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Post by Marshy on Oct 21, 2020 12:29:42 GMT
I would really like to see these 2 guys in the starting line up as I believe they will make us much more of an attacking threat? I can understand Ben not wanting to change a winning side, but surely fatigue will start to set in soon and changes will have to be made. I would drop mcCormick for Oztumer but who do you drop for Nicholson, I suppose it would have to be Daly? But that would be also be very unfair as the lad is playing really well and of course has scored a couple of goals already. Will Ben get one of them or both of them in for Saturday? I doubt it and that’s probably the right call, but I think we will see some changes against Hull as the games are coming thick and fast. A nice problem to have i suppose, but what do people think?
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Oct 21, 2020 12:34:53 GMT
Yeah I was thinking exactly that. Daly and McCormick will provide a lot of energy and endless pressing so quite expect BG to start with them, but I totally agree with you that either or both deserve a start soon. We would play differently I would suspect with those 2 on the pitch - opting to play through midfield as apposed to 'direct' balls
I think we need Ayunga back asap (whats the latest i wonder?) to give Brandon a bit of a break as Daly wouldn't be able to cover Hanlans role in the team as they are different players that compliment each others styles.
I don't think I would mind if BG started with Nicolson over McCormick on saturday but to drop Daly at the moment I think would be unwise (unless he is knackered)
I do reaaaaaaaaaaaallly want to see Ozzy get more mins though - start building his next youtube compo in a Gas shirt - really should have been the assist last night - shame that
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 21, 2020 12:38:18 GMT
Kinda nice problem to have by o p asking questions..
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Post by Marshy on Oct 21, 2020 12:40:45 GMT
Oztumer, Westbrooke and Nicholson playing in the same side, something we could have only dreamed about not long ago. 😁
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Post by markczgas on Oct 21, 2020 12:50:41 GMT
I agree Marshy - it might be time to rotate players as there's another game on Tues. Players will start to get jaded. So yeah I think he should put those 2 in before they start to struggle physically - both McCormick and Daly are new to men's football. I'd also say there is the case for bringing in Kilgour and Upson soon to start a game as they can be equally effective as those in the 11. Would be great to see Ayunga backing the 18 as Hanlan will need some kind of a breather,even if it's playing 70 and not 95 mins.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Oct 21, 2020 13:00:03 GMT
Being Pirates the ship analogy is always tempting to employ. If you sign on a crew with three helmsmen and no one in the engine room then you’ll run out of steam pretty quickly!
At the moment I guess we’re utilising the period between games to see what other necessary jobs a couple of them can do so that we could accommodate our most talented assets in the same team, might take a while to work that out as we’ve only had Oz since Thursday and Nicho has been recovering from injury. I bet training is fun at the moment with them three pinging balls about and raining shots on goal. I hope JVS and Andre jr. are not getting a complex with these guys whistling balls past them into the net!!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 21, 2020 13:01:32 GMT
We are going up.
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Post by Marshy on Oct 21, 2020 13:03:53 GMT
Make your mind up, we were going down 3 weeks ago.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 21, 2020 13:09:37 GMT
I can't see how anybody can make a case for Upson starting any time soon? Who are you intending dropping Grant, who seems to be getting better each game, or Westbrook who had his best game in the quarters last night?
I'd stick with the same starting 11 v Accrington as I sense that's going to be just another battle, then look to out play Hull next Tuesday with Nicholson and Oztumer from the start at the Mem.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 21, 2020 13:10:19 GMT
Make your mind up, we were going down 3 weeks ago. Now we're going up.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Oct 21, 2020 13:11:57 GMT
I would certainly start Otzumer instead of MAC but the Daly/Nicholson choice is difficult, Strikers need to be playing week in week out to build up partnerships and confidence , Nicholson is too good to warm the bench all the time but he may have to , perhaps we need to get him on earlier say 50 odd mins, depending on game situation, think Sat will be unchanged and no one can really argue with that, nice situation to be in.
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Post by slam on Oct 21, 2020 13:13:51 GMT
The way I see it is that, over the course of the next few weeks, we are going to be playing so much football that a bit of squad rotation is bound to be required. I think that this will allows BG to play around with our starting XI and to identify our best "formations" and our best XI to fit into those formations.
Ozzy and Nicholson will get their chances to demonstrate that they should be playing week in week out - but even they will need to be rested a times. Our squad is looking good for the long and demanding haul that lies over the next 39 league matches plus the fabled FA Cup run!!!!
On top of that I am one of those that think we are starting to play more decent football. Watching the last few games, I have been entertained on top of enjoying the results - that is a good sign.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Oct 21, 2020 13:22:37 GMT
The way I see it is that, over the course of the next few weeks, we are going to be playing so much football that a bit of squad rotation is bound to be required. I think that this will allows BG to play around with our starting XI and to identify our best "formations" and our best XI to fit into those formations. Ozzy and Nicholson will get their chances to demonstrate that they should be playing week in week out - but even they will need to be rested a times. Our squad is looking good for the long and demanding haul that lies over the next 39 league matches plus the fabled FA Cup run!!!! On top of that I am one of those that think we are starting to play more decent football. Watching the last few games, I have been entertained on top of enjoying the results - that is a good sign. Nice post. I think I understand the most likely rotations (if fit) are Ayunga for Hanlan and Nicholson for Daly I wonder who will rotate (if they will) for Westbrook and Grant. Upson and Liddle? Ozzy and Hargreaves? Rotation for McCormick is less complicated - Any from Barrett / Ozzy / Hargreaves / Nicholson / Walker - that is a popular space and fair play to McCormick for keeping it so long in fairness Thoughts?
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Post by slam on Oct 21, 2020 13:45:54 GMT
McC has done ok - but I can't fully understand how he made it straight into the starting XI. He hasn't done badly, I will give him that, but right now I am struggling to convince myself that there wasn;t some sort of clause in his loan agreement to stipulate a certain amount of game time.
Other than that, you have just confirmed the depth of our squad and the options open to us. I really hope that some of our own up and coming youngsters get some match time too.
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Oct 21, 2020 13:54:48 GMT
When you really look at it, we've got a cracking team, maybe short of a striker, but one of the best teams i have seen in my time as a gashead. Ironic how theres no sign of anybody being able to go and watch them, the first game they let everyone back you'll be lucky to get a ticket. Also ironic that this years league is one of the hardest I've seen, its going to make us look mediocre if we're not careful
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Post by oliverhelmet on Oct 21, 2020 14:04:00 GMT
Think Oztumer must start if fully fit,unlucky for McCormick but he will get other opportunities.More difficult to fit Nicholson,a goal or 2 as a sub will give the manager a difficult choice between Daly and Nicholson as a starter,they will both get plenty of games though.
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Post by gascoach on Oct 22, 2020 5:21:02 GMT
The way I see it is that, over the course of the next few weeks, we are going to be playing so much football that a bit of squad rotation is bound to be required. I think that this will allows BG to play around with our starting XI and to identify our best "formations" and our best XI to fit into those formations. Ozzy and Nicholson will get their chances to demonstrate that they should be playing week in week out - but even they will need to be rested a times. Our squad is looking good for the long and demanding haul that lies over the next 39 league matches plus the fabled FA Cup run!!!! On top of that I am one of those that think we are starting to play more decent football. Watching the last few games, I have been entertained on top of enjoying the results - that is a good sign. Nice post. I think I understand the most likely rotations (if fit) are Ayunga for Hanlan and Nicholson for Daly I wonder who will rotate (if they will) for Westbrook and Grant. Upson and Liddle? Ozzy and Hargreaves? Rotation for McCormick is less complicated - Any from Barrett / Ozzy / Hargreaves / Nicholson / Walker - that is a popular space and fair play to McCormick for keeping it so long in fairness Thoughts? Frightening how good we look on paper. All these options and you’ve managed to forget JML too, madness how much depth we have. Worry it could be to our detriment if they don’t all stay happy as you just can’t physically give them all the playing time they’ll want.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 8:07:25 GMT
I agree with Marshy certainly about Oztumer .... sense he will be starting very soon ahead of young McCormick who to be fair has done rather well i think.
Nicholson is a tougher call as Daly is growing in confidence all the time and the goals are coming.
From memory I think i read we have an option on JML at the end of his loan spell - not sure about McC but i did hear yesterday that should Oztumer do well we will have first option on a permanent which seems good news.
At the back I would leave the full unit intact - Central Three all starting to blend ... Josh and David showing promise as well.
I still think we needed that extra Striker and sense one will arrive in January if not a little before ...
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Post by ThisCharmingMan on Oct 22, 2020 8:15:10 GMT
For me it's about what sort of side we're playing against. Otzumer & Nicholson would be perfect for a side sitting back, when we need that bright spark to unlock a defence.
Daly & McCormick's pressing is superb and perfect for when we think we'll have less of the ball against the better sides.
Lovely discussion to be able to have!
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 22, 2020 9:49:47 GMT
McC has done ok - but I can't fully understand how he made it straight into the starting XI. He hasn't done badly, I will give him that, but right now I am struggling to convince myself that there wasn;t some sort of clause in his loan agreement to stipulate a certain amount of game time. Other than that, you have just confirmed the depth of our squad and the options open to us. I really hope that some of our own up and coming youngsters get some match time too. LMc against Northampton was superb and linked with Westbrooke very well in games since. I see Ozzy playing and starting more in Daly’s role if started and will only be as an option for Westbrooke or LMc if one needs to come off. BG does like the one up front option with one in behind.
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