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Post by madgas on Aug 27, 2019 22:52:12 GMT
Naturally very sad. But I wanted to considered practical implications for us?
Mods feel free to merge if you think that this should be done. But I figured as this is a more selfish stance perhaps it justifies it's own thread.
So were down 1 match possibly two. This potentially impacts us in many ways:
Should season ticket holders get refunded?
How will the loss of 2/23 match day revenue affect rovers?
Will we get compensated?
Has this affected our transfer policy?
Does this impact FFP? Ie could we or others breach our limit given revenue has fallen? What should be the punishment if so?
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Post by axegas on Aug 27, 2019 23:05:28 GMT
We will lose a bit of money, season ticket holders will have one less game to go to.
But all of that pales in significance with what Bury and potentially Bolton supporters will go through, having the club they love stripped away from them.
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Post by darkbluegas on Aug 27, 2019 23:05:36 GMT
I would imagine the EFL will compensate all clubs for loss of revenue caused by their inability to organise a simple league competition. The cheque will no doubt be in the post
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Post by wilkimania on Aug 28, 2019 0:47:53 GMT
I've got a bit lost between all of the threads but if Bolton follow Bury into expulsion then does that mean that nobody gets relegated from league two at the end of the season?
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Post by Qatar Gas on Aug 28, 2019 4:19:03 GMT
I've got a bit lost between all of the threads but if Bolton follow Bury into expulsion then does that mean that nobody gets relegated from league two at the end of the season? I assume only two go down from league one and all other leagues remain the same (still four up from league two etc.) What happens with the teams who did play against Bolton so far this season? I assume those results are removed and the points as well?
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Post by montygas on Aug 28, 2019 6:23:28 GMT
I've got a bit lost between all of the threads but if Bolton follow Bury into expulsion then does that mean that nobody gets relegated from league two at the end of the season? I assume only two go down from league one and all other leagues remain the same (still four up from league two etc.) What happens with the teams who did play against Bolton so far this season? I assume those results are removed and the points as well? That's my understanding with regards to teams that have already played Bolton. Would be sad to see them go to, but it would mean teams like Tranmere don't have the 5 goal advantage on other teams that didn't get the chance to play Bolton, when it gets to the end of the season.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 28, 2019 6:30:36 GMT
Bolton have had enough chances to get out of this mess, they should have gone last night
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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 28, 2019 6:37:36 GMT
I've got a bit lost between all of the threads but if Bolton follow Bury into expulsion then does that mean that nobody gets relegated from league two at the end of the season? I assume only two go down from league one and all other leagues remain the same (still four up from league two etc.) What happens with the teams who did play against Bolton so far this season? I assume those results are removed and the points as well? League 2 / conf will need to change too, unless the number of teams in the league change or Phoenix clubs get readmitted into l2 next season. Otherwise l2 will drop down to 22 teams as they’d only gain 2 from l1 instead of 4. So no relegation out of l2 this year or an extra two teams from the conference. Or a nice idea would be a balance of the 2
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Aug 28, 2019 6:41:16 GMT
What league would Bury effectively be placed into now? They’ve not been liquidated just yet? Sad scenes all round.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 28, 2019 6:58:45 GMT
Another thread...!
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Post by lpgas on Aug 28, 2019 8:12:03 GMT
I would imagine the EFL will compensate all clubs for loss of revenue caused by their inability to organise a simple league competition. The cheque will no doubt be in the post Oh no they wont
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Post by lpgas on Aug 28, 2019 8:13:05 GMT
What league would Bury effectively be placed into now? They’ve not been liquidated just yet? Sad scenes all round. Next season they can apply to enter the 7th tier of below. they will lose their ground to developers
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Post by toddy1953 on Aug 28, 2019 8:45:02 GMT
Bolton have had enough chances to get out of this mess, they should have gone last night Agree, I just think that the EFL has made such a pigs ear of everything. Still not faced any punishment for cancelling Brentford fixture last season. Seems to be that it’s ‘easier’ to show your strength to smaller clubs, but should they be suspending Bolton’s fixtures now? 😩
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Aug 28, 2019 9:06:30 GMT
We were due to play Bury at home on the 4th January. With any luck, we'll end up playing an FA Cup third round tie that weekend instead.
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Post by Marshy on Aug 28, 2019 9:08:28 GMT
We were due to play Bury at home on the 4th January. With any luck, we'll end up playing an FA Cup third round tie that weekend instead. When we’re we supposed to have the Gigg at the Lane?
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Post by I Voted For Kodos on Aug 28, 2019 9:20:19 GMT
We were due to play Bury at home on the 4th January. With any luck, we'll end up playing an FA Cup third round tie that weekend instead. When we’re we supposed to have the Gigg at the Lane? 5th October, I suppose we could ask the FA if we can enter at the third qualifying round to get a game that weekend, but might as well have a water-up instead.
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 28, 2019 9:20:57 GMT
I would imagine the EFL will compensate all clubs for loss of revenue caused by their inability to organise a simple league competition. The cheque will no doubt be in the post I wouldn't hold your breath. Jevans was on radio 4 this morning saying the EFL don't regulate clubs they just organise the competition. Said Dale bought an asset and that the EFL couldn't do anything to make him run the club properly. As far as I know there isn't anything in the EFL rules saying they have to compensate clubs for a team not being able to fulfil their fixtures. The problem gets more complicated with Bolton as they have played some fixtures. If they went out of business the clubs that have played them at home would then have the extra revenue and thus an advantage over the rest of the teams in the league. Its an absolute mess.
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Post by neilv93 on Aug 28, 2019 9:23:06 GMT
I would imagine the EFL will compensate all clubs for loss of revenue caused by their inability to organise a simple league competition. The cheque will no doubt be in the post I wouldn't hold your breath. Jevans was on radio 4 this morning saying the EFL don't regulate clubs they just organise the competition. Said Dale bought an asset and that the EFL couldn't do anything to make him run the club properly. As far as I know there isn't anything in the EFL rules saying they have to compensate clubs for a team not being able to fulfil their fixtures. The problem gets more complicated with Bolton as they have played some fixtures. If they went out of business the clubs that have played them at home would then have the extra revenue and thus an advantage over the rest of the teams in the league.Its an absolute mess. Not to mention points on the board from beating a bunch of 17 year olds 5-0 as well. For example, what happens if Tranmere pip us to safety by two points come May?
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 28, 2019 9:24:45 GMT
I wouldn't hold your breath. Jevans was on radio 4 this morning saying the EFL don't regulate clubs they just organise the competition. Said Dale bought an asset and that the EFL couldn't do anything to make him run the club properly. As far as I know there isn't anything in the EFL rules saying they have to compensate clubs for a team not being able to fulfil their fixtures. The problem gets more complicated with Bolton as they have played some fixtures. If they went out of business the clubs that have played them at home would then have the extra revenue and thus an advantage over the rest of the teams in the league.Its an absolute mess. Not to mention points on the board from beating a bunch of 17 year olds 5-0 as well. For example, what happens if Tranmere pip us to safety by two points come May? Or even worse on goal difference!
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Post by neilv93 on Aug 28, 2019 9:25:40 GMT
Not to mention points on the board from beating a bunch of 17 year olds 5-0 as well. For example, what happens if Tranmere pip us to safety by two points come May? Or even worse on goal difference! Exactly! Thankfully we've got England's number nine Tom Nichols firing goals now so playoffs is a minimum expectation but you never know!
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