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Post by markczgas on Nov 6, 2014 21:06:20 GMT
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Post by Ryan on Nov 6, 2014 21:27:15 GMT
He's played 12 minutes of Championship football as far as I can find, not much experience to be fair! Shown before he can score at this level with 2 in 7 for Braintree. At that age I always think players may struggle coming on loan from clubs like Watford, Fulham etc as the conference can be quite physical so I think most players will either excel with it or really struggle. Hard to say what impact he will have for them, hopefully not a big one. |
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Post by markczgas on Nov 6, 2014 21:32:30 GMT
He's played 12 minutes of Championship football as far as I can find, not much experience to be fair! Shown before he can score at this level with 2 in 7 for Braintree. At that age I always think players may struggle coming on loan from clubs like Watford, Fulham etc as the conference can be quite physical so I think most players will either excel with it or really struggle. Hard to say what impact he will have for them, hopefully not a big one. Good point Ryan - about the physical stuff. I would rather we signed players permanently (even if it's to the end of the season) and ones who have played in the league if possible. |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Nov 6, 2014 21:35:14 GMT
43 goals and counting for Barnet. They are firing their way back into the football league.
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Post by Ryan on Nov 6, 2014 21:37:38 GMT
He's played 12 minutes of Championship football as far as I can find, not much experience to be fair! Shown before he can score at this level with 2 in 7 for Braintree. At that age I always think players may struggle coming on loan from clubs like Watford, Fulham etc as the conference can be quite physical so I think most players will either excel with it or really struggle. Hard to say what impact he will have for them, hopefully not a big one. Good point Ryan - about the physical stuff. I would rather we signed players permanently (even if it's to the end of the season) and ones who have played in the league if possible. The trouble is how many good players are without a club in November? I have no issues with loan signings, I'd prefer them to be 3 months instead of 1 but I think you can see in this league that certain players suit certain clubs and playstyles. Granted it was a few years ago but who would have said that Akinde would be among the leading scorers in a league after the performance of when he played for us?
Cunnington has done his job since coming in, shame he's going so early but unless Brunt steps up I feel we'd need a striker on a month long loan deal until january when we can start looking at players from clubs for dare I say it a transfer fee? Despite the stick that Taylor gets, I think he's a good footballer, Harrison is still hit and miss and Jamie White seems to be quite far off regular starts - none of them have much of a physical presence which I think we will miss after Cunny goes back to Cambridge. |
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Post by markczgas on Nov 6, 2014 21:45:42 GMT
Good point Ryan - about the physical stuff. I would rather we signed players permanently (even if it's to the end of the season) and ones who have played in the league if possible. The trouble is how many good players are without a club in November? I have no issues with loan signings, I'd prefer them to be 3 months instead of 1 but I think you can see in this league that certain players suit certain clubs and playstyles. Granted it was a few years ago but who would have said that Akinde would be among the leading scorers in a league after the performance of when he played for us?
Cunnington has done his job since coming in, shame he's going so early but unless Brunt steps up I feel we'd need a striker on a month long loan deal until january when we can start looking at players from clubs for dare I say it a transfer fee? Despite the stick that Taylor gets, I think he's a good footballer, Harrison is still hit and miss and Jamie White seems to be quite far off regular starts - none of them have much of a physical presence which I think we will miss after Cunny goes back to Cambridge.If Brunt gets back to what he did for us before then he has got so much more than Cunny, don't you think ? Agree with you about Taylor - good player but his misses have been unforgivable. You've got to remember when Akinde was with us we were in L1 weren't we ? and even if it was L2 - that's not The Conference. He is big, strong and quick - and unfortunately we haven't got that up front have we ? |
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Post by Ryan on Nov 6, 2014 22:14:12 GMT
The trouble is how many good players are without a club in November? I have no issues with loan signings, I'd prefer them to be 3 months instead of 1 but I think you can see in this league that certain players suit certain clubs and playstyles. Granted it was a few years ago but who would have said that Akinde would be among the leading scorers in a league after the performance of when he played for us?
Cunnington has done his job since coming in, shame he's going so early but unless Brunt steps up I feel we'd need a striker on a month long loan deal until january when we can start looking at players from clubs for dare I say it a transfer fee? Despite the stick that Taylor gets, I think he's a good footballer, Harrison is still hit and miss and Jamie White seems to be quite far off regular starts - none of them have much of a physical presence which I think we will miss after Cunny goes back to Cambridge.If Brunt gets back to what he did for us before then he has got so much more than Cunny, don't you think ? Agree with you about Taylor - good player but his misses have been unforgivable. You've got to remember when Akinde was with us we were in L1 weren't we ? and even if it was L2 - that's not The Conference. He is big, strong and quick - and unfortunately we haven't got that up front have we ? I think if we put some decent crosses in the box then Cunny would be better than Brunt, but for what we're asking of a player currently (a striker to do everything himself) I think Brunt is better suited as he has more pace about him although when I've seen him in the past couple of seasons he's looked very far off the pace but I'd love him to prove me wrong. Hopefully this loan move will do Brunt the world of good, because we can't afford any passengers. If we want to be where Barnet are then we need to be winning every game pretty much, even to be in the play offs at the moment you need to be in real good form. We can't afford one of our main strikers to take 4-5 games to find his feet. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 22:28:00 GMT
Loans are usefull and I think the one we have looks promising and good cover for Monkhouse. However I think if it is going to happen for us this season its down to the guys we have here now. There is still time for our forwards to find their scoring boots, they are capable it just needs that spark and the goals will flow hopefully sooner rather than later. UTG |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Nov 7, 2014 7:29:35 GMT
Loans are usefull and I think the one we have looks promising and good cover for Monkhouse. However I think if it is going to happen for us this season its down to the guys we have here now. There is still time for our forwards to find their scoring boots, they are capable it just needs that spark and the goals will flow hopefully sooner rather than later. UTG We said that though when Taylor got his first from open play. There's only so many sitters you can miss. |
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Post by RD on Nov 7, 2014 8:10:36 GMT
Loans are usefull and I think the one we have looks promising and good cover for Monkhouse. However I think if it is going to happen for us this season its down to the guys we have here now. There is still time for our forwards to find their scoring boots, they are capable it just needs that spark and the goals will flow hopefully sooner rather than later. UTG We said that though when Taylor got his first from open play. There's only so many sitters you can miss. Agreed. Unfortunately, Matt Taylor is not a striker. Why? Because he isn't a goalscorer. People will point to a little scoring streak he had at Chester, but that was clearly a purple patch. At no point has he looked like a natural finisher - if he was, he would have buried any one of the 3,500 one-on-one opportunities he's had now. Don't get me wrong, I love his work-rate and he does offer something. But that something isn't goals. I certainly don't want to release him as his work-rate and application is spot on. But we definitely need at least one new striker. Really we could do with two. We don't neccessarily need someone with power and/or pace - just someone who's clinical and knows where the net is - someone like Jamie Cureton for example (and I'm not actually suggesting him, I'm just using him as an example). |
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Post by mehewmagic on Nov 7, 2014 17:24:40 GMT
43 goals and counting for Barnet. They are firing their way back into the football league. trying to be positive... the good news is that despite that,and us only scoring 21, we are only 10 points behind them, have a game in hand, and will be playing them at home soon. Imagine how high we could get if we could score more goals! |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Nov 7, 2014 18:43:13 GMT
43 goals and counting for Barnet. They are firing their way back into the football league. trying to be positive... the good news is that despite that,and us only scoring 21, we are only 10 points behind them, have a game in hand, and will be playing them at home soon. Imagine how high we could get if we could score more goals! Absolutely. We have one of the best defenses in the division, but quite possibly the weakest strike force. Similar to last season really. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 21:13:04 GMT
We said that though when Taylor got his first from open play. There's only so many sitters you can miss. Agreed. Unfortunately, Matt Taylor is not a striker. Why? Because he isn't a goalscorer. People will point to a little scoring streak he had at Chester, but that was clearly a purple patch. At no point has he looked like a natural finisher - if he was, he would have buried any one of the 3,500 one-on-one opportunities he's had now. Don't get me wrong, I love his work-rate and he does offer something. But that something isn't goals. I certainly don't want to release him as his work-rate and application is spot on. But we definitely need at least one new striker. Really we could do with two. We don't neccessarily need someone with power and/or pace - just someone who's clinical and knows where the net is - someone like Jamie Cureton for example (and I'm not actually suggesting him, I'm just using him as an example). Well he has scored 31 in 100 games so far in his career and he is only 23 years old fair enough he hasn't been getting many for us so far, but his career stats would sugest he is a capable striker. I think his luck has got to change soon. We could do with another striker whether we will be able to find one now is the question. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 7, 2014 23:54:40 GMT
Agreed. Unfortunately, Matt Taylor is not a striker. Why? Because he isn't a goalscorer. People will point to a little scoring streak he had at Chester, but that was clearly a purple patch. At no point has he looked like a natural finisher - if he was, he would have buried any one of the 3,500 one-on-one opportunities he's had now. Don't get me wrong, I love his work-rate and he does offer something. But that something isn't goals. I certainly don't want to release him as his work-rate and application is spot on. But we definitely need at least one new striker. Really we could do with two. We don't neccessarily need someone with power and/or pace - just someone who's clinical and knows where the net is - someone like Jamie Cureton for example (and I'm not actually suggesting him, I'm just using him as an example). Well he has scored 31 in 100 games so far in his career and he is only 23 years old fair enough he hasn't been getting many for us so far, but his career stats would sugest he is a capable striker. I think his luck has got to change soon. We could do with another striker whether we will be able to find one now is the question. He played some of those 100 games out wide as well, so his record isn't that bad. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 8, 2014 9:26:15 GMT
I assume he's played out wide as his previous clubs don't rate him as a striker?
Back to the OP I don't fans would be too impressed if we announced we'd signed a 19 year old to replace Cunnington??
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