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Post by twertonboy on Mar 29, 2020 16:20:04 GMT
With lockdown heading til June time, does this mean we’ve watched the last of certain players and can we offload the likes of Kyle Bennett and rip up his contract due to losses of revenue ? Just wondered if the FA will allow this
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 29, 2020 16:39:16 GMT
With lockdown heading til June time, does this mean we’ve watched the last of certain players and can we offload the likes of Kyle Bennett and rip up his contract due to losses of revenue ? Just wondered if the FA will allow this Wouldn't Bennett will have 12/18 months left after the summer so how would we be able to rip up his contract? |
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Post by aghast on Mar 29, 2020 21:21:33 GMT
With lockdown heading til June time, does this mean we’ve watched the last of certain players and can we offload the likes of Kyle Bennett and rip up his contract due to losses of revenue ? Just wondered if the FA will allow this Not the best of times to suggest things like that, regardless of what you think of him. Do you think other businesses should now take the chance to dump their employees while they are laid off? |
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Post by farmygas on Mar 29, 2020 21:45:26 GMT
With lockdown heading til June time, does this mean we’ve watched the last of certain players and can we offload the likes of Kyle Bennett and rip up his contract due to losses of revenue ? Just wondered if the FA will allow this Not the best of times to suggest things like that, regardless of what you think of him. Do you think other businesses should now take the chance to dump their employees while they are laid off? Yeah we're not Wetherspoons. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 21:49:11 GMT
I still believe anybody out of contract are likely to be released in june.
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Post by darkbluegas on Mar 29, 2020 22:22:18 GMT
I still believe anybody out of contract are likely to be released in june. I would imagine it’s certain that contacts won’t be renewed if there’s no prospect of any games being played. When football resumes we would still have the opportunity to re sign these players as it’s unlikely any other club would offer them a contract. I would imagine that would be the same across the board in leagues one and two. Then when football resumes later in the year there’d be a massive virtual player auction. |
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Post by Dr Gas on Mar 30, 2020 0:28:03 GMT
It is frequently bandied around that towards the end of the season, players raise their game to try to get a new contract. I cannot see that opportunity existing this season, as I cannot see it finishing before June 30th, if it finishes at all.
That raises the question, if the season does restart and does extend beyond June 30th, what would a club do about someone whose contract has expired? I guess they could play them on a per game contract or a monthly contract but what if they are tapped up or legitimately receive an offer from another club after 30th June? If it really detrimentally had an effect on a club's final position, it could be argued that the club had lost the players that were intended to see out the season, through no fault of their own and that they would not have been in such a position had the season finished on time: albeit that would be based on previous form and results could not, obviously, be guaranteed.
I do not envy the task of the decision makers at the FA , EFL or Prem.
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Post by landrover on Mar 30, 2020 10:04:46 GMT
Seeing as all contracts expire on June 30th each year then why not extend them for an extra 6 months. Anyone earning more than say £500 per week would be offered 50% of their contract. The £500 would be the minimum wage unless you were already under it. First year pro’s for example. No transfer movement between clubs until January 1st next year.
There’s bound to be pitfalls but I can’t think of any.
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Post by darkbluegas on Mar 30, 2020 10:58:22 GMT
Seeing as all contracts expire on June 30th each year then why not extend them for an extra 6 months. Anyone earning more than say £500 per week would be offered 50% of their contract. The £500 would be the minimum wage unless you were already under it. First year pro’s for example. No transfer movement between clubs until January 1st next year. There’s bound to be pitfalls but I can’t think of any. It’s a generous offer to someone you no longer have a contractural agreement with. Who would be paying this? Any arrangement to pay players not under contract would only hasten the demise of lower league clubs. Bearing in mind this season plenty of clubs have actually failed to pay players that are under contract. Non contracted players will become the responsibility of any government furlough scheme or have access to the funds built up by the PFA. Those funds are no small amount judging by the way they used to throw money at the CEO. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 30, 2020 13:03:50 GMT
Seeing as all contracts expire on June 30th each year then why not extend them for an extra 6 months. Anyone earning more than say £500 per week would be offered 50% of their contract. The £500 would be the minimum wage unless you were already under it. First year pro’s for example. No transfer movement between clubs until January 1st next year. There’s bound to be pitfalls but I can’t think of any. It’s a generous offer to someone you no longer have a contractural agreement with. Who would be paying this? Any arrangement to pay players not under contract would only hasten the demise of lower league clubs. Bearing in mind this season plenty of clubs have actually failed to pay players that are under contract. Non contracted players will become the responsibility of any government furlough scheme or have access to the funds built up by the PFA. Those funds are no small amount judging by the way they used to throw money at the CEO. The Government furlough scheme only relates to employees put on leave, our players will be simply out of contract so like any player out of work will have to seek the usual state benefits. The big issue for us is do we offer the likes of OC, TC(?) Mayo & Sercs etc new contracts, if so, what type of contract, or do we risk losing them to another L1/L2 club prepared to offer them a deal, we could start next season with just a handful of contracted players, assuming we make it! Perhaps we could buy Bennetts contract up i.e. he takes a guaranteed 50%(?) upfront now or risks getting nothing if we don't make it. |
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Post by darkbluegas on Mar 30, 2020 13:14:09 GMT
Sorry, I was being too specific with the use of the furlough scheme, it would fall into the bracket of universal credit etc unless we laid them off for a period.
I can’t imagine any of those being offered new contracts under the current circumstances. Restrictions on movements would appear to be in place until September in some form or another. I think the way the club is heading they would be unlikely to all get contracts under normal circumstances.
The next two years or so is going to be survival of the fittest. Many clubs will continue to pay stupid wages and will go bust. I think we may drop down a level or even two to preserve our long term future.
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Post by landrover on Mar 30, 2020 21:19:11 GMT
Sorry, I was being too specific with the use of the furlough scheme, it would fall into the bracket of universal credit etc unless we laid them off for a period. I can’t imagine any of those being offered new contracts under the current circumstances. Restrictions on movements would appear to be in place until September in some form or another. I think the way the club is heading they would be unlikely to all get contracts under normal circumstances. The next two years or so is going to be survival of the fittest. Many clubs will continue to pay stupid wages and will go bust. I think we may drop down a level or even two to preserve our long term future. I was assuming that this season was dead in the water and next season would start from fresh. I was thinking that it should apply to leagues 1 & 2. It would help some clubs to know where they stand and also be morally sound. |
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