out they would be looking at selling after this window. To give new owners a chance to be here for a couple months before the Jan window. Also surely if they sold now they’d get a better price as sadly a lot of people feel we will be in the sh** this year. Odds on all these rumours being bs?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 10:11:10 GMT
Not sure why people are wondering how he can know this. The negativity is everywhere, all over twitter, the forums, in the background murmur of the crowd. People think it's their right to whine like children about every aspect of the club, and it is, but they should also know these things filter through and affect the team. It's extremely disingenuous to spend all you time whining, and then to pretend there's no way the manager and the players can know about it. There’s an easy solution to that: win 4 of the first 6 games and prove that the recruitment over the summer was better than it looks. Simples.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 28, 2019 10:12:08 GMT
But how does he know there is negativity...he doesn't read this forum does he? Everyone reads the forums and social media. From the owners, through to staff, management team, players and through the U23s. So don’t kid yourselves to think they are all immune from what’s being said. At the moment we have a similar type of hostile negativity in the fan base that existed around the time we were relegated to L2, we know why, training ground, stadium et al but that will take care of itself in the next few months hopefully. If Knowall is right of course. On the football side I think we have to be realistic as to our expectations this season. In 2011 Trollope had assembled a side that didn’t perform and after he left we had players on high wages that couldn’t be moved on which in turn, hamstrung the next manager that came in. This is GCs position right now. Stuck with players that aren’t good enough but can’t move them because they are earning good money and no one else is prepared to match their wages, so we have them for another season at least until their contract is up. So he has to get by by coaching what we have as best we can and GC is absolutely right, We looked in far worse shape this time last year than we do now. The only thing that thankfully doesn’t exist right now is the internal infighting with players where the tail was wagging the dog. So let’s get behind the boys this year and cheer them on. We might be in for a surprise. But this year is a rebuilding year for the club and GC. He’s made a start, but won’t be able to finish it, either in this window or January. This time next year will be the GC side he wants. Not only that we have a great kit to play in and I’m looking forward to getting back to games.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 10:20:18 GMT
I have found the transition from great attacking football with good players to dreadful negative football with poor players difficult. I found the product on offer unwatchable last season. We got results under coughlan but in the same way that wycombe did last season. Sometimes i post in the style of our play.
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Post by baggins on Jul 28, 2019 10:37:19 GMT
I have found the transition from great attacking football with good players to dreadful negative football with poor players difficult. I found the product on offer unwatchable last season. We got results under coughlan but in the same way that wycombe did last season. Sometimes i post in the style of our play. GC had one job last season, keep us up. If that meant unwatchable style of play, so be it, much better than playing lovely to watch football and go down. It's a new Season, new players, let's go!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 28, 2019 10:42:36 GMT
Not sure why people are wondering how he can know this. The negativity is everywhere, all over twitter, the forums, in the background murmur of the crowd. People think it's their right to whine like children about every aspect of the club, and it is, but they should also know these things filter through and affect the team. It's extremely disingenuous to spend all you time whining, and then to pretend there's no way the manager and the players can know about it. There’s an easy solution to that: win 4 of the first 6 games and prove that the recruitment over the summer was better than it looks. Simples. You've hit the nail on the head with that comment, when we beat Wimbledon 3-2 in our first game under Buckle we were all behind him, it all went Pete Tong when we then started losing games. I wonder if GC's plea for support is down to him sensing that it's going to be another battle to stay up/win home games, as if we start off winning games the negativity will soon disappear and there will be no issues with the fans getting behind the players on the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 10:50:51 GMT
I have found the transition from great attacking football with good players to dreadful negative football with poor players difficult. I found the product on offer unwatchable last season. We got results under coughlan but in the same way that wycombe did last season. Sometimes i post in the style of our play. GC had one job last season, keep us up. If that meant unwatchable style of play, so be it, much better than playing lovely to watch football and go down. It's a new Season, new players, let's go! It’s also another season with an unbalanced squad except this time it’s over-laden with defenders which perhaps indicates what ‘the gaffer’s’ intentions and style of football will be like. On the subject of negativity does anyone actually turn up on the terraces with the express intention to boo the team? I would imagine everyone wants them to win in that 90 minutes but before and afterwards on places like the internet people are allowed to voice their apprehensions and concerns and there is nothing wrong with that. The players and manager are in a very public industry and part of the job should be having a thick enough skin that negative opinion doesn’t stop you doing your job the best you can. Winning games is the best panacea for negativity so let’s see if the team can have us in the top 6 after the first few rounds, a position we have never been in under DC and his perennial awful starts.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 10:52:10 GMT
There’s an easy solution to that: win 4 of the first 6 games and prove that the recruitment over the summer was better than it looks. Simples. You've hit the nail on the head with that comment, when we beat Wimbledon 3-2 in our first game under Buckle we were all behind him, it all went Pete Tong when we then started losing games. I wonder if GC's plea for support is down to him sensing that it's going to be another battle to stay up/win home games, as if we start off winning games the negativity will soon disappear and there will be no issues with the fans getting behind the players on the pitch. See my post above- the fans should always be behind the players on the pitch, at least.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 10:54:00 GMT
Shame about those comments which were unnecessary. Otherwise, brilliant interview.
I have concerns about the lack of creativity and goals, but 100% agree about this group battling for the club, as they have since relegation it shpuld be said. That is what BRFC is all about and if GC can tap into that rather than take unneccessary swipes at supporters, he will do well.
And actually, I disagree about there being much in the way of negativity around the club. Most know that we are probably as high as we can expect to be at the moment and that, relatively speaking, these are good times to be a Gashead. But that doesn't mean that supporters can't have opinions.
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Post by baggins on Jul 28, 2019 11:01:06 GMT
Shame about those comments which were unnecessary. Otherwise, brilliant interview. I have concerns about the lack of creativity and goals, but 100% agree about this group battling for the club, as they have since relegation it shpuld be said. That is what BRFC is all about and if GC can tap into that rather than take unneccessary swipes at supporters, he will do well. And actually, I disagree about there being much in the way of negativity around the club. Most know that we are probably as high as we can expect to be at the moment and that, relatively speaking, these are good times to be a Gashead. But that doesn't mean that supporters can't have opinions. I wonder if he made those comments to get us to give that bit extra rather than meaning we're overly critical?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 11:06:54 GMT
Shame about those comments which were unnecessary. Otherwise, brilliant interview. I have concerns about the lack of creativity and goals, but 100% agree about this group battling for the club, as they have since relegation it shpuld be said. That is what BRFC is all about and if GC can tap into that rather than take unneccessary swipes at supporters, he will do well. And actually, I disagree about there being much in the way of negativity around the club. Most know that we are probably as high as we can expect to be at the moment and that, relatively speaking, these are good times to be a Gashead. But that doesn't mean that supporters can't have opinions. I wonder if he made those comments to get us to give that bit extra rather than meaning we're overly critical? Maybe yeah. I hope so. Would be interesting to know what he was referring to but I guess we never will. Even with the concerns over lack of creativity, I'm buzzing for this season and can't wait for it to start!
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 28, 2019 11:11:05 GMT
Not sure why people are wondering how he can know this. The negativity is everywhere, all over twitter, the forums, in the background murmur of the crowd. People think it's their right to whine like children about every aspect of the club, and it is, but they should also know these things filter through and affect the team. It's extremely disingenuous to spend all you time whining, and then to pretend there's no way the manager and the players can know about it. There’s an easy solution to that: win 4 of the first 6 games and prove that the recruitment over the summer was better than it looks. Simples. Blimey! I wish it was that simple. Win and we’ll support you, lose and ..... Its football, no guarantees. Like most of the fan base I’ll support them win or lose, that’s what supporters do.😉 UTG!
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Post by baggins on Jul 28, 2019 11:14:22 GMT
I wonder if he made those comments to get us to give that bit extra rather than meaning we're overly critical? Maybe yeah. I hope so. Would be interesting to know what he was referring to but I guess we never will. Even with the concerns over lack of creativity, I'm buzzing for this season and can't wait for it to start! When was the last time we had a good start? You know, a really good start rather than waiting until the New Year to get going?
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Post by Gashead73 on Jul 28, 2019 11:20:27 GMT
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Post by gashead1981 on Jul 28, 2019 11:35:16 GMT
I have found the transition from great attacking football with good players to dreadful negative football with poor players difficult. I found the product on offer unwatchable last season. We got results under coughlan but in the same way that wycombe did last season. Sometimes i post in the style of our play. GC had one job last season, keep us up. If that meant unwatchable style of play, so be it, much better than playing lovely to watch football and go down. It's a new Season, new players, let's go! Exactly.
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Post by Hudson1883 on Jul 28, 2019 12:01:10 GMT
Anyone who thinks there isn’t a negative (and at times toxic) aura about the club the last few months, are in dreamland. It’s no shock at all the gaffer knows it, as mentioned various times above. A rallying call is absolutely spot on going into that first game, some of the flak he and the team received in the last few months of the previous campaign was borderline criminal.
As for his ‘unwatchable’ football, give me dogged, ground out victories over tippy tappy nice looking football that ends in defeat any day. If you’re walking into the Thatchers Bar at 5pm unhappy at the sight of Rovers top of the league after another hard fought ugly win, you’re probably in the wrong sport. You’re best off watching something that’s beautiful and easy on the eye 99.9% of the time, like Dressage.
Good on ya GC, roll on Blackpool!
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Post by baggins on Jul 28, 2019 12:10:40 GMT
Anyone who thinks there isn’t a negative (and at times toxic) aura about the club the last few months, are in dreamland. It’s no shock at all the gaffer knows it, as mentioned various times above. A rallying call is absolutely spot on going into that first game, some of the flak he and the team received in the last few months of the previous campaign was borderline criminal. As for his ‘unwatchable’ football, give me dogged, ground out victories over tippy tappy nice looking football that ends in defeat any day. If you’re walking into the Thatchers Bar at 5pm to the sight of Rovers top of the league after another hard fought ugly win, you’re probably in the wrong sport. You’re best off watching something that’s beautiful and easy on the eye 99.9% of the time, like Dressage. Good on ya GC, roll on Blackpool! This.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 12:15:10 GMT
I can 100% state that our forum is read, alongside twitter and all the other social media out there by people within the club.
Personally I’m going to stay positive this season , I’m delighted with GC he is a real battler and I’m sure he will go on to bigger things one day.
For now he is our man and we should absolutely back him with everything we have ...
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