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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 10, 2020 7:20:24 GMT
Free to enter!
Simple entry one vote per person, fill your boots as to what position and why..
Glass half full or half empty?
Glass completely full or empty?
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Post by Jomo on Sept 10, 2020 7:27:31 GMT
On the assumption that for argument's sake, we are talking about a 46 game season, I voted 11th-16th midtable obscurity. I think this is most realistic regardless of whether BG can turn it around or not. If he does, I can see us getting enough wins to be comfortably safe, but also a fair few defeats along the road. If he doesn't, it will have meant that we started badly, but we would then appoint someone else that would hopefully oversee a rise in fortunes and we would finish comfortably midtable anyway. I believe we've got a squad that on paper should be enough to see us midtable in this league.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Sept 10, 2020 7:35:04 GMT
I went for mid table mediocrity too.
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Post by RD on Sept 10, 2020 7:57:23 GMT
Not a single person predicts top 10 currently. Glad to see some realism at least
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Post by Rod1883 on Sept 10, 2020 7:59:44 GMT
Surviving a relegation battle - hopefully.
Sadly I can't see BG's methods working and only the cavalry coming over the hill when Wael replaces the manager in a couple of months will save us.
I really hope I'm wrong and that BG can get us playing beautiful winning football, but on the evidence so far that isn't likely.
Saturday will be a real pointer - a battling performance and a narrow defeat, or even an unlikely point, will see me change my view - but a disjointed performance, as we have seen in the first two competitive matches this season, and a heavy defeat will only reinforce my fears.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Sept 10, 2020 8:24:13 GMT
Not a single person predicts top 10 currently. Glad to see some realism at least put that right for you! |
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Post by LJG on Sept 10, 2020 8:29:26 GMT
Relegation survivors. In the last 20 years that's probably been our most common position. We've come to view mid-table obscurity as success.
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Post by chewbacca on Sept 10, 2020 8:33:11 GMT
Depends what happens in October. If he clings on I think we'll go down.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 10, 2020 8:35:02 GMT
If Wael persists with Noddy, as I fear he will, we will end up doing well to survive relegation.
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Post by bluebiro on Sept 10, 2020 8:58:46 GMT
Says a lot.fanbase ambition to cling onto survival in this division before a ball is kicked
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Post by TugPhase on Sept 10, 2020 9:02:51 GMT
Not a single person predicts top 10 currently. Glad to see some realism at least A couple of weeks ago some were saying playoffs at a minimum and anything less would be a disastrous season! Mind you, we will probably beat Sunderland now and it will go back to that... Doom and gloom vs unrealistic expectations. Not sure which is worse. |
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Post by yetigas on Sept 10, 2020 9:09:17 GMT
Playoffs because we will come good!
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Sept 10, 2020 9:24:53 GMT
Top half for me. Looks like a few opinions changed since we played that Cardiff friendly. Since then we’ve only had a game away to promotion chasers Ipswich and a nothing game for the reserves side against Walsall, but we’ve gone from everyone on the promotion bus to doom and gloom, and we like to call the sh*theads fickle.
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Post by toddy1953 on Sept 10, 2020 9:26:41 GMT
The heart says top 6 & always have a bet on promotion, but based on results since Christmas & games so far, my head says be happy with survival.
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Post by RD on Sept 10, 2020 9:27:22 GMT
Top half for me. Looks like a few opinions changed since we played that Cardiff friendly. Since then we’ve only had a game away to promotion chasers Ipswich and a nothing game for the reserves side against Walsall, but we’ve gone from everyone on the promotion bus to doom and gloom, and we like to call the sh*theads fickle. Ah yes, the famous 45 minutes in a friendly we lost. And presumably we're choosing to forget the terrible performance against FGR? |
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Post by Gas_Quarters on Sept 10, 2020 9:34:16 GMT
Top half for me. Looks like a few opinions changed since we played that Cardiff friendly. Since then we’ve only had a game away to promotion chasers Ipswich and a nothing game for the reserves side against Walsall, but we’ve gone from everyone on the promotion bus to doom and gloom, and we like to call the sh*theads fickle. Ah yes, the famous 45 minutes in a friendly we lost. And presumably we're choosing to forget the terrible performance against FGR? I’m not saying we should’ve ever been so excited from that friendly performance that we were nailed on for promotion. I’m just pointing out how extreme everyone’s views are one way or the other. I never joined in the hype of the promotion bus where a bottom half finish was unthinkable, and i’m not gonna jump on the Garner Out bandwagon now. My opinions remained pretty much the same, I think we’ll be the higher end of mid table/lower end of top half. I just find it fascinating how much people’s minds/opinions can change from being so excited to so negative in the space of a week and 2 games. That’s basically the definition of fickle, which is the point I was making, that’s something we love to give those other lot stick for. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 10, 2020 9:39:03 GMT
Ah yes, the famous 45 minutes in a friendly we lost. And presumably we're choosing to forget the terrible performance against FGR? I’m not saying we should’ve ever been so excited from that friendly performance that we were nailed on for promotion. I’m just pointing out how extreme everyone’s views are one way or the other. I never joined in the hype of the promotion bus where a bottom half finish was unthinkable, and i’m not gonna jump on the Garner Out bandwagon now. My opinions remained pretty much the same, I think we’ll be the higher end of mid table/lower end of top half. I just find it fascinating how much people’s minds/opinions can change from being so excited to so negative in the space of a week and 2 games. That’s basically the definition of fickle, which is the point I was making, that’s something we love to give those other lot stick for. Agreed. So much inconsistency. Some people only seem to be able to see past the last game. Some of the Garner critics right now will be prophesising promotion if we beat Sunderland Saturday. I was amazed how before our last game before Sunderland 90% of the forum seemed to be in the Garner out camp and then after it swung almost 180 degrees the other way. |
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Post by Congas on Sept 10, 2020 9:39:32 GMT
Once he settles for a defensive formation, which he should do now he's seen a couple in competitive action in cup competitions we don't normally give a give a toss about, it only leaves the midfield to be sorted. Upson with his experience is an absolute must alongside Westbrooke with his passing skills. I'd like to see Ogogo given a deep lying anchor role, which will give us a strong spine of a centre forward who looks like he was born a target player with a couple of potential match winners either side of him, a bit of toughness and creativity in midfield and an excellent goalie for league 1 level. So, just get our back 3 sorted and stop playing them out of position and we can only get better. Hare with his cracking set pieces has to play every game imo. We could still win the EFL Trophy yet!
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 10, 2020 9:43:11 GMT
Says a lot.fanbase ambition to cling onto survival in this division before a ball is kicked Not my ambition. I want us to progress this season. Just don’t believe it’s possible under this manager. |
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Post by RD on Sept 10, 2020 9:49:26 GMT
Ah yes, the famous 45 minutes in a friendly we lost. And presumably we're choosing to forget the terrible performance against FGR? I’m not saying we should’ve ever been so excited from that friendly performance that we were nailed on for promotion. I’m just pointing out how extreme everyone’s views are one way or the other. I never joined in the hype of the promotion bus where a bottom half finish was unthinkable, and i’m not gonna jump on the Garner Out bandwagon now. My opinions remained pretty much the same, I think we’ll be the higher end of mid table/lower end of top half. I just find it fascinating how much people’s minds/opinions can change from being so excited to so negative in the space of a week and 2 games. That’s basically the definition of fickle, which is the point I was making, that’s something we love to give those other lot stick for. Point taken FWIW, I don't think that's what we're seeing though. I think you've got those that have lost faith in Garner haven't changed at all (never for one minute thought about promotion etc.) Then you've got those that back Garner that have maybe gone a bit overboard and are now trying to be more realistic (i.e. dreams of promotion changed to hoping for mid-table). So whilst I do think opinions have changed, it's not been a case of people who thought we'd get promoted now thinking we'll be relegated. |
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