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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 26, 2019 20:07:07 GMT
What qualities do you look for in a captain?
Well for me there has to be a measure of experience, a natural leader who is respected and listened to by the squad but more than any of that, leads by example on the field. Someone who rarely has a bad game, who rarely makes mistakes, but puts his heart and soul on the line every time he crosses the white line.
Gerrard, Lampard, Beckham are the types that spring to mind. For Rovers you think of Holloway, Elliott and Tilson.
Of our current captains, do they fulfill each of those qualities? For me they don’t. Craig has a capability across his back line, but Can he lead the team, for me I don’t see it. Clarke isn’t old or wise enough or show any direct leadership skills of the men around him that he looks strong enough to be a captain.
And when I think of both of them on the field, it’s rare I see an all out performance from either of them over the collective seasons they have been with us. Sure they have had better games than others but not the consistent all out gutsy displays where they have dragged the team through on their own performance and made others step up as a result.
Of our current starters, who would you install as captain?
Personally I think Tom Davies would be a good candidate. Seems cool under pressure, and is often bossing millwall tone about.
The dark horse (in not in any reference to his skin colour but as someone you wouldn’t think of) would be Ogogo. His heart and soul effort on the pitch, his enthusiasm, desire as well as the passion just oozes through in his performances. You can tell he plays for the badge and fans.
What do you guys think?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 26, 2019 20:10:55 GMT
I think you look to a captain when things aren't going your way.... for calmness, motivation, communication and heart and soul.
When things are going right, you hardly notice them.
Much like good managers.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Oct 26, 2019 20:19:46 GMT
Tom Nichols.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 20:20:26 GMT
Abs was the Shrews captain when they finished 3rd
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 26, 2019 20:21:57 GMT
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Post by craggo on Oct 26, 2019 20:51:39 GMT
Captain needs to be a starter. Popular with the rest of the squad. Good at talking. Not always a shouter. We are ok-ish with ours. Around the football World, I would say John Terry was the ideal one. Not on about the personal stuff btw.
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Post by badengas on Oct 26, 2019 22:02:51 GMT
JCH
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 22:44:45 GMT
Leaders will always lead, regardless of whether they wear an arm bound or throw a coin in the air prior to kick off. Appoint a Club captain and give the arm band and other match day ceremonial duties to the oldest player picked in the starting 11.
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Post by noblegas on Oct 27, 2019 20:11:24 GMT
As a slightly leftfield shout- what about Liam Sercombe? Could it help add authority to his performances in the centre of the park.
Best captain, Stuart Pearce.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Oct 29, 2019 11:44:18 GMT
I think you look to a captain when things aren't going your way.... for calmness, motivation, communication and heart and soul. When things are going right, you hardly notice them. Much like good managers. And vice versa. The captain should know when to pull a player up and when to drill the team. I am talking more from a rugby perspective as I have experience of that but I think there is no difference really. A captain should command respect and be able to recognise where there is weakness but also to give encouragement, when people are doing well. Of the ones mentioned by gashead1981 I’d say craig would be my choice for this season but then look at it again as I can’t see him being longterm. |
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Post by simonj on Oct 29, 2019 14:50:03 GMT
Truly how important is it in football? You need a commanding keeper, CH and Central mid. The spine of the side. Too much is being made out of Clarke being captain. Tone is older and steady, but has a costly mistake in him, most games. Ollie is out of touch, so what, stick him on the bench and give the armband to Kilgour, get it done. Yes he is young, what I'm trying to say is every player needs to have the right attitude.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Oct 29, 2019 18:54:45 GMT
There are a number of factors to consider when making a player captain. First the player must be a first choice for his position in the team. Secondly, he must possess leadership skills whereby the other players both listen and respect him.
At present, Tony Craig is the obvious choice for the season. Yes, he made a costly mistake on Saturday but that has been a rarity this season. He has captained more successful teams than Rovers and has vast experience in the role.
Currently, Clarke is not playing well enough to command a regular place in central midfield. In addition, don't saddle Kilgour with extra responsibilities. He's made relatively few appearances and is still learning his trade alongside more experienced central defenders.
In conclusion, Craig as captain for rest of the season. Next season, who knows and let's be pleased that Craig is passing on his experience to both Davies and Kilgour. Those two guys will be real assets in the future as Craig's playing career winds down.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 8:56:05 GMT
Abs was the Shrews captain when they finished 3rd The bloke from Five? What a nause! |
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Post by peterparker on Oct 30, 2019 9:03:07 GMT
Captaincy the biggest load of bollox in football.
A narrative that has been allowed to be perpetuated to be of more importance than it is.
It shouldn't matter whether Ollie has the armband, Craig, Ogogo whomever.
JCH is more important to the team than deciding who the captain is. JCH breeds confidence in the team and makes the team play better as a result.
I maintain, if players are looking around for a bloke in an armband when things aren't going right, then the problem is the player looking around and not the bloke with it on
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Post by endicotton on Oct 30, 2019 9:03:57 GMT
Anssi Jaakola with his experience of playing internationally, at a higher level in England in the championship and in various other countries would probably be a good choice. Not entirely sure how good his english is but having been in the country a few years I'm sure he'll have a pretty good understanding of the language.
The only problem I would have with Craig staying as a permenant captain is the fact that he probably won't be a first team starter for us next season based on his age which means we would more than likely need to change captain again next season.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Oct 31, 2019 19:26:47 GMT
I don't subscribe to the view that the role of football captaincy is meaningless. A good captain can both motivate and inspire his colleagues to greater heights. I suppose the classic example was Bobby Moore. He was not the quickest or strongest. But what a leader! Everybody in that World Cup winning team looked up to Bobby and there were some strong characters in that team.
Let's not worry about the captaincy for next season. Whilst Craig is in the team on merit he is that leader. Clearly, his better days are behind him but he is still a capable defender at this level. He knows all the tricks of the trade and the other two lads with him at the back will benefit from his experience for the remainder of this season.
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Post by SleepyGas on Nov 1, 2019 14:27:51 GMT
Captaincy the biggest load of bollox in football. A narrative that has been allowed to be perpetuated to be of more importance than it is. It shouldn't matter whether Ollie has the armband, Craig, Ogogo whomever. JCH is more important to the team than deciding who the captain is. JCH breeds confidence in the team and makes the team play better as a result. I maintain, if players are looking around for a bloke in an armband when things aren't going right, then the problem is the player looking around and not the bloke with it on Heeeeeeeeeeeey! They have that VERY important job of picking heads or tails in the coin toss (and, if successful, choosing the ends or kick off). This is a HUGE responsibility - not everyone can do it. |
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Post by socrates on Nov 1, 2019 19:57:49 GMT
I don't subscribe to the view that the role of football captaincy is meaningless. A good captain can both motivate and inspire his colleagues to greater heights. I suppose the classic example was Bobby Moore. He was not the quickest or strongest. But what a leader! Everybody in that World Cup winning team looked up to Bobby and there were some strong characters in that team. Let's not worry about the captaincy for next season. Whilst Craig is in the team on merit he is that leader. Clearly, his better days are behind him but he is still a capable defender at this level. He knows all the tricks of the trade and the other two lads with him at the back will benefit from his experience for the remainder of this season. Absolutely and he’ll continue to do that whether he’s wearing an armband or not. |
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