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Post by pucklegas on Jan 19, 2020 8:42:15 GMT
Feel sorry for the travelling fans both the ones who travel a distance for home games and away, the time effort and expense is considerable, I cant do away due to child care. Can`t you find an adult that will take you? Made me laugh I'm 55 soon 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by althepirate on Jan 19, 2020 8:49:57 GMT
I am just concerned that people are not going to renew, it creates a self fulfilling prophecy. "The club will never invest in the team" will become the club cant afford anything else. :-( The club in some form and will survive after these chancers have gone, the football bubble will burst and the game will become unfashionable again. I can't see this happening especially in the short term. If we stop going it could well be the end of Bristol Rovers. We are already losing money a further reduction in attendances and the business could fold. This could still happen if we continue to go, but if we don't keep going we would contribute to the end of Bristol Rovers. I don't see your scenario, but who knows? A more likely possibility is Prem teams expanding to other towns and being in the EFL with their younger teams instead of us. This wouldn't be any different than Tesco expanding all over the country and killing the corner shops. I personally don't want this to happen and I will keep going whatever happens as it's the only thing I can do to keep our club going. We are just fans we don't own the club we don't have any control, some fans need to realise this. To keep supporting is all we can do to keep Bristol Rovers.
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Post by axegas on Jan 19, 2020 8:50:27 GMT
I wish someone at the club could have read of this thread, specifically someone higher up like Starnes, Gorringe or even Wael. Now I know, Gaschat might not be representative of the wider fan base but the fact that 25 out of 68 respondents have said they won’t be renewing and a further 11 have said they aren’t sure, is a damning indictment of the way people feel towards the club at the moment.
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Post by peterparker on Jan 19, 2020 9:38:51 GMT
Dont know why I wouldnt renew
The question I ask is why do I do it? Its not about ambition really. I could armchair support better clubs, equally i could get a ST for Mangotsfield.
Up the pub later with the father in law and the brother in law that will no doubt get uptight if its 0-0 at HT despite being a million points clear
Whay do any of us do it?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 19, 2020 9:46:40 GMT
Dont know why I wouldnt renew The question I ask is why do I do it? Its not about ambition really. I could armchair support better clubs, equally i could get a ST for Mangotsfield. Up the pub later with the father in law and the brother in law that will no doubt get uptight if its 0-0 at HT despite being a million points clear Whay do any of us do it? A better question must be why do certain fans stop renewing, Rovers will always get the few thousand who have nothing better to do with their money (including me!) it's the ones who decide to spend it elsewhere who are the concern.
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Post by xenongas on Jan 19, 2020 9:48:19 GMT
I'll be there again next season. I enjoy the social side of things even when the football is crap and the atmosphere is toxic. This existential debate seems to happen for some people most seasons though.
Everyone's got their own personal reasons for turning up every (other) Saturday and that is fair enough.
I don't buy some ways of thinking though. We all want progress but staying away in protest of the lack of investment smacks of a sense of entitlement that comes from only remembering 2 recent back-to-back promotions. If you are after a rich heavily investing businessman to really get behind, may I suggest seeking out other local clubs - you may find new friends with a similar mindset although perhaps not the success you're expecting (so still a chance to berate!).
It sometimes seems like there's a section who want to have their cake and eat it. Proud to be a gashead in name but don't really fancy it at the moment. They'll be back if we're in the playoffs come May. Yes, you've paid your (always hard earned) money to be involved, but like anything you've bought you must have expectations attached to your purchase. What are your expectations here? With something you must realise you have zero control over? Have you paid to come on a roller coaster but only want the bits going up?
I'm not saying it's enough to carry on with nothing changing but I don't understand when it's not enough anymore. You could have left when we were homeless. You could have left when we were non league. You could have left for footballing reasons for the majority of seasons.
Every gashead has spent their entire supporting life wanting and waiting for that next step up. It's the hope that kills you but also the hope that keeps you coming back. If your hope is gone then I'm sorry for you.
Football is a soap opera for people who insist they don't like soap operas. And the story lines at this club are some of the most farfetched, ridiculous ones you're likely to find.
It's enough for me. If it's not enough for you then good luck finding something you can get enthused about instead.
That was all a bit much for a Sunday morning. I'm going to bookmark this thread so I can repost my rant when this poll comes up next year... And the year after... And the year after...
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Post by althepirate on Jan 19, 2020 9:49:15 GMT
I wish someone at the club could have read of this thread, specifically someone higher up like Starnes, Gorringe or even Wael. Now I know, Gaschat might not be representative of the wider fan base but the fact that 25 out of 68 respondents have said they won’t be renewing and a further 11 have said they aren’t sure, is a damning indictment of the way people feel towards the club at the moment. Just realised I haven't voted! I think you are more likely to vote if you aren't renewing.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jan 19, 2020 11:09:41 GMT
If fans stop going they can rest in the knowledge that they have contributed to the club's demise. Like lambs walking into the slaughterhouse, what utter rubbish, all you are doing is lining the pockets of the current private equity company. Let’s all go and be happy clappy , good people have been driven out by this egomaniac. So you think money is being taken out of the club, and not going towards the £65K P/W losses?
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Post by Somersetgas on Jan 19, 2020 11:28:46 GMT
Like lambs walking into the slaughterhouse, what utter rubbish, all you are doing is lining the pockets of the current private equity company. Let’s all go and be happy clappy , good people have been driven out by this egomaniac. So you think money is being taken out of the club, and not going towards the £65K P/W losses? Who sanctioned the wages to make these losses? Who pays out for a London office, it’s not like Bristol to London is that far. Was it the grounds man? No it’s from the top, they are to blame for the current financial mess.
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Post by rusho'gas on Jan 19, 2020 13:05:27 GMT
I'll be there again next season. I enjoy the social side of things even when the football is crap and the atmosphere is toxic. This existential debate seems to happen for some people most seasons though.
Everyone's got their own personal reasons for turning up every (other) Saturday and that is fair enough.
I don't buy some ways of thinking though. We all want progress but staying away in protest of the lack of investment smacks of a sense of entitlement that comes from only remembering 2 recent back-to-back promotions. If you are after a rich heavily investing businessman to really get behind, may I suggest seeking out other local clubs - you may find new friends with a similar mindset although perhaps not the success you're expecting (so still a chance to berate!).
It sometimes seems like there's a section who want to have their cake and eat it. Proud to be a gashead in name but don't really fancy it at the moment. They'll be back if we're in the playoffs come May. Yes, you've paid your (always hard earned) money to be involved, but like anything you've bought you must have expectations attached to your purchase. What are your expectations here? With something you must realise you have zero control over? Have you paid to come on a roller coaster but only want the bits going up?
I'm not saying it's enough to carry on with nothing changing but I don't understand when it's not enough anymore. You could have left when we were homeless. You could have left when we were non league. You could have left for footballing reasons for the majority of seasons.
Every gashead has spent their entire supporting life wanting and waiting for that next step up. It's the hope that kills you but also the hope that keeps you coming back. If your hope is gone then I'm sorry for you.
Football is a soap opera for people who insist they don't like soap operas. And the story lines at this club are some of the most farfetched, ridiculous ones you're likely to find.
It's enough for me. If it's not enough for you then good luck finding something you can get enthused about instead.
That was all a bit much for a Sunday morning. I'm going to bookmark this thread so I can repost my rant when this poll comes up next year... And the year after... And the year after
This sums it up, lower division football is a soap opera. If you want to support a glory team from a remote control carry on. Rovers is a community, a miserable one at the moment, but still a community. No club, no community. You pay your money you take your choice (or not) as the case may be. For me, I will pay my money and renew and go and hope that it doesn't kill me, it's the hope that kills you apparently.
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Post by degas on Jan 19, 2020 13:29:42 GMT
I for one will be renewing.
I have to travel from Bracknell to watch the games and when we are in the place we currently are where things both on and off the pitch are not going well sometimes I do sometimes question my decision to renew.
However when I am at the stadium I realise how much I love the city I left 18 months ago after living in Bristol for 48 years. I normally stand at the back of the North terrace towards the left hand side of the goal. Although I do not know them I do love my fellow supporters who in that area all seem to be my age or older.......love the chat, laughs and characters there.
Cant see it changing for myself any time soon......we are a community. I think you feel that more when you are away from home if that makes sense.
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Post by baggins on Jan 19, 2020 13:35:31 GMT
So you think money is being taken out of the club, and not going towards the £65K P/W losses? Who sanctioned the wages to make these losses? Who pays out for a London office, it’s not like Bristol to London is that far. Was it the grounds man? No it’s from the top, they are to blame for the current financial mess. I thought fans were saying Wael wasn't backing Managers and their player choices and requests? Now you're blaming him for making losses due to the wages they're paying them? I can't work your reasoning.
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Post by althepirate on Jan 19, 2020 13:45:42 GMT
I'll be there again next season. I enjoy the social side of things even when the football is crap and the atmosphere is toxic. This existential debate seems to happen for some people most seasons though.
Everyone's got their own personal reasons for turning up every (other) Saturday and that is fair enough.
I don't buy some ways of thinking though. We all want progress but staying away in protest of the lack of investment smacks of a sense of entitlement that comes from only remembering 2 recent back-to-back promotions. If you are after a rich heavily investing businessman to really get behind, may I suggest seeking out other local clubs - you may find new friends with a similar mindset although perhaps not the success you're expecting (so still a chance to berate!).
It sometimes seems like there's a section who want to have their cake and eat it. Proud to be a gashead in name but don't really fancy it at the moment. They'll be back if we're in the playoffs come May. Yes, you've paid your (always hard earned) money to be involved, but like anything you've bought you must have expectations attached to your purchase. What are your expectations here? With something you must realise you have zero control over? Have you paid to come on a roller coaster but only want the bits going up?
I'm not saying it's enough to carry on with nothing changing but I don't understand when it's not enough anymore. You could have left when we were homeless. You could have left when we were non league. You could have left for footballing reasons for the majority of seasons.
Every gashead has spent their entire supporting life wanting and waiting for that next step up. It's the hope that kills you but also the hope that keeps you coming back. If your hope is gone then I'm sorry for you.
Football is a soap opera for people who insist they don't like soap operas. And the story lines at this club are some of the most farfetched, ridiculous ones you're likely to find.
It's enough for me. If it's not enough for you then good luck finding something you can get enthused about instead.
That was all a bit much for a Sunday morning. I'm going to bookmark this thread so I can repost my rant when this poll comes up next year... And the year after... And the year after
This sums it up, lower division football is a soap opera. If you want to support a glory team from a remote control carry on. Rovers is a community, a miserable one at the moment, but still a community. No club, no community.  You pay your money you take your choice (or not) as the case may be.  For me, I will pay my money and renew and go and hope that it doesn't kill me, it's the hope that kills you apparently. Don't worry mate it's all clubs whether they have money or not, it's the nature of the beast. Top clubs supporters have to watch millionaires play crap and then hear about them spending it in a casino until the early hours. Man U havent adequately replaced Ferguson Arsenal same with Wenger. Same abuse from fans just different names. The Gas for me over these every time.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 19, 2020 15:09:34 GMT
Undecided.
Depends on funds.
Some great points made here....more points than we've accrued since GC left.
One thing I will say, can judge the level of support when things are going poorly, not well.
Look at Pompey support! I'm trying to lead by example and turning up at home and selected away matches....the club need everyone's support in times of trouble and I want to do my bit.
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Post by miltongas on Jan 19, 2020 15:58:16 GMT
Lots of people have given reasons for both arguments. But one thing I struggle with is my own loyalty. I feel as a supporter - and one who has been loyal - since 1989 I owe it to the club to renew. After all taking away my season ticket won’t help the club or players in any way at all. But my question is why is loyalty only one way? The owners have shown very little to deserve my loyalty and the signs are that this will not improve. If it was a car I’d sell it and move on, if my partner treated me this badly I’d also leave. But for some reason I end up going back for more week in week out. In my personal life I’m in a new relationship and at the moment I’m half torn at spending time with my other half rather than watching dreadful football with results as they are. Things will have to be different for me to willingly rush into renewing my ticket at the first instance.
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Post by baggins on Jan 19, 2020 16:00:18 GMT
Lots of people have given reasons for both arguments. But one thing I struggle with is my own loyalty. I feel as a supporter - and one who has been loyal - since 1989 I owe it to the club to renew. After all taking away my season ticket won’t help the club or players in any way at all. But my question is why is loyalty only one way? The owners have shown very little to deserve my loyalty and the signs are that this will not improve. If it was a car I’d sell it and move on, if my partner treated me this badly I’d also leave. But for some reason I end up going back for more week in week out. In my personal life I’m in a new relationship and at the moment I’m half torn at spending time with my other half rather than watching dreadful football with results as they are. Things will have to be different for me to willingly rush into renewing my ticket at the first instance. The difference is, the Rovers will always be there. And they'll be cheaper.
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jan 19, 2020 16:44:11 GMT
So you think money is being taken out of the club, and not going towards the £65K P/W losses? Who sanctioned the wages to make these losses? Who pays out for a London office, it’s not like Bristol to London is that far. Was it the grounds man? No it’s from the top, they are to blame for the current financial mess. I don't get get your post, first you say they are taking money out of the club, now you say money is going to pay the clubs losses.
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Post by Somersetgas on Jan 19, 2020 16:49:51 GMT
Who sanctioned the wages to make these losses? Who pays out for a London office, it’s not like Bristol to London is that far. Was it the grounds man? No it’s from the top, they are to blame for the current financial mess. I don't get get your post, first you say they are taking money out of the club, now you say money is going to pay the clubs losses. Keep your rose tinted glasses on, everything is fine, In Wael we trust, let’s back the board like lemmings until we end up like Bury.New ground and a Training ground is just around the corner that we will never reach. Can you explain the use of a London Office? How many days a week is it used and for what club purposes?
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Post by South Stand Ultra on Jan 19, 2020 16:53:00 GMT
I don't get get your post, first you say they are taking money out of the club, now you say money is going to pay the clubs losses. Keep your rose tinted glasses on, everything is fine, In Wael we trust, let’s back the board like lemmings until we end up like Bury.New ground and a Training ground is just around the corner that we will never reach. Can you explain the use of a London Office? How many days a week is it used and for what club purposes? So are they taking money out and lining their own pockets or, putting it towards the debt? You didn't answer...
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Post by Somersetgas on Jan 19, 2020 16:57:48 GMT
Keep your rose tinted glasses on, everything is fine, In Wael we trust, let’s back the board like lemmings until we end up like Bury.New ground and a Training ground is just around the corner that we will never reach. Can you explain the use of a London Office? How many days a week is it used and for what club purposes? So are they taking money out and lining their own pockets or, putting it towards the debt? You didn't answer... What they are doing is increasing the debt that’s bloody obvious and unsustainable or in your world is it? Answer that question ? Can we carry on loosing 65k a week? Tye London office is blatantly lining his own pockets.
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