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Post by Mark Ash on Nov 2, 2014 8:50:43 GMT
I wasn't there yesterday, I was listening in the garage, working on my old MG, except not really doing anything of course, because nerves jangling as usual, counting down the last half-hour.
I was wondering what those who were there really made of the match officials, now that the dust has settled. At times, the impression given by the Radio Bristol guys was one of incomprehensible incompetence. The craziest point was when the ref dubiously gave Telford the free kick for the back-pass, right on the 6 yard line, then a lino was taken ill, then the ref just gave the ball to Puddy. As the match progressed, the wounded lino sat with a towel over his head, with no-one tracking the injury time, no board put up and doubts as to whether the ref knew how much time there was, or even whether he'd lost track of time altogether. The rash of cards at the end also was criticised. Overall though, the radio pair felt that Telford had the worst of a very bad display by the officials.
Now that it's all over, just wondering how much of this view was coloured by nerves or excitement. Was it really as bad as it sounded? Bit worrying if so.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 2, 2014 9:12:25 GMT
I wasn't there yesterday, I was listening in the garage, working on my old MG, except not really doing anything of course, because nerves jangling as usual, counting down the last half-hour. I was wondering what those who were there really made of the match officials, now that the dust has settled. At times, the impression given by the Radio Bristol guys was one of incomprehensible incompetence. The craziest point was when the ref dubiously gave Telford the free kick for the back-pass, right on the 6 yard line, then a lino was taken ill, then the ref just gave the ball to Puddy. As the match progressed, the wounded lino sat with a towel over his head, with no-one tracking the injury time, no board put up and doubts as to whether the ref knew how much time there was, or even whether he'd lost track of time altogether. The rash of cards at the end also was criticised. Overall though, the radio pair felt that Telford had the worst of a very bad display by the officials. Now that it's all over, just wondering how much of this view was coloured by nerves or excitement. Was it really as bad as it sounded? Bit worrying if so. No, it was that bad! I think the incident with the back pass, the ref blew up, looked round to his linesman who he noticed had fallen over so didn't see it so he had to make a quick decision and just decided to let us play on. The time at the end - there was no board put up I assume because the 4th official was linesman so whether the referee knew how much time he was adding on I don't know bu I don't think anyone knew how much injury time we were playing. Monksilver red card I didn't see, cant imagine he deliberately elbowed Higgins but will have to see a replay. There was several bad decisions during the afternoon and I do have to say that we were the beneficiaries on the whole |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 2, 2014 9:31:05 GMT
Just thought it was typical ref'ing we've come to suffer at this level, it's the same for both teams though so hardly worth complaining about. I can't understand why we didn't have the minutes board at the end though as somebody had used it for the substitutions.
I thought McChrystal was desperately luckily to stay on the pitch and the players, rather than the ref lost the plot after Monkhouse's red.
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Post by gasincider on Nov 2, 2014 10:21:40 GMT
Got it spot on Toppergas.
Couldn't wait for the final whistle, not to win the game, but before any more of our players got sent off. Everyone seemed to lose their heads after the red card, and it looked a matter of time for another to be shown. The officials were dreadful, but it's our own fault for being down at this level. We certainly got the rub of the green with the decisions yesterday.
I assume the minutes board can only be raised by the fourth official who was otherwise engaged, although the subs were dealt with by someone else. However, the ref is the only one who decides the extras so it made no difference, other than to my nerves.
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Post by hanham on Nov 2, 2014 11:15:36 GMT
The refereeing was shocking, typical of the complete incompetence we have witnessed all season. The only difference was, probably for the first time this season, it went in our favour. As for Monkhouse's dismissal, looked accidental but went against him. With Trottman out, Sinclair looking as though he was limping yesterday (who sends an injured player to run back to the changing room to pick up replacement boots for players?) Balanta still at least two weeks and two stone of fitness and Leadbitter still banned we are going to have to do some shoring up for a few games. These red cards are going to really bite sooner or later and we were lucky not to end up with a couple more yesterday.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Nov 2, 2014 11:38:40 GMT
Funnily enough I felt the ref was slightly better than we've had recently - for the portion of the game up to the linesman incident and then his performance crumbled after that - obviously taking stick from the home crowd for the bizarre episode. Someone near me thought the ref had been alerted to the linesman's predicament and was already stopping the game so that the ball was effectively "dead" when Puddy collected it. It did not seem to me that the events happened in that order but I expect that would be how the ref would like to explain it away! He certainly never regained control of the game after the dropped ball restart.
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Post by Staffordshire Gas on Nov 2, 2014 11:46:26 GMT
Yes we did seem to panic to-wards the end with bookings all over the place and feared MM was a red card not a yellow at one point.So little quality on display was my big concern not the ref.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Nov 2, 2014 11:48:08 GMT
Yes we did seem to panic to-wards the end with bookings all over the place and feared MM was a red card not a yellow at one point.So little quality on display was my big concern not the ref. It's a results business and I would take 3 points over a 'quality' draw/defeat all day long. |
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Nov 2, 2014 11:58:22 GMT
Just looked at the highlights and 1) it is clear the linesman collapses first then 2) the ball hits the player facing his own goal who does not seem to be controlling the direction of the ball, although admittedly it looks suspiciously like the part of his anatomy that he is paid to control the ball with! 3) with the ball in Puddy's hands the ref blows up play to check on the Lino - I think he is pointing at him but it looks like the indirect free kick signal. However, if he did stop the play due to the injury to the official and not for a back pass infringement then he was actually right to restart with a dropped ball.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 2, 2014 13:51:37 GMT
Pretty sure he blows for the foul, signals for an indirect free kick, then looks towards his collapsed lino, perhaps in the chaos he simply forgot what he'd blown up for?
Not sure of the exact rules but does plays stop immediately a lino/ref is taken ill, if so, perhaps the ref made the right decision afterall?
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