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Post by gaseous on Nov 8, 2014 21:48:37 GMT
How did Brunt get on today, I see he played the full 90, anybody go and can give an assessment on him.
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Post by Gashead17 on Nov 8, 2014 22:20:39 GMT
Looked like the Brunt of old! His hold up play was first class! linked up play well with the right strike partner could tear this league apart
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2014 22:22:58 GMT
Will not score goals
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Post by Gashead17 on Nov 8, 2014 22:25:54 GMT
That's why I said with the right strike partner.. Brunt was a massive plus today does need to add goals But fully fit are best striker by a mile
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 8, 2014 22:28:22 GMT
Agree totally with this. Back to his best and well worth a place.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2014 22:28:48 GMT
He is not a striker because he doesnt shoot or score. If you dont have strikes on goal. You are not a striker. We dont have any strikers
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 8, 2014 22:37:51 GMT
That's odd as who is the Brunt on the BBC match feed who had shots today??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2014 22:42:23 GMT
Did any of them threaten the goal?
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Post by k4gas on Nov 8, 2014 22:52:33 GMT
Looked pacy and threatening, great team play ... BUT didn't score, therefore jury's still out
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Post by kylegas on Nov 8, 2014 23:23:01 GMT
Looked like the Brunt of old! His hold up play was first class! linked up play well with the right strike partner could tear this league apart Really glad to hear this this, I only listened on the radio today but thought it sounded like he was really involved in all our forward play It was a great call from Clark to put him out on loan and a wise decision to give him another shot, we may have lost but I was really proud of our fight today, we really deserved something I'd like to see Harrison up front with brunt feeding off the big man rather then trying to be the target, also the new kid out wide sounded very good, he might just create the oppertunities a player like brunt can really capitalise on Up the gas! Bring on Alfreton!! |
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Post by Mancgas has left the building on Nov 9, 2014 14:59:48 GMT
Goodness gracious me - Brunt only turned 21 in May.
He is the type of player who will get better with age and games - big centre forwards often do. Take Nanki Wells.Bombed out by Carlisle at Brunt's age, then within months a hot prospect.Players change with time (especially those with injuries at young ages), often quickly. People only have to look at Jason Roberts career records to see what a difference a few months make.
I'm not saying Brunt, Harrison will be a Roberts or Wells but I vividly remember a 'Roberts out' campaign on the Rovers Forums back then until the first round of the FA Cup.
Many here will remember Jason ROberts and even Rickie Lambert not to mention Michael Smith being described as the worst ever players to wear the quarters, not for days or weeks, but for a number of months (almost a full season for Lambert - I won his short sponsorship on ebay for £80 as no one else wanted it)
On Taylor I'm getting exactly what I expected a link man who'll score 10 in a full season. That's all he's ever scored in a full season. DC knew that and probably didn't even need Soccerbase to check it. That's why the bloke is playing every week, he's delivering what the manager brought him in for.If he wasnt he wouldnt be playing.
On White I advocated signing him from Winchester, then Salisbury but am afraid he's the shadow of the player I saw back then.He was a real will o'the wisp type slight, fast over first 5 yards. Sadly he is barely recognisable in terms of lasting 90 mins full pace.He's on the bench as a goal poacher and frankly because we've got precious few options. Maybe he'll get his fitness back with full time conditioning who knows - if he does he'll be a real asset at that stage but I didn't even recognise the bloke in first pre season friendly despite having seen him play at least 30 times before.
Rovers fans this season have been the most impatient group of fans in our history, for good reason I guess, frustrated doesn't cover it. I guess the Twerton training gives us older ones a bit of experience watching a club on its arse trying to re-form.
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Post by cagastrophy on Nov 9, 2014 17:09:55 GMT
He is not a striker because he doesnt shoot or score. If you dont have strikes on goal. You are not a striker. We dont have any strikers No strikers but still 4th in the league, we really are the Barcelona of the conference!  |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 9, 2014 17:31:35 GMT
Goodness gracious me - Brunt only turned 21 in May. He is the type of player who will get better with age and games - big centre forwards often do. Take Nanki Wells.Bombed out by Carlisle at Brunt's age, then within months a hot prospect.Players change with time (especially those with injuries at young ages), often quickly. People only have to look at Jason Roberts career records to see what a difference a few months make. I'm not saying Brunt, Harrison will be a Roberts or Wells but I vividly remember a 'Roberts out' campaign on the Rovers Forums back then until the first round of the FA Cup. Many here will remember Jason ROberts and even Rickie Lambert not to mention Michael Smith being described as the worst ever players to wear the quarters, not for days or weeks, but for a number of months (almost a full season for Lambert - I won his short sponsorship on ebay for £80 as no one else wanted it) On Taylor I'm getting exactly what I expected a link man who'll score 10 in a full season. That's all he's ever scored in a full season. DC knew that and probably didn't even need Soccerbase to check it. That's why the bloke is playing every week, he's delivering what the manager brought him in for.If he wasnt he wouldnt be playing. On White I advocated signing him from Winchester, then Salisbury but am afraid he's the shadow of the player I saw back then.He was a real will o'the wisp type slight, fast over first 5 yards. Sadly he is barely recognisable in terms of lasting 90 mins full pace.He's on the bench as a goal poacher and frankly because we've got precious few options. Maybe he'll get his fitness back with full time conditioning who knows - if he does he'll be a real asset at that stage but I didn't even recognise the bloke in first pre season friendly despite having seen him play at least 30 times before. Rovers fans this season have been the most impatient group of fans in our history, for good reason I guess, frustrated doesn't cover it. I guess the Twerton training gives us older ones a bit of experience watching a club on its arse trying to re-form. I think your overlooking Brunt as already had two full seasons out with serious knee problems, it will be a minor medical miracle if he's still playing past his mid twenties hence why he's still with us this season. As far as White if he's lost it due to lack of fitness how did he manage to score 5 goals at the end of last season in an average Salisbury team? Either he let himself go big time over the summer or we're not playing to his strengths. Not sure what you are suggesting about Taylor as if DC's happy with his contribution then who supposed to scoring the goals, as even when fully fit Brunt's never been prolific. |
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Post by gaseous on Nov 9, 2014 20:05:51 GMT
Goodness gracious me - Brunt only turned 21 in May. He is the type of player who will get better with age and games - big centre forwards often do. Take Nanki Wells.Bombed out by Carlisle at Brunt's age, then within months a hot prospect.Players change with time (especially those with injuries at young ages), often quickly. People only have to look at Jason Roberts career records to see what a difference a few months make. I'm not saying Brunt, Harrison will be a Roberts or Wells but I vividly remember a 'Roberts out' campaign on the Rovers Forums back then until the first round of the FA Cup. Many here will remember Jason ROberts and even Rickie Lambert not to mention Michael Smith being described as the worst ever players to wear the quarters, not for days or weeks, but for a number of months (almost a full season for Lambert - I won his short sponsorship on ebay for £80 as no one else wanted it) On Taylor I'm getting exactly what I expected a link man who'll score 10 in a full season. That's all he's ever scored in a full season. DC knew that and probably didn't even need Soccerbase to check it. That's why the bloke is playing every week, he's delivering what the manager brought him in for.If he wasnt he wouldnt be playing. On White I advocated signing him from Winchester, then Salisbury but am afraid he's the shadow of the player I saw back then.He was a real will o'the wisp type slight, fast over first 5 yards. Sadly he is barely recognisable in terms of lasting 90 mins full pace.He's on the bench as a goal poacher and frankly because we've got precious few options. Maybe he'll get his fitness back with full time conditioning who knows - if he does he'll be a real asset at that stage but I didn't even recognise the bloke in first pre season friendly despite having seen him play at least 30 times before. Rovers fans this season have been the most impatient group of fans in our history, for good reason I guess, frustrated doesn't cover it. I guess the Twerton training gives us older ones a bit of experience watching a club on its arse trying to re-form. , it will be a minor medical miracle if he's still playing past his mid twenties hence why he's still with us this season. As far as White if he's lost it due to lack of fitness how did he manage to score 5 goals at the end of last season in an average Salisbury team? Either he let himself go big time over the summer or we're not playing to his strengths. Not sure what you are suggesting about Taylor as if DC's happy with his contribution then who supposed to scoring the goals, as even when fully fit Brunt's never been prolific. I agree with you topper, it's a long time out and it must be hard getting back to fitness and match sharpness, I hope he can get back there and with us too. It's good to see that he played well, i'm happy for him and hopefully that will benefit Rovers and ultimately us gasheads. IMO we still need a goal scorer and we have one on the bench in JW, a goal poacher by his own admission, he must be unfit to not get a game, we'll never know unless DC comes out and says.
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Post by dmacca65 on Nov 10, 2014 8:08:03 GMT
I think your overlooking Brunt as already had two full seasons out with serious knee problems, it will be a minor medical miracle if he's still playing past his mid twenties hence why he's still with us this season. As far as White if he's lost it due to lack of fitness how did he manage to score 5 goals at the end of last season in an average Salisbury team? Either he let himself go big time over the summer or we're not playing to his strengths. Not sure what you are suggesting about Taylor as if DC's happy with his contribution then who supposed to scoring the goals, as even when fully fit Brunt's never been prolific. I agree with you topper, it's a long time out and it must be hard getting back to fitness and match sharpness, I hope he can get back there and with us too. It's good to see that he played well, i'm happy for him and hopefully that will benefit Rovers and ultimately us gasheads. IMO we still need a goal scorer and we have one on the bench in JW, a goal poacher by his own admission, he must be unfit to not get a game, we'll never know unless DC comes out and says.
It would be good to have a full honest view from DC on White, I can't believe professional footballers can appear to be unfit for so long? Brunt is a different kettle of fish agree with the sentiments on him above wouldn't be surprised to see him hang up his boots anytime soon if he were to break down again. |
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 10, 2014 9:40:06 GMT
Brunt has now played 5 out of the last six games he has been available for and on saturday looked far more like the Brunt we knew. Let's not be writing him off with stupid statements about his long term future when it is all speculation. There was nothing in his performance Saturday to suggest he was going to break down. Yes he is going to get injuries but hopefully he is over the serious injuries and can now forge his career hopefully with us.
As regards White, if he is unfit 4 months into the season then he should be got rid of.Personally I think he should be given a chance to have a run of three or four games because surely he can't look any less likely than Taylor to score a goal.
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Post by mehewmagic on Nov 10, 2014 10:54:37 GMT
really good thread. some good views and analysis.
In general I like Ryan and would love to see him successful for us.
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Post by Mancgas has left the building on Nov 10, 2014 11:09:51 GMT
By unfit, I meant he's lost at least half the pace he had I obviously gave a poor explanation previously
Back then he was the type of player who'd react over a few yards far quicker than anyone around him and its that snap/ reaction that's been missing from games I've seem him play this season and during pre season.No one doubts his scoring technique, he's just very rarely looked like the old Jamie White in terms of getting to balls quicker than anyone else. Perhaps it was because he was playing Conference South and below that he looked sharper back then but I dont think so.
I've seen after Rovers games White getting extra conditioning work and routines to follow by himself, mostly from Stuart Sinclair.
Yes he scored at end of last season, but that masked what had been a poor season by his standards in terms of goals, 6 in 24 games leading into last 5 games.Indeed he came of the bench in 50% of his appearances last season, almost unthinkable after a first full season which brought 25 goals from 41 games.Further injuries may have further impacted his 'fitness'- I dont know didnt see him last season as I left work in the Salisbury area.
There's no doubt the Jamie White of old would be a great signing and from what I can see everyone is trying to help him find it, fact he's been on bench and not tore up the turf when he has started tells anyone he's not been found yet.
Sort of reminds me, at a much lower level of course, of Jamie Shore a player who we persevered with for a long time trying to get him back to anything like the match fitness he used to have because he would have been a massive asset.That didnt work out, hope Jamie White does.
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Post by GasAttacK on Nov 10, 2014 15:33:44 GMT
The stats don't lie, his goals return is awful and he didn't come that close or really look like scoring on Saturday.
However, his all round play was MUCH improved and his work rate couldn't be faulted.
If he can keep up that level of performance he might yet have a future with Rovers.
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