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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 19, 2020 18:00:33 GMT
Given that we have been truly awful over the past few games and some of the "good players" we have signed dont seem to be any better than the ones we have let go, should we give him more money to get more players in?
I ask this because come January a new manager might need some as we did 2 seasons ago
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Post by Gas-Ed on Sept 19, 2020 18:02:26 GMT
If we don’t get a proven goalscorer in before the window closes we are in real trouble.
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Post by axegas on Sept 19, 2020 18:03:07 GMT
It's far too early to make a sweeping statement that the players brought in aren't any better than the ones that have left. Could just be that the manager hasn't got the best out of them so far.
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Post by lpgas1 on Sept 19, 2020 18:04:48 GMT
It's far too early to make a sweeping statement that the players brought in aren't any better than the ones that have left. Could just be that the manager hasn't got the best out of them so far. I now how to fix that  |
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Post by Marshy on Sept 19, 2020 18:06:20 GMT
It doesn’t matter who we sign, if they haven’t got a clue what system we’re playing it won’t matter!
Looking at that today, what system would anyone call that? We’ve gone from tippy tappy across the back to hoofing it to non existent players, it’s just bizarre!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 18:07:22 GMT
Given that we have been truly awful over the past few games and some of the "good players" we have signed dont seem to be any better than the ones we have let go, should we give him more money to get more players in? I ask this because come January a new manager might need some as we did 2 seasons ago Who is this “we”? Are you making a contribution? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 18:09:21 GMT
If we don’t get a proven goalscorer in before the window closes we are in real trouble. Who do you want us to sign? Also, in this formation how would your new signing make a difference? |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 19, 2020 18:10:23 GMT
If we don’t get a proven goalscorer in before the window closes we are in real trouble. I used to agree with this. And thought a credible replacement to jch would make all the difference. I'm afraid imo this is not the case. BG might not even start him, or if so play him lone (3 up front is alone as in this league we've seen so many times teams push on to us, pressing the 2 non strikers back leaving 1 up front. It's a technically sound strategy but practically easy to nullify). So it won't work. I'm left thinking it kinda doesn't matter who we sign, it won't make a difference. It isn't so much about personnel, our management team seem spellbound by certain formations and not even considering logical alternative. |
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Post by Gas-Ed on Sept 19, 2020 18:13:33 GMT
If we don’t get a proven goalscorer in before the window closes we are in real trouble. I used to agree with this. And thought a credible replacement to jch would make all the difference. I'm afraid imo this is not the case. BG might not even start him, or if so play him lone (3 up front is alone as in this league we've seen so many times teams push on to us, pressing the 2 non strikers back leaving 1 up front. It's a technically sound strategy but practically easy to nullify). So it won't work. I'm left thinking it kinda doesn't matter who we sign, it won't make a difference. It isn't so much about personnel, our management team seem spellbound by certain formations and not even considering logical alternative. I agree, another striker won’t make any difference right now if we don’t change the system. But on the other hand, if we change the system we don’t have a goalscorer. |
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Post by Marshy on Sept 19, 2020 18:16:53 GMT
If we don’t get a proven goalscorer in before the window closes we are in real trouble. I used to agree with this. And thought a credible replacement to jch would make all the difference. I'm afraid imo this is not the case. BG might not even start him, or if so play him lone (3 up front is alone as in this league we've seen so many times teams push on to us, pressing the 2 non strikers back leaving 1 up front. It's a technically sound strategy but practically easy to nullify). So it won't work. I'm left thinking it kinda doesn't matter who we sign, it won't make a difference. It isn't so much about personnel, our management team seem spellbound by certain formations and not even considering logical alternative. Yep, we don’t need more players we just need the ones we have to understand what they are supposed to be doing! Give Daly a chance I reckon he could be a little gem, oh and it would be nice if we played 2 up front especially at home. Wait a minute what system would that be though. 😁 |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 19, 2020 18:23:39 GMT
I used to agree with this. And thought a credible replacement to jch would make all the difference. I'm afraid imo this is not the case. BG might not even start him, or if so play him lone (3 up front is alone as in this league we've seen so many times teams push on to us, pressing the 2 non strikers back leaving 1 up front. It's a technically sound strategy but practically easy to nullify). So it won't work. I'm left thinking it kinda doesn't matter who we sign, it won't make a difference. It isn't so much about personnel, our management team seem spellbound by certain formations and not even considering logical alternative. I agree, another striker won’t make any difference right now if we don’t change the system. But on the other hand, if we change the system we don’t have a goalscorer. Not a recognised goalscorer, no. If we don't replace jch with a credible goalscorer, we won't have learned the lesson on Lambo and relegation would beckon again. I think it's unfair to expect a kid (bless him) and a fledgling striker (Arthur Daley excluded) to take on the burden of scoring 20 goals between them whilst playing up front on their own. BG says tonight others should take their chances and opportunities, yet fails to notice some of those chances fall to non-strikers and highlight that they weren't taken!? It's literally a mad theory...if chances had fallen to recognised strikers, you would expect a better chance of scoring (TN apart)? But of course, BG only plays 0 or 1 striker at one time...... immediately putting us on back foot. But hey, he needs more time.. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 19, 2020 18:45:31 GMT
What "chances" does he mean? The only clear cut goal scoring opportunities we've had was Nicholsons at Ipswich and Hanlon early on today, meanwhile teams we've been playing have scored around 1 in 10 of their chances, and they are probably better quality players.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 19:05:48 GMT
Given that we have been truly awful over the past few games and some of the "good players" we have signed dont seem to be any better than the ones we have let go, should we give him more money to get more players in? I ask this because come January a new manager might need some as we did 2 seasons ago Yeah, he failed with GC’s players, he’s quite clearly failing with his first set of players, so let’s buy him another set....then rinse and repeat until we either hit the bottom of the football pyramid or Garner comes good? I know which one my money is on happening first. |
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Post by pirate on Sept 19, 2020 21:57:24 GMT
We desperately need a striker that actually has an eye for goal and a midfielder in the Sercombe mould. We look so toothless and a poor side. I can't see where the goals are coming from. So disheartened.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Sept 19, 2020 21:59:26 GMT
Given that we have been truly awful over the past few games and some of the "good players" we have signed dont seem to be any better than the ones we have let go, should we give him more money to get more players in? I ask this because come January a new manager might need some as we did 2 seasons ago Yeah, he failed with GC’s players, he’s quite clearly failing with his first set of players, so let’s buy him another set....then rinse and repeat until we either hit the bottom of the football pyramid or Garner comes good? I know which one my money is on happening first. Garner coming good? |
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Post by GasAttacK on Sept 19, 2020 22:09:12 GMT
We desperately need a striker that actually has an eye for goal and a midfielder in the Sercombe mould. We look so toothless and a poor side. I can't see where the goals are coming from. So disheartened. Agree with this.
We are crying out for a midfielder that can run with the ball. However, he also needs to be someone with a bit of pace who isn't afraid of a tackle. Players like that are hard to come by. Sheehan seems to tick those boxes but can we get him?
A natural goalscorer is also needed because there is very little in their records to suggest any of our forwards are likely to get more than 10 goals.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Sept 19, 2020 22:26:56 GMT
We desperately need a striker that actually has an eye for goal and a midfielder in the Sercombe mould. We look so toothless and a poor side. I can't see where the goals are coming from. So disheartened. Agree with this.
We are crying out for a midfielder that can run with the ball. However, he also needs to be someone with a bit of pace who isn't afraid of a tackle. Players like that are hard to come by. Sheehan seems to tick those boxes but can we get him?
A natural goalscorer is also needed because there is very little in their records to suggest any of our forwards are likely to get more than 10 goals.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 19, 2020 22:36:50 GMT
We desperately need a striker that actually has an eye for goal and a midfielder in the Sercombe mould. We look so toothless and a poor side. I can't see where the goals are coming from. So disheartened. I can't believe we've gone from OC/Sercs/Ogogo to Upson and Grant today, how can we managed to go backwards from those 3! Strikers wise I can't see Hanlon's a target men, he looks like a striker who needs to play off a big No 9. It's worrying times as BG looks like he's put together a relegation squad, very similar to the one DC built before he was dismissed. |
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Post by axegas on Sept 19, 2020 22:39:32 GMT
We desperately need a striker that actually has an eye for goal and a midfielder in the Sercombe mould. We look so toothless and a poor side. I can't see where the goals are coming from. So disheartened. I can't believe we've gone from OC/Sercs/Ogogo to Upson and Grant today, how can we managed to go backwards from those 3! Strikers wise I can't see Hanlon's a target men, he looks like a striker who needs to play off a big No 9. It's worrying times as BG looks like he's put together a relegation squad, very similar to the one DC built before he was dismissed. We got a reasonable draw away at Sunderland and up until 80 minutes, looked like we were getting another point against another one of the biggest clubs in the division in Ipswich. I know people feel pretty downbeat right now but this an overreaction and a half. |
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Post by pirate on Sept 19, 2020 23:08:44 GMT
I can't believe we've gone from OC/Sercs/Ogogo to Upson and Grant today, how can we managed to go backwards from those 3! Strikers wise I can't see Hanlon's a target men, he looks like a striker who needs to play off a big No 9. It's worrying times as BG looks like he's put together a relegation squad, very similar to the one DC built before he was dismissed. We got a reasonable draw away at Sunderland and up until 80 minutes, looked like we were getting another point against another one of the biggest clubs in the division in Ipswich. I know people feel pretty downbeat right now but this an overreaction and a half. On another day Sunderland would have scored 3 or 4. We were indebted to a fine Jaakola display. 25 shots compared to our 5 and a ridiculous 72% possession for them. You can only scrape results with stats like those once in a while. |
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