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Post by tbonegas on Aug 21, 2019 11:22:41 GMT
Well in normal circumstances you shouldn't make any decisions on relegation until after Christmas but based on last nights events I would say that three relegation spots are pretty well booked and we will be fighting to not fill the fourth spot! Bury look to be gone without a fight and Boltons damn right cheating to cancel last nights game should be dealt with by the EFL hopefully with a transfer ban that should have been imposed when they messed Forest Green around with Doidge and they too should be relegated and I would be very surprised if last nights opponents don't fill the third spot because they were bloody awful! That said a win is a win and there were some plus points- Kilgour is developing into a solid player, Davies looks like he could be a good captain, Clarke-Harris is getting fitter slowly and is off the mark and at last saw what a good player Ed Upson is and could be even better if we can sign an accomplished creative player to play with him. Jaakkola 7 Didn't have a lot to do but what he did he did well. Distribution was the best I have seen from him and took a couple of crosses well. I have a feeling that we have a very good keeper here for a few years and at last may have solved the problem of getting a keeper that is ours. Davies 8 Very good performance from a player who IMO could and should now be made captain as he leads players. More performances like this and we will be forgetting Tom Lockyer and that is not being disrespectful and meant in the nicest way! Craig 7.5 Didn't deserve to be left out after the Wycombe game and came back in to a back three with three central defenders and did very well.He looked solid throughout and though I am not a great fan of playing with wing backs it may have to b e the style going forward if we can't sign a couple of decent attacking players. Kilgour 7.5 One poor mistake that could easily have conceded a goal but other than that a very good performance and looked like he had played there for years. Hare 7.5 Some fantastic crosses including the one that created the towering well placed header from Clarke-Harris for the vital first League goal of the season and looks to be a brgain signing if like Leahy he can make this his benchmark Clarke 5 Upson 8.5 MOM Proved to me that he is a good player. Dominated proceedings throughout and the quicker we can sign an accomplished creative midfielder to play alongside him the better. Rarely gave the ball away and kept fighting for every ball and every bit of possession. We should be going all out to get a couple of more pacy players out wide but for me to add a bit of pace and creativity alongside Upson would be the n umber 1 priority. Ogogo 6.5 Did exactly what it says on the tin and fought for every ball and won a lot of challenges. He's never going to be spectacular but a very useful player who does a lot of the dirty work that goes unnoticed. Leahy 6.5 Not quite as good as Hare but definitely a better performance from him and one which gives me hope that he could be another good signing if he can make last nights performance as his bench mark. It would be fantastic if we can get Little and Holmes-Denis back fit again and have some good competition for places. Smith 7 The thing I likabout young Smith is exactly what I dislike about Tom Nichols- he wants to get in the six yard box and try to score goals. His run across the keeper made the first goal and he probably should have scored from close in during the second half but he also won and converted the penalty and generally made a nuisance of himself. Silly booking for taking his shirt off. Clarke-Harris 7.5 getting better and could easily have had a hat trick. Well place dheader gave us the lead and great turn of pace in the first half hinted that his fitness was returning. Will be a real beast when fully fit and looking forward to many even better performances. Subs: Bennett 5 Came on and prompted but I felt it was the wrong substitution and we would have been better off bringing on a bit of pace in Rodman as Bennett does IMO slow the game down too much especially when you are playing against nine. Adeboyejo 5 Tried hard and IMO will get better and press for a regular place. Nichols 3 Woeful an d has to go. Sorry Tom but the fact he couldn't take the glorious chance presented when clean through with just the keeper to beat was for me the final nail in the coffin. We should be signing another striker and doing everything to loan him out. Crowd 6 It is worrying that we are down to about 6500 for a home match but the crowd stuck with the team and gave Stefan Payne a warm welcome on his return. Ref 7 Did OK. Got most important decisions right. Amazing that with six substitutes and two sending offs there was only 3 minutes additional time. Tranmere 3 What a god awful side! In disciplined which rightly resulted in red cards and it could easily have been more., Presented little threat and for me definite relegation candidates. The fact they beat Bolton 5-0 on Saturday shows what a poor side Bolton are rather than how good Tranmere are. Looked just like a League 2 side. GC- Not going to either criticise or praise too much but this was a very important win but Saturday will be a much better indicator as to where we are and new signings are still required and will for me be an important factor in his future as our Manager. Anyway bring on Oxford and the Snake and another chance for the fans to "welcome" a player back- who could have asked for Stefan Payne followed by Matty Taylor? My last comment mind is - if Stefan Payne can't get a place in that awful Tranmere side then our opinion of him was right! UTG Craig should be captain. What the feck are you on about?
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Post by glengas on Aug 21, 2019 11:24:47 GMT
Great to get the first win on the board, but can the religious amongst us please go to church and pray JCH stays fit because I feel, like last season, he will be the player that keeps us up.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Aug 21, 2019 11:25:41 GMT
Sorry fella but that's just not right. Ollie had a great game last night. If I could critisize him for anything it was lack of tempo laying off to Hare & Leahy who were in achres of space when they went down to 9. Other than that, thought it was an excellent example of what a Captain should be all about. If he had a great game last night why are his ratings so low by the majority of posters? Unless your an expert pundit and they are not. Bit like one of those adverts that says 90% of 20 people agree. It doesn't mean a lot. Most people at the games don't even post on the forums and those that do will obviously have their favourite and least favourite players like everyone else. Some players will always get low marks from certain people no matter how they play in an individual game, based on the fact that they just don't like them.
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Post by baggins on Aug 21, 2019 11:30:49 GMT
If he had a great game last night why are his ratings so low by the majority of posters? Unless your an expert pundit and they are not. Bit like one of those adverts that says 90% of 20 people agree. It doesn't mean a lot. Most people at the games don't even post on the forums and those that do will obviously have their favourite and least favourite players like everyone else. Some players will always get low marks from certain people no matter how they play in an individual game, based on the fact that they just don't like them. This.
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 21, 2019 11:39:00 GMT
Well in normal circumstances you shouldn't make any decisions on relegation until after Christmas but based on last nights events I would say that three relegation spots are pretty well booked and we will be fighting to not fill the fourth spot! Bury look to be gone without a fight and Boltons damn right cheating to cancel last nights game should be dealt with by the EFL hopefully with a transfer ban that should have been imposed when they messed Forest Green around with Doidge and they too should be relegated and I would be very surprised if last nights opponents don't fill the third spot because they were bloody awful! That said a win is a win and there were some plus points- Kilgour is developing into a solid player, Davies looks like he could be a good captain, Clarke-Harris is getting fitter slowly and is off the mark and at last saw what a good player Ed Upson is and could be even better if we can sign an accomplished creative player to play with him. Jaakkola 7 Didn't have a lot to do but what he did he did well. Distribution was the best I have seen from him and took a couple of crosses well. I have a feeling that we have a very good keeper here for a few years and at last may have solved the problem of getting a keeper that is ours. Davies 8 Very good performance from a player who IMO could and should now be made captain as he leads players. More performances like this and we will be forgetting Tom Lockyer and that is not being disrespectful and meant in the nicest way! Craig 7.5 Didn't deserve to be left out after the Wycombe game and came back in to a back three with three central defenders and did very well.He looked solid throughout and though I am not a great fan of playing with wing backs it may have to b e the style going forward if we can't sign a couple of decent attacking players. Kilgour 7.5 One poor mistake that could easily have conceded a goal but other than that a very good performance and looked like he had played there for years. Hare 7.5 Some fantastic crosses including the one that created the towering well placed header from Clarke-Harris for the vital first League goal of the season and looks to be a brgain signing if like Leahy he can make this his benchmark Clarke 5 Upson 8.5 MOM Proved to me that he is a good player. Dominated proceedings throughout and the quicker we can sign an accomplished creative midfielder to play alongside him the better. Rarely gave the ball away and kept fighting for every ball and every bit of possession. We should be going all out to get a couple of more pacy players out wide but for me to add a bit of pace and creativity alongside Upson would be the n umber 1 priority. Ogogo 6.5 Did exactly what it says on the tin and fought for every ball and won a lot of challenges. He's never going to be spectacular but a very useful player who does a lot of the dirty work that goes unnoticed. Leahy 6.5 Not quite as good as Hare but definitely a better performance from him and one which gives me hope that he could be another good signing if he can make last nights performance as his bench mark. It would be fantastic if we can get Little and Holmes-Denis back fit again and have some good competition for places. Smith 7 The thing I likabout young Smith is exactly what I dislike about Tom Nichols- he wants to get in the six yard box and try to score goals. His run across the keeper made the first goal and he probably should have scored from close in during the second half but he also won and converted the penalty and generally made a nuisance of himself. Silly booking for taking his shirt off. Clarke-Harris 7.5 getting better and could easily have had a hat trick. Well place dheader gave us the lead and great turn of pace in the first half hinted that his fitness was returning. Will be a real beast when fully fit and looking forward to many even better performances. Subs: Bennett 5 Came on and prompted but I felt it was the wrong substitution and we would have been better off bringing on a bit of pace in Rodman as Bennett does IMO slow the game down too much especially when you are playing against nine. Adeboyejo 5 Tried hard and IMO will get better and press for a regular place. Nichols 3 Woeful an d has to go. Sorry Tom but the fact he couldn't take the glorious chance presented when clean through with just the keeper to beat was for me the final nail in the coffin. We should be signing another striker and doing everything to loan him out. Crowd 6 It is worrying that we are down to about 6500 for a home match but the crowd stuck with the team and gave Stefan Payne a warm welcome on his return. Ref 7 Did OK. Got most important decisions right. Amazing that with six substitutes and two sending offs there was only 3 minutes additional time. Tranmere 3 What a god awful side! In disciplined which rightly resulted in red cards and it could easily have been more., Presented little threat and for me definite relegation candidates. The fact they beat Bolton 5-0 on Saturday shows what a poor side Bolton are rather than how good Tranmere are. Looked just like a League 2 side. GC- Not going to either criticise or praise too much but this was a very important win but Saturday will be a much better indicator as to where we are and new signings are still required and will for me be an important factor in his future as our Manager. Anyway bring on Oxford and the Snake and another chance for the fans to "welcome" a player back- who could have asked for Stefan Payne followed by Matty Taylor? My last comment mind is - if Stefan Payne can't get a place in that awful Tranmere side then our opinion of him was right! UTG Regarding Nichols I expect we would have loaned him out already, if possible. Don't forget how much we paid for him, so you would have thought he would have been on a decent league 1 wage. Can't see anyone matching it, so it depends on how much other clubs are willing to pay towards his wages. If he's on 3k a week, can't see anyone wanting to cover that. Same with Bennett and a few others. That's why GC is finding it hard, to bring in more players and move player's on. Who ever is in charge next season, will have an easier job, if a lot are out of contract. They will have more funds available to spend on who they want.
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 21, 2019 11:41:21 GMT
Why do people quote the whole of Steve's report (thanks Steve by the way) - it makes the thread so long. Any reply here is clearly about the report, or if it's about someones reply then just quote that!
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Post by peterparker on Aug 21, 2019 12:03:29 GMT
hNone of the starting 11 deserve less than a 6
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 21, 2019 12:09:05 GMT
Regarding Nichols I expect we would have loaned him out already, if possible. Don't forget how much we paid for him, so you would have thought he would have been on a decent league 1 wage. Can't see anyone matching it, so it depends on how much other clubs are willing to pay towards his wages. If he's on 3k a week, can't see anyone wanting to cover that. Same with Bennett and a few others. That's why GC is finding it hard, to bring in more players and move player's on. Who ever is in charge next season, will have an easier job, if a lot are out of contract. They will have more funds available to spend on who they want. I can't see anybody taking TN off our hands even if they only have to contribute towards 50% of his wages when the likes of Tyler Smith are available for next to nothing. Bennett has also reverted to looking like a little boy lost again on the pitch!
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Post by baggins on Aug 21, 2019 12:12:49 GMT
Regarding Nichols I expect we would have loaned him out already, if possible. Don't forget how much we paid for him, so you would have thought he would have been on a decent league 1 wage. Can't see anyone matching it, so it depends on how much other clubs are willing to pay towards his wages. If he's on 3k a week, can't see anyone wanting to cover that. Same with Bennett and a few others. That's why GC is finding it hard, to bring in more players and move player's on. Who ever is in charge next season, will have an easier job, if a lot are out of contract. They will have more funds available to spend on who they want. I can't see anybody taking TN off our hands even if they only have to contribute towards 50% of his wages when the likes of Tyler Smith are available for next to nothing. Bennett has also reverted to looking like a little boy lost again on the pitch! Problem is, with stats like Nichols, who's going to be interested?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 12:13:46 GMT
I can't see anybody taking TN off our hands even if they only have to contribute towards 50% of his wages when the likes of Tyler Smith are available for next to nothing. Bennett has also reverted to looking like a little boy lost again on the pitch! Problem is, with stats like Nichols, who's going to be interested? Sainsbury's meat counter?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 12:15:09 GMT
Great to get the first win on the board, but can the religious amongst us please go to church and pray JCH stays fit because I feel, like last season, he will be the player that keeps us up. If we can keep him beyond January. If he keeps scoring goals..............
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Post by baggins on Aug 21, 2019 12:16:41 GMT
Great to get the first win on the board, but can the religious amongst us please go to church and pray JCH stays fit because I feel, like last season, he will be the player that keeps us up. If we can keep him beyond January. If he keeps scoring goals.............. If we got the cash.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Aug 21, 2019 12:21:36 GMT
Is it only me, or does JCH look a bit slimmer this season?
He should be quite fit after carrying the team last season...
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 21, 2019 12:21:37 GMT
Is it only me, or does JCH look a bit slimmer this season? Its that haircut he had..... defo looks lean and mean with it !
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Post by Russgas on Aug 21, 2019 12:34:25 GMT
hNone of the starting 11 deserve less than a 6 In your opinion.
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 21, 2019 12:35:57 GMT
Regarding Nichols I expect we would have loaned him out already, if possible. Don't forget how much we paid for him, so you would have thought he would have been on a decent league 1 wage. Can't see anyone matching it, so it depends on how much other clubs are willing to pay towards his wages. If he's on 3k a week, can't see anyone wanting to cover that. Same with Bennett and a few others. That's why GC is finding it hard, to bring in more players and move player's on. Who ever is in charge next season, will have an easier job, if a lot are out of contract. They will have more funds available to spend on who they want. I can't see anybody taking TN off our hands even if they only have to contribute towards 50% of his wages when the likes of Tyler Smith are available for next to nothing. Bennett has also reverted to looking like a little boy lost again on the pitch! Not sure what Exeter's striker situation is like. I could see them taking a chance on him, if they only had to pay half. They might think he can rediscover his early form, if he was at home again. I agree it is going to be hard and if we can loan player's out, you can guarantee, we will be paying towards the wages still.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 21, 2019 12:38:48 GMT
hNone of the starting 11 deserve less than a 6 In your opinion. obviously
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Post by William Wilson on Aug 21, 2019 13:43:39 GMT
Is it only me, or does JCH look a bit slimmer this season? No, you definitely both look a bit slimmer.
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 21, 2019 15:50:40 GMT
Thanks for the write up Steve.
I was much happier with Jaakkola catching rather than punching last night. Helps everyone out. Especially considering his distribution is pretty decent.
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 21, 2019 15:55:49 GMT
Saw the thread title and thought this was about something else tbh.......
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