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Post by Goose on Nov 14, 2020 20:49:41 GMT
Personally I'd want them to go for it. Is change formation and tweak team...
Jaakkola
Hare. Ehmer. Harries. Tutonda
Westbrook. Upson
Nicholson. Oztumer. JML
Hanlan
I'd bring upson in to add experience in the middle and I think the three being Hanlan could create something..... Any thoughts?
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Post by bluebiro on Nov 14, 2020 21:01:28 GMT
Pity ogogo was still not here
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Post by hardingegas on Nov 14, 2020 21:03:19 GMT
That's the team I'd like.
Forget the five at the back - just doesn't work at this level.
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Post by Russgas on Nov 14, 2020 21:05:59 GMT
That's the team I'd like. Forget the five at the back - just doesn't work at this level. It does work if it's played correctly.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2020 21:11:52 GMT
Pity ogogo was still not here No chance of recalling him before January?
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Post by hardingegas on Nov 14, 2020 21:13:32 GMT
It works at a higher level where the defenders are comfortable on the ball and can bring it out and find a man without resorting to hoofing it as ours seem to do when under the slightest pressure.
Also, you've got at least one defender just marking space when an extra body is needed either in midfield or up front.
The only team I've seen recently playing three at the back successfully are Wolves - and what a gulf in class that is!
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Post by playtowin on Nov 14, 2020 21:17:47 GMT
Be quite nice having Hare and Nicholson down one side and Tutonda and JML down the other in a 442 . Not fashionable anymore though.
Be nice to see
Hare - Ehmer- Harries - Tutonda
Nicholson-westbrooke-Grant-JML
-Ayunga -Hanlan
Not likely to happen though.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 14, 2020 21:19:24 GMT
Personally I'd want them to go for it. Is change formation and tweak team... Jaakkola Hare. Ehmer. Harries. Tutonda Westbrook. Upson Nicholson. Oztumer. JML Hanlan I'd bring upson in to add experience in the middle and I think the three being Hanlan could create something..... Any thoughts? Next league or Cup game?
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Post by Goose on Nov 14, 2020 21:36:48 GMT
Personally I'd want them to go for it. Is change formation and tweak team... Jaakkola Hare. Ehmer. Harries. Tutonda Westbrook. Upson Nicholson. Oztumer. JML Hanlan I'd bring upson in to add experience in the middle and I think the three being Hanlan could create something..... Any thoughts? Next league or Cup game? League game.. jaakkola isn't available for Chelsea
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Post by petegas on Nov 14, 2020 22:51:04 GMT
Personally I'd want them to go for it. Is change formation and tweak team... Jaakkola Hare. Ehmer. Harries. Tutonda Westbrook. Upson Nicholson. Oztumer. JML Hanlan I'd bring upson in to add experience in the middle and I think the three being Hanlan could create something..... Any thoughts? Like this line up, it’s what I’d go for.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Nov 14, 2020 23:04:45 GMT
Personally I'd switch to a 4 but I want my centre backs to be defenders first and ball players second, Id go 4-1-4-1 Jaakkola Hare Kilgour Ehmer Tutonda Grant JML Westbrooke Oztuhmer Nicholson Hanlan
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2020 23:29:53 GMT
I think our squad is more suited to 5 at the back. Different formations work for different squads and different managers, I don’t think you can just write off certain formations because we are in the third tier - otherwise everyone would just play 4-4-2 forever.
Going forward I’d be happy with,
Jaakkola
Hare, Ehmer, Baldwin, Harries, Tutonda
Grant, Oztumer & Westrooke
Hanlon & Nicholson
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 14, 2020 23:40:39 GMT
I'd go for four at the back, two up front and swap midfield between a diamond and conventional 442.
Diamond would have Grant sitting in front of the back four and Otzumer behind the front two with the central midfield of Westbrooke and Upson.
Conventional 442 would have JML and Nicholson on the wings.
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Post by petegas on Nov 14, 2020 23:44:17 GMT
Think under a new manager that Kilgour and Upson will have a bigger part to play again now. Both are quality players and better than what we’ve been starting with under Garner this season. Garner seemed to want to use his own players but I think these two will prove that they’re starters under new management. I know that Kilgour hasn’t played well this season but I reckon now that Garner’s gone we will see the great prospect we had before.
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Post by lpgas1 on Nov 15, 2020 0:30:40 GMT
Personally I'd switch to a 4 but I want my centre backs to be defenders first and ball players second, Id go 4-1-4-1 Jaakkola Hare Kilgour Ehmer Tutonda Grant JML Westbrooke Oztuhmer Nicholson Hanlan I think tututonda is good going forward, but not so good at defending, so Id pick Koiki or Leahy at the back and I would play Nicholson up front alongside Hanlon. He could pull central defender all over the place.
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Post by hardingegas on Nov 15, 2020 0:35:52 GMT
Thought Koiki was having a mare today and would have hooked him at halftime.
Trouble is I don't think any of the left sided players can defend well!
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Post by markczgas on Nov 15, 2020 0:39:27 GMT
The best players for me this season have been Jaakkola, Ehmer, Tutonda, Westbrooke, Grant, Nicholson, Daly and Hanalan. So I'd build the team around them. Personally, I'd also have Kilgour in. Formation - 4-4 -2. probably Hare at RB - hopefully somebody can help him with his defending (would rather have Little but he's still injured). Ehmer has been played all along the backline - he's not had a chance to settle in a position - BG's fault there. Ehmer and Kilgour in the middle of the four would make us more solid I reckon.
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Post by markczgas on Nov 15, 2020 0:45:57 GMT
Personally I'd switch to a 4 but I want my centre backs to be defenders first and ball players second, Id go 4-1-4-1 Jaakkola Hare Kilgour Ehmer Tutonda Grant JML Westbrooke Oztuhmer Nicholson Hanlan Agree with you almost completely, but Daly up there with Hanlan in place of Otzumer - has not really impressed me. I can't remember him doing one really good thing in 2 games and a few sub appearances. Daly scores when he's had any chances and works so hard for the team.
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Post by bluebiro on Nov 15, 2020 8:40:35 GMT
Jakkola Hare kilgour ehmer leahy Nicholson upson grant tutonda Daly hanlan
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 15, 2020 8:59:12 GMT
I don't think we would necessarily concede more goals from moving from five to four at the back, but by doing so would surely improve our chances in front of our opponents goal.
I would be looking more towards a 4-3-3 formation. We haven't seen much of players like JML this season and I think that's more down to the formation. We would see a lot more of him in a 4-3-3. I also think this will bring out the best in Nicholson who is one of our best players. I think this formation gets us to play most of our creative/attacking players.
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