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Post by 68 on Dec 15, 2020 14:52:24 GMT
We now, at long last, have an identity and structure to which we can recruit. We bring in a Manager and Players who fit that identity and structure instead of bringing in a Manager and then Players to suit his way of doing things. I'm thinking that the Owner bears a great deal of responsibility for that in setting out the vision.
The Manager and Players have very little to do with the initial vision. There are of course lots of peripheral requirements regarding how everything is brought together both on and off the pitch.
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Post by lpgas1 on Dec 15, 2020 15:09:35 GMT
I believe Garner was excellent at using Powerpoint. Other than that no.
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Post by bluebiro on Dec 15, 2020 15:43:02 GMT
Credit to the guy for making us forget all about the previous managers employed by this club that were useless
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Post by horfield on Dec 15, 2020 16:08:39 GMT
It will be interesting to see how long it takes him to get another job in football anywhere, that will be the acid test ! Meanwhile he's got a new house in Emersons Green and £250,000 worth of a 2 year remaining contract to keep the wolf from the door.
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Post by CrispPusher on Dec 15, 2020 18:39:53 GMT
It will be interesting to see how long it takes him to get another job in football anywhere, that will be the acid test ! Meanwhile he's got a new house in Emersons Green and £250,000 worth of a 2 year remaining contract to keep the wolf from the door. He's living in a rented property in Stoke Bishop. I'll credit him with taking over a team in 4th place, dismantling it then leaving a team 4 places off the bottom.
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Post by landrover on Dec 15, 2020 20:51:00 GMT
He proved that football isn’t played on paper or a computer. And that degrees in neuro linguistics and talk of tactical periodisation methodology is the ultimate bulls**t spoken by an immature character.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Dec 15, 2020 23:40:03 GMT
If I asked a builder to do a wall and he turned up with all the bricks and made a sh** filled cake in relegation form I'd be pretty miffed to be honest.
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Post by daniel300380 on Dec 16, 2020 0:39:47 GMT
Ollie Clarke choose to leave didn't he?? As did Harrison and Lockyer etc. You can only play the player's if you have them. Who would you have played?? Player's like Lockyer and then OC were going to start, so it's hardly a fair comparison. Not at all. Kilgour, Hargreaves, Kelly, Walker, Mehew, Tomlinson and many more were available to him. He decided to develop players from elsewhere. Kilgour played but was out of form. So he was rightly removed from the side. It wasn't the end of his career though. Young player's go in and out of the side. Lockyer, lines, Clarke etc were established, so one was always going to play. It's got really the same.
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Post by yaz on Dec 16, 2020 13:32:47 GMT
If he went for a loan, would any company give home the finance?
PS Are there any websites which rank managers and coaches, past and present? If so, where would he rank? Personally, with respect to him, and solely based on the results and the players that came in, the style of play, the formations we started with, player positions, tactical changes as a match progressed wrt subs and play, etc. I think he has to be one of the worst managers I have ever seen at our club or anywhere else. These days one is judged on performance and I don’t think anyone else comes close (although our 2 previous managers as in GC and IH have found it tough at Mansfield and Grimsby in L2)? Even DC was getting some stick at Walsall but results have picked up recently?
PS When one thinks about it, we have had some terrible managers in the last 2 decades although DC and GC did the job for us.
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Post by Blackbeard on Dec 16, 2020 23:19:41 GMT
Nope
We deserve all the credit
Cos no matter who plays, who is in charge or who owns it or where the ground is
There’s only two constants
The fans
And the shirt
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Post by wilmslowgas on Dec 17, 2020 17:48:38 GMT
There is another constant: perpetual disappointment coupled with unrealistic optimism.
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Post by warehamgas on Dec 17, 2020 23:50:38 GMT
I think he deserves some credit. Just like Ian Atkins got some credit for signing Steve Eliott, Craig Hinton, Aaron Lescott, Craig Disley and Richard Walker etc. Even though the Football was dreadful and results weren't what we wanted, he brought those players in, who went on to get promoted under Paul Trollope. If Tisdale can do the same with the players BG signed then he deserves some credit too. BG's inexperience clearly showed, but I think its fair to say he has brought in a better standard of player, he just didn't have the nouse to utilise them properly. I think that’s about where I am, esp the last few sentences, he brought what I think are some decent players to the club, perhaps a bit unbalanced in terms of strikers and midfielders, but he wasn’t able to gel them into a team. In the clubs statements over the past few years we’ve had a few, istr, where the statement was very short, to the point and didn’t always give the club’s thanks to the employee that had just left. That they did with BG shows that the club recognised the good things he did but also recognised the need for a change. That’s good enough for me. UTG!
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