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Post by lpgas on Feb 2, 2020 21:48:41 GMT
I guess I am not the oldest, or the youngest on here. I have seen Rovers at Eastville, Twerton and the Mem. My first game January the 4th 1967. during this time I can say I have seen very few good seasons, but I remember us being in the Championship and seeing Chelsea, West Ham and a few other big clubs. Will I see that again? Probably not.
This season when we were fourth and had just beaten Ipswich I thought we were certs for the play offs. Yes we my not have won them, but I measure that as success. A lot of you on here bemoaned the GC style, but we were winning most games and scoring 4 at Shrewsbury, 2 at Ipswich and 4 against Southend wasn't boring and it said to me that we were slowly becoming more attack minded. Then of course GC left, and the rest is history.
Now all I here is, this season is a "right off," Garner needs "time", and "in a few seasons", and of "sustainability".
I suspect the sustainability is getting young players in, developing them and selling them on. Well it doesn't work and here's why in one word. Taylor. Sell your best players and at best you become stagnant, at worse you drop down the league. So do we want to be "sustainable" or do we want a rich owner to cover the loss when we are not doing well and reap the rewards when we are. Yes, I know we are a selling club, virtually every club is but at our level selling one good player can have a dramatic affect.
Regardless of the style of play crowds will always watch a winning team, and that is a fact. Thursday I listened to the "panel" on Twentyman's programme. A couple of them said they preferred "attractive football", even if it didn't bring success. I was quite astounded at this because I thought all supporters want their teams to be successful because I do, my biggest problem is my age. Am I going to be around and see us in the Championship? or even in a new ground? Again, probably not. But if we are changing and becoming an "attractive team" how long will I have to wait for them to be successful? 2 years? 5 years? 25 years? I might manage ten if I am lucky, but deep down I know that as every year passes the chance of sitting in a new stadium where I have a GOOD VIEW and not Mr Big Head in front of me, and we are playing Derby, Forest, and QPR and playing well is diminishing
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Post by markczgas on Feb 2, 2020 21:55:19 GMT
get your head down and have a kip.
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Post by axegas on Feb 2, 2020 22:01:02 GMT
Ok boomer.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 2, 2020 22:12:29 GMT
I was similar astounded the Gascast lads were saying yesterday they were looking forward to watching football under BG rather than being 3rd under GC (or words to that effect) it's also like younger fans have been brainwashed. Can you imagine Sheff U fans complaining because Wilder's grinding out results as they'd sooner by playing Norwich type football even if it meant they'd be in the bottom 3.
Uness the ALQ's sell up I can't see us having a new stadium for a decade plus unless a Lansdown type benefactor wants to invest in us. Although I don't really understand what the ALQ's intentions are anymore, why spend so much to gain so little?
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Post by brads213 on Feb 2, 2020 22:21:10 GMT
I guess I am not the oldest, or the youngest on here. I have seen Rovers at Eastville, Twerton and the Mem. My first game January the 4th 1967. during this time I can say I have seen very few good seasons, but I remember us being in the Championship and seeing Chelsea, West Ham and a few other big clubs. Will I see that again? Probably not. This season when we were fourth and had just beaten Ipswich I thought we were certs for the play offs. Yes we my not have won them, but I measure that as success. A lot of you on here bemoaned the GC style, but we were winning most games and scoring 4 at Shrewsbury, 2 at Ipswich and 4 against Southend wasn't boring and it said to me that we were slowly becoming more attack minded. Then of course GC left, and the rest is history. Now all I here is, this season is a "right off," Garner needs "time", and "in a few seasons", and of "sustainability". I suspect the sustainability is getting young players in, developing them and selling them on. Well it doesn't work and here's why in one word. Taylor. Sell your best players and at best you become stagnant, at worse you drop down the league. So do we want to be "sustainable" or do we want a rich owner to cover the loss when we are not doing well and reap the rewards when we are. Yes, I know we are a selling club, virtually every club is but at our level selling one good player can have a dramatic affect. Regardless of the style of play crowds will always watch a winning team, and that is a fact. Thursday I listened to the "panel" on Twentyman's programme. A couple of them said they preferred "attractive football", even if it didn't bring success. I was quite astounded at this because I thought all supporters want their teams to be successful because I do, my biggest problem is my age. Am I going to be around and see us in the Championship? or even in a new ground? Again, probably not. But if we are changing and becoming an "attractive team" how long will I have to wait for them to be successful? 2 years? 5 years? 25 years? I might manage ten if I am lucky, but deep down I know that as every year passes the chance of sitting in a new stadium where I have a GOOD VIEW and not Mr Big Head in front of me, and we are playing Derby, Forest, and QPR and playing well is diminishing Totally agree with you the new age fan wants attractive football regardless of the consequences they have no idea what we are about at the Rovers . If they want watch pretty football they can go and watch a prem team play on the tv. But I would rather grind out a result under GC than all of this fancy stuff
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Post by althepirate on Feb 2, 2020 22:41:54 GMT
It's Young v Old isn't it? On the pitch and on here The young will say the old are miserable gits and the old will say 'we've seen it all before and the young are naive' As I'm old I don't have much confidence in BG and if he does succeed the football could be sterile with no heart or emotion. Anybodys guess when he will be successful even if at all.
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Post by lpgas on Feb 2, 2020 22:50:12 GMT
I think the problem is they DO watch the Prem on TV and cannot understand why they don't see the same type of football on Saturdays at the Mem
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 22:54:56 GMT
So you've identified two key problems: Taylor leaving and GC leaving.
How exactly could we have prevented those two events? Both out of our control.
We now need to work on our future as best as possible.
No point in continuing to cry about what might have been had those two not chuffked us over.
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 2, 2020 23:17:16 GMT
I guess I am not the oldest, or the youngest on here. I have seen Rovers at Eastville, Twerton and the Mem. My first game January the 4th 1967. during this time I can say I have seen very few good seasons, but I remember us being in the Championship and seeing Chelsea, West Ham and a few other big clubs. Will I see that again? Probably not. This season when we were fourth and had just beaten Ipswich I thought we were certs for the play offs. Yes we my not have won them, but I measure that as success. A lot of you on here bemoaned the GC style, but we were winning most games and scoring 4 at Shrewsbury, 2 at Ipswich and 4 against Southend wasn't boring and it said to me that we were slowly becoming more attack minded. Then of course GC left, and the rest is history. Now all I here is, this season is a "right off," Garner needs "time", and "in a few seasons", and of "sustainability". I suspect the sustainability is getting young players in, developing them and selling them on. Well it doesn't work and here's why in one word. Taylor. Sell your best players and at best you become stagnant, at worse you drop down the league. So do we want to be "sustainable" or do we want a rich owner to cover the loss when we are not doing well and reap the rewards when we are. Yes, I know we are a selling club, virtually every club is but at our level selling one good player can have a dramatic affect. Regardless of the style of play crowds will always watch a winning team, and that is a fact. Thursday I listened to the "panel" on Twentyman's programme. A couple of them said they preferred "attractive football", even if it didn't bring success. I was quite astounded at this because I thought all supporters want their teams to be successful because I do, my biggest problem is my age. Am I going to be around and see us in the Championship? or even in a new ground? Again, probably not. But if we are changing and becoming an "attractive team" how long will I have to wait for them to be successful? 2 years? 5 years? 25 years? I might manage ten if I am lucky, but deep down I know that as every year passes the chance of sitting in a new stadium where I have a GOOD VIEW and not Mr Big Head in front of me, and we are playing Derby, Forest, and QPR and playing well is diminishing Whilst I sympathise with you that you feel pretty low about us at the moment, we are what we are a lower league club which, by definition, is a “selling club.” You’re the same vintage as me lp, started watching in 66/67 season at the Arsenal cup match (?). Yes we only get a few really good seasons but when they happen they are great. Not sure I agree that people come and watch “regardless of the style.” I reckon the crowds this season from September to December prove that despite doing very well people won’t just come if the style is seen as boring and not very good to watch. I’m sure had we continued to do well they may have come back but not, unfortunately, under GC. Enjoy the ride when the good seasons happen lp, it’s the only way to survive being as a gashead!😉 UTG!
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Post by norton gasbottle on Feb 3, 2020 0:15:42 GMT
I've watched some real rubbish this season and we have got away with it under GC Southend comes to mind First half awful, how did we get away with that; a false position also, I actually enjoyed the game against a very good Coventry side who have lost few games this season.BG has had a good Jan window,and if we get rid of some dead wood I feel it will be onwards and upwards.the new players coming in are pacey and look exciting prospects.I'm an old codger who has seen good and bad times.But find some of the negativity on here is appalling. Get behind the manager and team who on saturday looked like they were really playing for the manager..UTG...
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Post by completewingback on Feb 3, 2020 0:19:14 GMT
Most of this diatribe you wrote is meaningless because GC leaving was unexpected, and something BRFC had no control over. We were managerless.
You can, of course, be skeptical of BG as much as you'd like. It does nothing for anyone, however, to reminisce about beating Ipswich away. Those days are gone because GC wanted out. No "young fan" decided that. No "young fan" forced the club to sign Ben Garner either.
This, for me, reads like venting and looking for someone to blame for circumstances over which we've always had zero control over, like the rain or a plane crash.
And, as always, the next generation is to blame for everything.
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Post by gas1888 on Feb 3, 2020 0:35:50 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks topper gas is a total 🔔 end?
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Post by Icegas on Feb 3, 2020 3:59:58 GMT
I guess I am not the oldest, or the youngest on here. I have seen Rovers at Eastville, Twerton and the Mem. My first game January the 4th 1967. during this time I can say I have seen very few good seasons, but I remember us being in the Championship and seeing Chelsea, West Ham and a few other big clubs. Will I see that again? Probably not. This season when we were fourth and had just beaten Ipswich I thought we were certs for the play offs. Yes we my not have won them, but I measure that as success. A lot of you on here bemoaned the GC style, but we were winning most games and scoring 4 at Shrewsbury, 2 at Ipswich and 4 against Southend wasn't boring and it said to me that we were slowly becoming more attack minded. Then of course GC left, and the rest is history. Now all I here is, this season is a "right off," Garner needs "time", and "in a few seasons", and of "sustainability". I suspect the sustainability is getting young players in, developing them and selling them on. Well it doesn't work and here's why in one word. Taylor. Sell your best players and at best you become stagnant, at worse you drop down the league. So do we want to be "sustainable" or do we want a rich owner to cover the loss when we are not doing well and reap the rewards when we are. Yes, I know we are a selling club, virtually every club is but at our level selling one good player can have a dramatic affect. Regardless of the style of play crowds will always watch a winning team, and that is a fact. Thursday I listened to the "panel" on Twentyman's programme. A couple of them said they preferred "attractive football", even if it didn't bring success. I was quite astounded at this because I thought all supporters want their teams to be successful because I do, my biggest problem is my age. Am I going to be around and see us in the Championship? or even in a new ground? Again, probably not. But if we are changing and becoming an "attractive team" how long will I have to wait for them to be successful? 2 years? 5 years? 25 years? I might manage ten if I am lucky, but deep down I know that as every year passes the chance of sitting in a new stadium where I have a GOOD VIEW and not Mr Big Head in front of me, and we are playing Derby, Forest, and QPR and playing well is diminishing People forget that while we love Rovers and want them to win the club is indirectly apart of the entertainment industry and if the product sucks,even if the side is winning people will choose not to go as with GC. I love the gas but watching is one of my hobbies for me.If you cut me open I bleed blue and white and love this club more then I can explain, but I also see the sh** in between the trees as well. All most fans want to see is that the club is moving forward.
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Post by axegas on Feb 3, 2020 4:54:11 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks topper gas is a total 🔔 end? There’s no need for name calling mate, If you dislike his posts, why not attack them constructively?
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Post by endicotton on Feb 3, 2020 5:18:41 GMT
Tbf I wouldn't say I'm as interested in the football being easy on the eye as I am us winning. I've always believed as long as we got the result that was the most important thing and wasn't ever really too bothered how. When Rovers score I'm happy and I cheer regardless of how 'pretty' the goal/build up play was. I can understand what BG is trying to do in order to build for the future just always thought the result is the main thing. I'm 30 myself so probably somewhere inbetween the generations of our fans but I definitely think there's less patience/more expectation with the younger fans in general, not all ofcourse.
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Post by Congas on Feb 3, 2020 6:02:37 GMT
It's Young v Old isn't it? On the pitch and on here The young will say the old are miserable gits and the old will say 'we've seen it all before and the young are naive' As I'm old I don't have much confidence in BG and if he does succeed the football could be sterile with no heart or emotion. Anybodys guess when he will be successful even if at all. Yeah, watching the likes of Burnley will soon have them scurrying back
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 3, 2020 6:19:11 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks topper gas is a total 🔔 end? There’s no need for name calling mate, If you dislike his posts, why not attack them constructively? He probably couldn't if he tried? If we all agreed with each other it would be a boring forum, plus a depressing one of they agree with me lately and the OP!
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Post by althepirate on Feb 3, 2020 7:00:31 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks topper gas is a total 🔔 end? Yes because you're the only one who is a total 🔔 end
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Post by completewingback on Feb 3, 2020 8:20:03 GMT
Friendly reminder that many old-school gasheads wanted Darell "Two Promotions Back To Back" Clarke out after losing a few in the Conference.
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