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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2020 21:40:39 GMT
Have to say that the home games are becoming so frustrating to watch. It is just such a slow build up with no penetration whatsoever. Why oh why does Westbrooke continually put diabolical free kicks and corners in. The biggest mistaqke is not replacing JCH. The standard of passing in the final third is little short of pathetic and it is all tip tap sideways and back. Grant is one of the most the most negative players I have seen in a long time. I really struggle to see where goals are going to come from playing this style of football (if you can call it that!) too many Red Bulls during the game. Can't believe your Grant comments - shocking !! We must be the only team that has a defensive midfielder who doesn’t pick up two or three goals/assists every match. Bring back Ogogo, we’re really missing his goals and creativity!
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Post by bridgwatergas on Nov 3, 2020 21:55:51 GMT
Grant was my mom today, thought his best performance by a distance. Both of Posh's goals, and the shot which hit the post, came from midfield with Grant nowhere in sight? Everything in midfield goes via Westbrooke but he's not up to playing such a pivotal role, hence Harries kicks it long so often. So you are blaming Grant for the 2nd goal when Nicholson just stood there and watched him take the shot. He was the closest player to the ball what do you want Grant do mark everyone on both sides the pitch?
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Post by bridgwatergas on Nov 3, 2020 21:58:29 GMT
too many Red Bulls during the game. Can't believe your Grant comments - shocking !! We must be the only team that has a defensive midfielder who doesn’t pick up two or three goals/assists every match. Bring back Ogogo, we’re really missing his goals and creativity! So many think Ogogo is the answer but if he plays in this system we would get hammered more as he would be caught out of position regularly. But that's ok because he puts in a good tackle a game and the fans love it.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Nov 3, 2020 22:04:46 GMT
This slow style of football I bet if the fans were there this would not happen they would b on there backs with no crowds it favours the away side especially at the mem Been saying this to people at home and started a thread saying just this. Also B.G can’t gauge the atmosphere
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Post by toddy1953 on Nov 3, 2020 22:14:13 GMT
Grant seems like Marmite on here, personally I have seen nothing to suggest he is an improvement, on Clarke, Ogogo or Upson from last season. I think he’s worse than any of those so far , however he’s young and likely to improve a fair bit where as the other three aren’t and won’t. I hope you are right 🤞
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Post by Gaswood on Nov 4, 2020 0:20:44 GMT
Grant seems like Marmite on here, personally I have seen nothing to suggest he is an improvement, on Clarke, Ogogo or Upson from last season. I guess if his wages are considerably less than any of those three (likely - due to age) and potential is more (likely - due to age) then that’s a decent switch for the squad (longwe term)? Genuine comment btw!!
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Post by Langford Gas on Nov 4, 2020 5:22:26 GMT
If we are going to criticise individuals i would have to say the most frustrating player last night was Hare , defensively he is no better than Leahy
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Nov 4, 2020 6:17:54 GMT
How can we have an entirely different team, yet still be THAT Bristol Rovers. Yes, Peterborough are a good team, but did we even turn up?
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Post by kampucheagas on Nov 4, 2020 7:09:51 GMT
How can we have an entirely different team, yet still be THAT Bristol Rovers. Yes, Peterborough are a good team, but did we even turn up? I think that’s the most frustrating thing about losing to these ‘powerhouses’ of league one, we almost look like we’ve surrendered before kick off GC style was awful but you knew he’d have them up for the fight League one isn’t complicated. You need bravery, a little skill and a goalscorer We’ve got one of those at the moment
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Post by socrates on Nov 4, 2020 7:33:11 GMT
How can we have an entirely different team, yet still be THAT Bristol Rovers. Yes, Peterborough are a good team, but did we even turn up? I think that’s the most frustrating thing about losing to these ‘powerhouses’ of league one, we almost look like we’ve surrendered before kick off GC style was awful but you knew he’d have them up for the fight League one isn’t complicated. You need bravery, a little skill and a goalscorer We’ve got one of those at the moment Garner definitely making things more complicated than they need to be for this level. Long term it might work obviously after 10 games it’s still too early to say but I think most have their doubts which having watched tons of league 1 football over the years they have their right to feel that way and it is in most cases an educated opinion.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 4, 2020 8:00:06 GMT
Grant seems like Marmite on here, personally I have seen nothing to suggest he is an improvement, on Clarke, Ogogo or Upson from last season. I guess if his wages are considerably less than any of those three (likely - due to age) and potential is more (likely - due to age) then that’s a decent switch for the squad (longwe term)? Genuine comment btw!! Problem is BG's replaced 3 senior players with 6 junior ones so the wage budget is probably just the same, ignoring the fact CV will have reduced players wages anyway. BG is clearly working on the basis he'll turn these players into players he can sell, but what actual evidence is there he can actually achieve that, I fear he's more likely to get us relegated.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 4, 2020 8:10:02 GMT
If we are going to criticise individuals i would have to say the most frustrating player last night was Hare , defensively he is no better than Leahy He put a lot of crosses in, most of which were pretty poor. I thought he was better than that. Tutonda had a poor game. I thought because he picked up a knock on the weekend he would be rested with Leahy coming in. What's the point in having such a big squad and then pick pretty much the same team each week despite the fact we are playing twice a week. Wouldn't mind if we were winning!
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Post by Langford Gas on Nov 4, 2020 8:52:10 GMT
If we are going to criticise individuals i would have to say the most frustrating player last night was Hare , defensively he is no better than Leahy He put a lot of crosses in, most of which were pretty poor. I thought he was better than that. Tutonda had a poor game. I thought because he picked up a knock on the weekend he would be rested with Leahy coming in. What's the point in having such a big squad and then pick pretty much the same team each week despite the fact we are playing twice a week. Wouldn't mind if we were winning! I think defensively he has been off the pace for the last two games and as you say his crosses last night were poor certainly by his standards. It has crossed my mind that his usual exceptional ability to cross a ball detracts attention from his defensive weaknesses.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 4, 2020 10:08:05 GMT
If we are going to criticise individuals i would have to say the most frustrating player last night was Hare , defensively he is no better than Leahy He put a lot of crosses in, most of which were pretty poor. I thought he was better than that. Tutonda had a poor game. I thought because he picked up a knock on the weekend he would be rested with Leahy coming in. What's the point in having such a big squad and then pick pretty much the same team each week despite the fact we are playing twice a week. Wouldn't mind if we were winning! I can't understand how BG played Leahy on Saturday, we looked better when he came on then he dropped him from the squad! Likewise why bring Kilgour back in game he was always likely to struggle when he could have just waited til Saturday.
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Post by stevek192 on Nov 4, 2020 10:28:42 GMT
Ive been thinking about this more since I wrote the post and perhaps I have been a little unfair on Grant in that there is a good player in there but it is at full back as to me he is a defender playing midfield rather than a defensive midfielder and I believe there is a difference and it is a big one because we are actually employing 7 defenders in the team including the goalkeeper so it is hardly surprising that the ball stays in our half a lot of the time! Our three centre halves are spending most of their time not marking anybody at all so that is three players less to compete for the ball. I honestly feel we have a better quality of squad than we have had for years but are a strong striker short to start with. Personally I would go back to a basic formation Jaakkola
Grant Ehmer Harries Koiki
Hanlon Westbrooke Oztumer Nicholson
Daley Out of contract striker/Mitchell Lawson
Subs Baldwin GK Tutonda Upson McCoremick Hare Hargreaves
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Post by alanrg on Nov 4, 2020 10:42:18 GMT
I agree with u Steve k this squad is better than last seasons noticed we have scored 9 goals in league one is that the lowest and also I will b glad when Ayunga is back he gives us a different option
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 4, 2020 11:39:52 GMT
Ive been thinking about this more since I wrote the post and perhaps I have been a little unfair on Grant in that there is a good player in there but it is at full back as to me he is a defender playing midfield rather than a defensive midfielder and I believe there is a difference and it is a big one because we are actually employing 7 defenders in the team including the goalkeeper so it is hardly surprising that the ball stays in our half a lot of the time! Our three centre halves are spending most of their time not marking anybody at all so that is three players less to compete for the ball. I honestly feel we have a better quality of squad than we have had for years but are a strong striker short to start with. Personally I would go back to a basic formation Jaakkola Grant Ehmer Harries Koiki Hanlon Westbrooke Oztumer Nicholson Daley Out of contract striker/Mitchell Lawson Subs Baldwin GK Tutonda Upson McCoremick Hare Hargreaves Why on earth would you drop Hare for Grant, when Hare seems the only Rovers play capable of crossing the ball? Likewise how have you seen enough of Koiki to choose him at LB? As far as CM who's going to win the ball?
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Nov 4, 2020 11:43:22 GMT
Ive been thinking about this more since I wrote the post and perhaps I have been a little unfair on Grant in that there is a good player in there but it is at full back as to me he is a defender playing midfield rather than a defensive midfielder and I believe there is a difference and it is a big one because we are actually employing 7 defenders in the team including the goalkeeper so it is hardly surprising that the ball stays in our half a lot of the time! Our three centre halves are spending most of their time not marking anybody at all so that is three players less to compete for the ball. I honestly feel we have a better quality of squad than we have had for years but are a strong striker short to start with. Personally I would go back to a basic formation Jaakkola Grant Ehmer Harries Koiki Hanlon Westbrooke Oztumer Nicholson Daley Out of contract striker/Mitchell Lawson Subs Baldwin GK Tutonda Upson McCoremick Hare Hargreaves That may be a basic formation but I’m sorry, it’s a horrific XI Steveo.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Nov 4, 2020 11:43:48 GMT
Awful watch, turned off once the 2nd goal went flew in with no one shutting the fella down. The back three are so slow and clueless, with their relentless backwards and sideways passing, and up front with poor service, when the ball is played forward, both players look so clumsy and unable to get a meaningful shot on target.
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Post by TAGas on Nov 4, 2020 12:02:51 GMT
too many Red Bulls during the game. Can't believe your Grant comments - shocking !! Grant was and has been shocking. Clan harries ain’t much better either. I agree with this.
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