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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 17, 2019 13:53:00 GMT
From what I heard there didn’t sound like we had actually been looking for a manager yet, he was actually saying we had CVs coming in. He also sounded more idealistic about getting a new manager in but no commitment to actually working to that schedule at all, which was how the commentary tweets from Ali Durden and Bristol Post seemed to suggest
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Post by gasandelectricity on Dec 17, 2019 13:54:31 GMT
Also what he was saying seemed to poo poo the idea that players would have to be sold - just a good deal would not be rejected. The two players out could easily be Bernard Mensah, Gavin Reilly and/or Kyle bennett who has probably played his last game for us unless new manager takes a liking to him
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Post by garystash on Dec 17, 2019 13:58:02 GMT
From what I heard there didn’t sound like we had actually been looking for a manager yet, he was actually saying we had CVs coming in. He also sounded more idealistic about getting a new manager in but no commitment to actually working to that schedule at all, which was how the commentary tweets from Ali Durden and Bristol Post seemed to suggest Sounded to me like he wants to recruit from within again. In fairness that didn't go badly last time - until now!
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Post by outsidehitter30 on Dec 17, 2019 14:00:18 GMT
Thought it was a good interview under the circumstances! Tried to answer as much as he could.
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Post by neilv93 on Dec 17, 2019 14:03:00 GMT
What? He's the CEO? Is that not literally one of his jobs? If not, then who? It’s never been his job from the start- and that’s from his own mouth according to someone who talked to him just after he first joined. He’s played a big role in the community engagement stuff. People got carried away and came to the conclusion that he’s been secretly organising some super-duper stadium. Spoiler alert: He hasn’t. That is lunacy if so though. He's our CEO - we better not be paying him a fat cheque to show face in schools and attend a few charity galas. The fact that he was so dismissive is infuriating too. "It's not my job"... so? You have no idea on the progress?! The Bristol Rovers CEO is unaware of any stadium/training ground progress because it's "not within his remit". Absolute farce.
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Post by RD on Dec 17, 2019 14:03:28 GMT
Also found the comment about appointing externally "if they're available" interesting - albeit I may be reading too much in to it.
My guess is we want the cheap option - so internal is ideal (and arguably does have benefits around continuity), but any managers out of work could be considered too - but I don't think we'll be paying compensation to get anyone...
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Post by RD on Dec 17, 2019 14:04:23 GMT
It’s never been his job from the start- and that’s from his own mouth according to someone who talked to him just after he first joined. He’s played a big role in the community engagement stuff. People got carried away and came to the conclusion that he’s been secretly organising some super-duper stadium. Spoiler alert: He hasn’t. That is lunacy if so though. He's our CEO - we better not be paying him a fat cheque to show face in schools and attend a few charity galas. The fact that he was so dismissive is infuriating too. "It's not my job"... so? You have no idea on the progress?! The Bristol Rovers CEO is unaware of any stadium/training ground progress because it's "not within his remit". Absolute farce. Have you listened to the interview? If not it's worthwhile IMO - don't get me wrong, still dismissive etc. but not to the extreme extent the quote from the BP portrays.
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Post by ilfracombegas on Dec 17, 2019 14:06:15 GMT
Having just listened to the interview, to me it is apparent that GC / Mansfield definitely went behind the Boards backs. Our CEO clearly states he did not have plans to speak to GC until after the match YET GC gave the interview he did, and allegedly told the players. In light of this I would be asking questions of the Authorities as this was totally underhand.
The second thing I feel is that whoever manages the club should be prepared to move to the Bristol area and not have their family in Timbuktu or wherever, then this could not be an excuse ever again.
I hope the managerial situation is sorted sooner rather than later as the January transfer window is looming, and any new manager will need involvement
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Post by tommym9 on Dec 17, 2019 14:07:05 GMT
Anyone of the opinion this is 10 times better than any presser that Hamer gave?
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Post by gregsy on Dec 17, 2019 14:10:17 GMT
Anyone of the opinion this is 10 times better than any presser that Hamer gave? I could do a presser 9 times better than hamer though.... And i ain't media trained....
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Post by Somersetgas on Dec 17, 2019 14:11:23 GMT
He didn’t have an issue with the training facilities when on Geoff Twentymans show earlier this year, kept going on about how they were better than Sheffield Wednesdays. Good riddance to the negative dour lying idiot. The bit in bold is the only thing we actually have evidence for. The rest of unsubstantiated, yet when enough people post it on here it seems to become fact. Winds me right up. Very true, but I found his mannerisms after games while being interviewed as dour and negative if not quite as snappy as DC was with Ed Hadwin.
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Post by pucklegas on Dec 17, 2019 14:14:59 GMT
Liked Martyns interview no crazy gang nonsense business like and professional with no BS.
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Post by faggotygas on Dec 17, 2019 14:15:57 GMT
I can't agree, not once you add in the massive increase in wage bill - at least double, likely ripple our current wage bill. There's a reason that most Championship clubs make a loss. You're not forced to increase the wage bill significantly though. Burton didn't and they made a record profit. Once you add in TV revenue, gate receipts, increased sponsorship revenue to prize money, you can make a lot of money from being in the championship for one season if you are savvy enough. They did too, they were paying £10 million a year in wages, and they didn't exactly come out minted. They were, of course, relegated and are now below us.
2015/16 profit nil, wages around £3.5m (similar to us) 2016/17 wages £7.7m, profit £1,344,038 2017/18 wages £10m, transfer income £1.4m. Matchday revenue £1.8m, broadcast & commercial revenue £11.1m, profit £500,316 (so a loss of £1.1m ignoring transfers).
If you assume that they've not made a loss this year (unlikely), then they've made £1m quid ignoring transfers, which wouldn't even get us started on a new training ground. It ain't no promised land.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 14:17:40 GMT
If you asked him that question the answer he would give would depend on whether he had any better offers on the table. Wouldn't it be better to stick to the facts rather than making sh** up? There are plenty of facts to moan about without going into unsubstantiated rumours. Well he was happy with them a year ago ffs!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 14:23:42 GMT
Having just listened to the interview, to me it is apparent that GC / Mansfield definitely went behind the Boards backs. Our CEO clearly states he did not have plans to speak to GC until after the match YET GC gave the interview he did, and allegedly told the players. In light of this I would be asking questions of the Authorities as this was totally underhand. The second thing I feel is that whoever manages the club should be prepared to move to the Bristol area and not have their family in Timbuktu or wherever, then this could not be an excuse ever again. I hope the managerial situation is sorted sooner rather than later as the January transfer window is looming, and any new manager will need involvement DC commuted from Eastleigh for years don’t forget. It all comes down to how much commitment to the job you have. Cocko’s commitment was only to himself. Not all managers are like that.
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Post by adrian301 on Dec 17, 2019 14:24:34 GMT
My take on all this is...... typical BRFC really.
GC cheaper internal promotion to manager. Kept us up, mid table finish. Really good achievement.
Recruited well, within tight budget restraints.
New season, effective football get's us to 4th.
Never quite got the love and admiration he thinks it deserved. Head turned by a club who did admire him. Chance to take a job nearer to home, takes it.
We just go again....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 14:28:32 GMT
Thought it was a great interview - way better than the Ghost of Christmas Past Hamer.
We move on now ....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 14:29:49 GMT
Wouldn't have happened on Hamer's watch
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Post by gregsy on Dec 17, 2019 14:30:47 GMT
Thought it was a great interview - way better than the Ghost of Christmas Past Hamer. We move on now .... I see what you've done there.... You've subliminally called Hamer a Muppet....
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Post by axegas on Dec 17, 2019 14:45:10 GMT
You're not forced to increase the wage bill significantly though. Burton didn't and they made a record profit. Once you add in TV revenue, gate receipts, increased sponsorship revenue to prize money, you can make a lot of money from being in the championship for one season if you are savvy enough. They did too, they were paying £10 million a year in wages, and they didn't exactly come out minted. They were, of course, relegated and are now below us.
2015/16 profit nil, wages around £3.5m (similar to us) 2016/17 wages £7.7m, profit £1,344,038 2017/18 wages £10m, transfer income £1.4m. Matchday revenue £1.8m, broadcast & commercial revenue £11.1m, profit £500,316 (so a loss of £1.1m ignoring transfers).
If you assume that they've not made a loss this year (unlikely), then they've made £1m quid ignoring transfers, which wouldn't even get us started on a new training ground. It ain't no promised land.
So going by those figures you've provided, they made a profit of £1.84m over two years then? Sure you can say transfers don't count but if we got to the championship and players like THD and Kilgour performed consistently, we would be looking making considerably more money on them than we will now. Quite frankly if we were to make anything like £1.84m profit, that would change the game for us considering we lose £3m a year currently.
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