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Post by gasandelectricity on Aug 14, 2020 9:35:06 GMT
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Post by puregas on Aug 14, 2020 9:42:49 GMT
Can fully understand where they're coming from, but can also appreciate those who want to provide something different.
If the club takes this stance, they need to be a little quicker off the mark in coming up with ideas, and new products. The face masks were an example, and have probably been the factor leading to this statement. The club didn't have any, only snoods, so somebody produced some great looking masks.
Marketing department needs to up their game.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Aug 14, 2020 9:44:26 GMT
So no other club can have tents for stands, portaloos for away supporters or a night watchman’s hut for a Santa’s Grotto without paying us image rights? Sit back and watch the money roll in....
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Post by peterparker on Aug 14, 2020 9:45:05 GMT
Can fully understand where they're coming from, but can also appreciate those who want to provide something different. If the club takes this stance, they need to be a little quicker off the mark in coming up with ideas, and new products. The face masks were an example, and have probably been the factor leading to this statement. The club didn't have any, only snoods, so somebody produced some great looking masks. Marketing department needs to up their game. True, but Rovers have also been working with the Terrace Store and presumably licensing their image/IP |
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Post by gasheadbou on Aug 14, 2020 9:54:33 GMT
Perhaps its a good time to re-open the club shop then. Reckon the £6 post and packaging is putting a lot of people buying official merchandise at the moment.
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Post by teanbiscuits on Aug 14, 2020 9:58:02 GMT
I wondered how long that would take!
I'd be very careful if I was posting anything in the iFollow VPN thread too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 10:05:33 GMT
Protecting intellectual property rights in any industry is essential, and the idea behind this statement is entirely sensible even if the wording has more than a touch of nasty legal threats behind it. But our so-called marketing saviour is only interested in maximising revenues and, with a lot of the merchandise (and frankly quite a lot of the so-called catering at the Mem), fails on quality and value-for-money. For example, the postage charges are simply a rip-off. They should be levied at cost. Yes, we all want to help the club, but basic economics states that if you overprice and there is plentiful supply, then demand drops. Better to price keenly and see demand rise. Total revenue for the club then increases. And with sensible prices and value-for-money products, we'd all be more inclined to buy official merchandise than look elsewhere.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2020 10:05:35 GMT
I wondered how long that would take! I'd be very careful if I was posting anything in the iFollow VPN thread too. Any money paid to iFollow goes to the club not "external sources"? |
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 14, 2020 10:09:21 GMT
The popularity of these unlicensed products in previous years has been down to the very poor quality/poor selection of goods available through the club.
Most of the product innovation has come from independents and I would encourage the club to work with these to ensure that fans can be offered products that are worth buying.
Examples include Paine Profitt, A Guy Called Minty, Cross Swords 1883, etc. I'm not sure whether the products from any of these would fall foul of this tougher stance.
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Post by stroudgas93 on Aug 14, 2020 10:14:22 GMT
The popularity of these unlicensed products in previous years has been down to the very poor quality/poor selection of goods available through the club. Most of the product innovation has come from independents and I would encourage the club to work with these to ensure that fans can be offered products that are worth buying. Examples include Paine Profitt, A Guy Called Minty, Cross Swords 1883, etc. I'm not sure whether the products from any of these would fall foul of this tougher stance. Do they not sell some of the Cross Swords brand in the club shop, could have sworn ive seen a few of their bits in there at points. |
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 14, 2020 10:18:55 GMT
I've got a load of Bristol Rovvers replica kits for sale in the famous white and blue segments
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Post by peterparker on Aug 14, 2020 10:19:29 GMT
The popularity of these unlicensed products in previous years has been down to the very poor quality/poor selection of goods available through the club. Most of the product innovation has come from independents and I would encourage the club to work with these to ensure that fans can be offered products that are worth buying. Examples include Paine Profitt, A Guy Called Minty, Cross Swords 1883, etc. I'm not sure whether the products from any of these would fall foul of this tougher stance. Do they not sell some of the Cross Swords brand in the club shop, could have sworn ive seen a few of their bits in there at points. They have, although I don't know what the deal is. Rovers have linked up with The Terrace Store like other clubs to improve/expand the range of merchandise available. I am sure the club will work with anyone who has something worthwhile to sell and do it with a proper agreement in place |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 14, 2020 10:21:11 GMT
This is mainly related to the face masks I believe.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 10:25:35 GMT
Can fully understand where they're coming from, but can also appreciate those who want to provide something different. If the club takes this stance, they need to be a little quicker off the mark in coming up with ideas, and new products. The face masks were an example, and have probably been the factor leading to this statement. The club didn't have any, only snoods, so somebody produced some great looking masks. Marketing department needs to up their game. Regardless of their ability to produce product in a timely manner, they are absolutely right to protect their brand and copyright. People complain about the lack of professionalism and then complain when they act professionally. Jesus Christ |
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 14, 2020 10:29:39 GMT
Do they not sell some of the Cross Swords brand in the club shop, could have sworn ive seen a few of their bits in there at points. They have, although I don't know what the deal is. Rovers have linked up with The Terrace Store like other clubs to improve/expand the range of merchandise available. I am sure the club will work with anyone who has something worthwhile to sell and do it with a proper agreement in place I think the individuals/brands mentioned have worked constructively with the club. The Terrace Store being another example - so these are the good examples.
I just wanted to make the point that these independents have been very creative and delivered attractive products. You'd hope this creativity would not be stifled.
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Post by teanbiscuits on Aug 14, 2020 10:33:33 GMT
I wondered how long that would take! I'd be very careful if I was posting anything in the iFollow VPN thread too. Any money paid to iFollow goes to the club not "external sources"? The club gets less revenue if someones using a VPN to get the cheaper international rate. They get nothing if anyone does what one user suggests in that thread and get an illegal IPTV package. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 10:39:55 GMT
They have, although I don't know what the deal is. Rovers have linked up with The Terrace Store like other clubs to improve/expand the range of merchandise available. I am sure the club will work with anyone who has something worthwhile to sell and do it with a proper agreement in place I think the individuals/brands mentioned have worked constructively with the club. The Terrace Store being another example - so these are the good examples.
I just wanted to make the point that these independents have been very creative and delivered attractive products. You'd hope this creativity would not be stifled.
Ripping off other people's graphics and copyright is not creative |
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Post by buktaboy on Aug 14, 2020 10:42:27 GMT
About time. Some of the market stall tat I've seen for sale really cheapens our image IMHO. |
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Post by yaz on Aug 14, 2020 10:43:58 GMT
I find the £6 delivery extortionate; I have a 20L cylinder full of oil for my car engine delivered from Wolverhampton to London at cost price of £42 including delivery! How can Rovers justify a standard £6 charge for tiny items costing the same?
I only buy genuine products from official sale points as this money can make a difference to the originator.
I also commented on the VPN thread on iFollow with a hint to its illegality and thatI only use official iFollow and pay £10 per game.
But I think Rovers should be making things easier for their fans in purchasing products eg. show the game in the club bar and people will come and watch and money will be recouped in bar and food takings. Social distancing can still be maintained.
A booking system for the shop could also work if it is only applied for collection only and no shop sales?
Brands should be protected; ideas should also be encouraged with all parties benefiting?
Up The Generosity
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Post by peterparker on Aug 14, 2020 10:48:43 GMT
I find the £6 delivery extortionate; I have a 20L cylinder full of oil for my car engine delivered from Wolverhampton to London at cost price of £42 including delivery! How can Rovers justify a standard £6 charge for tiny items costing the same? I only buy genuine products from official sale points as this money can make a difference to the originator. I also commented on the VPN thread on iFollow with a hint to its illegality and thatI only use official iFollow and pay £10 per game. But I think Rovers should be making things easier for their fans in purchasing products eg. show the game in the club bar and people will come and watch and money will be recouped in bar and food takings. Social distancing can still be maintained. A booking system for the shop could also work if it is only applied for collection only and no shop sales? Brands should be protected; ideas should also be encouraged with all parties benefiting? Up The Generosity UTG all depends. quite often if you spend over £x many companies will offer free shipping because of margins and/or less work. I.e it's easier to do one order with 10 items on it, than 10 items with 1 item on it. for comparison, the company I work for charges £4 delivery for a mask, If you buy 10, it's still £4 |
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