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Post by knowall on Nov 9, 2019 17:35:18 GMT
I am certain that Team Managers select what they consider to be their best available players for a match, and I include DC and GC in that. Tom was a virtual permanent fixture for DC and has been for GC, As they are both professionals whose job depends on their success or otherwise I have to deduce that they both considered that Tom was worthy of his place in their team. Whist I appreciate that football is different from most trades, I consider it would be strange for DC or GC to have turned up at my place of work and tell me how to do my job. At least, if they had, I am not sure how much notice I would have taken of their opinion. What a daft thing to say, particularly in response to the post you quoted. I'm not a painter and decorator but if next door are having their front done with a massive lime green willy mural on an orange background I don't need a city and guilds to say it looks sh1te. Just like you don't need an FA badge to know 4 goals in 3 seasons from a striker is about as attractive. Then give a plausible reason why DC and GC (who I suggest know more than you or me about professional football) play TN regularly in preference to other players? Could it be that they regard his contribution more than just as a striker? or are they as 'daft' as me? By the way, next doors front sounds rather fetching!
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Post by oldgas on Nov 9, 2019 18:27:04 GMT
What a daft thing to say, particularly in response to the post you quoted. I'm not a painter and decorator but if next door are having their front done with a massive lime green willy mural on an orange background I don't need a city and guilds to say it looks sh1te. Just like you don't need an FA badge to know 4 goals in 3 seasons from a striker is about as attractive. Then give a plausible reason why DC and GC (who I suggest know more than you or me about professional football) play TN regularly in preference to other players? Could it be that they regard his contribution more than just as a striker? or are they as 'daft' as me? By the way, next doors front sounds rather fetching! Yeah, I thought it looked really good when the decorators finished it. I didn't know that tosser LJG lived next door though.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Nov 9, 2019 18:30:22 GMT
This is an interesting issue. Both DC and GC have very different managerial philosophies yet both obviously rate TN by virtue of the number of times they selected him.
I, for one, simply don't rate his contribution --- a view shared by most posters. However our previous and current manager see things in a different light. I must be missing something ......
UTG
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 9, 2019 20:51:58 GMT
What a daft thing to say, particularly in response to the post you quoted. I'm not a painter and decorator but if next door are having their front done with a massive lime green willy mural on an orange background I don't need a city and guilds to say it looks sh1te. Just like you don't need an FA badge to know 4 goals in 3 seasons from a striker is about as attractive. Then give a plausible reason why DC and GC (who I suggest know more than you or me about professional football) play TN regularly in preference to other players? Could it be that they regard his contribution more than just as a striker? or are they as 'daft' as me? By the way, next doors front sounds rather fetching! Says the poster who thinks he knows more about running a club than the owner, you really couldn't make it up, I doubt DC had any choice but to play TN after he'd spent £350K on signing him, although it did him a lot of good as eventually it led to his sacking. As far as GC, last season he had little choice, this season Smith seems the favoured No 10 but he clearly can't play every game.
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Post by Gazdelyon on Nov 9, 2019 21:13:33 GMT
If anyone remembers the Zidane film where the camera followed him around the pitch for the whole ninety minutes, I wonder what a similar film would do for Tom Nichols. I am in the dc/gc “he does more than meets the eye” camp.
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Post by adrian301 on Nov 9, 2019 21:33:08 GMT
Trouble is.....with him being a top earner at the club, other players (JCH), will be wanting the same or more.
He is just running out his contract (£450000 over 3 years ), can't blame him.
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Post by LJG on Nov 9, 2019 22:37:30 GMT
What a daft thing to say, particularly in response to the post you quoted. I'm not a painter and decorator but if next door are having their front done with a massive lime green willy mural on an orange background I don't need a city and guilds to say it looks sh1te. Just like you don't need an FA badge to know 4 goals in 3 seasons from a striker is about as attractive. Then give a plausible reason why DC and GC (who I suggest know more than you or me about professional football) play TN regularly in preference to other players? Could it be that they regard his contribution more than just as a striker? or are they as 'daft' as me? By the way, next doors front sounds rather fetching! Well DC doesn't have a job as a league one manager anymore does he?
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 9, 2019 22:56:42 GMT
If anyone remembers the Zidane film where the camera followed him around the pitch for the whole ninety minutes, I wonder what a similar film would do for Tom Nichols. I am in the dc/gc “he does more than meets the eye” camp.If a striker is anonymous then that is a problem. I guess time will tell when he gets a contract at another club but I very doubt any other L1 clubs will see any more than most of us do. I'd play TN tomorrow by the way as that is his level, so maybe he can give us a rare glimpse of an attacking threat as a kind of send-off before reverting back to the normal limp L1 performances.
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Post by LJG on Nov 9, 2019 22:58:51 GMT
Then give a plausible reason why DC and GC (who I suggest know more than you or me about professional football) play TN regularly in preference to other players? Could it be that they regard his contribution more than just as a striker? or are they as 'daft' as me? By the way, next doors front sounds rather fetching! Yeah, I thought it looked really good when the decorators finished it. I didn't know that tosser LJG lived next door though. Can you at least move the huge vagina sculpture off the front lawn?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2019 2:26:03 GMT
I just think the current manager is being pragmatic with tom nichols. He is stuck with him so has to use him as best he can. our best striker is injured for some totally unknown reason and we have 2 loan strikers who may or my not even make it as football league regulars so its obvious to me that nichols needs to be kept in the loop. Nichols is 3rd in the list of scorers this season with only clarke-harris and tyler smith above him.
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 10, 2019 5:39:58 GMT
He’ll score again Don’t know where Don’t know when But I know he’ll score again some sunny day. Is it sunny today ?
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 10, 2019 10:04:57 GMT
Trouble is.....with him being a top earner at the club, other players (JCH), will be wanting the same or more. He is just running out his contract (£450000 over 3 years ), can't blame him. Nonsense how can he be running out his contract as what other League club is going to offer him a decent contract when it ends? I assume that why he doesn't want to hire a van as he's probably saving every penny he can, as he knows he'll never get another contract like the one DC & SH gave him. Probably with bonuses, his transfer fee and agents fees that the best part of £1m spent.
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Post by aforce on Nov 20, 2019 13:05:31 GMT
I’ve gone past feeling sorry for him now and I think he’s actually taking the p!ss out of the fans and manager with his continual Sub par (politely putting it) performances. He needs to man up be counted but yet again weak timid performance last night.
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Post by baggins on Nov 20, 2019 13:23:06 GMT
I’ve gone past feeling sorry for him now and I think he’s actually taking the p!ss out of the fans and manager with his continual Sub par (politely putting it) performances. He needs to man up be counted but yet again weak timid performance last night. He can't hold a ball up, he can't lay off a pass, he can't relieve the defence by keeping hold of a header out, he hasn't got a shot, he can't take free kicks, he wins nothing in the air, and he doesn't score. For whatever reason it's not worked out for him here. I'm sure he's a nice guy but it's time to say goodbye.
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Post by yattongas on Nov 20, 2019 13:29:52 GMT
I’ve gone past feeling sorry for him now and I think he’s actually taking the p!ss out of the fans and manager with his continual Sub par (politely putting it) performances. He needs to man up be counted but yet again weak timid performance last night. He can't hold a ball up, he can't lay off a pass, he can't relieve the defence by keeping hold of a header out, he hasn't got a shot, he can't take free kicks, he wins nothing in the air, and he doesn't score. For whatever reason it's not worked out for him here. I'm sure he's a nice guy but it's time to say goodbye. For whatever reason it’s not worked out here.... urmmm might be for the reasons you’ve listed above!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2019 13:29:58 GMT
We desperately needed an outlet last night just to relieve some of the pressure at the back …. Neither of our Strikers did a particularly good job of holding up the ball at all. Throw in the wayward passing of the Captain ( apart from a very decent cross on 2.23) and it was no wonder we made Bromley look good. They constantly had the ball and were in our half!!
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Post by baggins on Nov 20, 2019 13:51:14 GMT
He can't hold a ball up, he can't lay off a pass, he can't relieve the defence by keeping hold of a header out, he hasn't got a shot, he can't take free kicks, he wins nothing in the air, and he doesn't score. For whatever reason it's not worked out for him here. I'm sure he's a nice guy but it's time to say goodbye. For whatever reason it’s not worked out here.... urmmm might be for the reasons you’ve listed above! Yea, unfortunately.
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Post by baggins on Nov 20, 2019 13:54:19 GMT
We desperately needed an outlet last night just to relieve some of the pressure at the back …. Neither of our Strikers did a particularly good job of holding up the ball at all. Throw in the wayward passing of the Captain ( apart from a very decent cross on 2.23) and it was no wonder we made Bromley look good. They constantly had the ball and were in our half!! The outlet should have come from our midfield. But Sercombe (what the hell has happened to him?), Clarke, did nothing to make that happen. That entire midfield needs changing, replacing. Including Upson, who does nothing for 90 minutes.
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Post by Russgas on Nov 20, 2019 14:00:12 GMT
We desperately needed an outlet last night just to relieve some of the pressure at the back …. Neither of our Strikers did a particularly good job of holding up the ball at all. Throw in the wayward passing of the Captain ( apart from a very decent cross on 2.23) and it was no wonder we made Bromley look good. They constantly had the ball and were in our half!! The outlet should have come from our midfield. But Sercombe (what the hell has happened to him?), Clarke, did nothing to make that happen. That entire midfield needs changing, replacing. Including Upson, who does nothing for 90 minutes. Been saying this for ages our midfield is just not good enough. No quality, no ball carrier's.
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Post by baggins on Nov 20, 2019 14:05:21 GMT
The outlet should have come from our midfield. But Sercombe (what the hell has happened to him?), Clarke, did nothing to make that happen. That entire midfield needs changing, replacing. Including Upson, who does nothing for 90 minutes. Been saying this for ages our midfield is just not good enough. No quality, no ball carrier's. There's just nothing there. No creativity, no breaking forward from defence, no chance of a killer pass to the front 2 to put them through on goal, nothing. If anything needs changing, it's them.
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