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Post by rememberhalifax on Dec 20, 2020 10:11:27 GMT
Watching EFL on Quest last night the ever worsening cancellation numbers were mentioned with the fear being the numbers are heading towards a figure which it will make difficult to reschedule. There is no doubt that the figures in Football/sport are reflecting the national trend or visa versa and is it fast approaching the time when we have to call a halt again? The numbers involved in a game are significant , must be 50 plus in football and double that in Rugby, games in which all 'covid' rules go out of the window come match time. Travel restrictions are by passed ,even cross border and the question has to be asked ,reluctantly, that despite what the great Bill Shankly said about the importance of football' are sports fans being selfish in there desire for sport to continue at the expense of the greater good and our hopes for getting through this bloody nightmare?'
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 20, 2020 10:21:31 GMT
Don't see how it's anything to do with the fans. We've had practically no voice at all on pretty much everything.
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Post by Rod1883 on Dec 20, 2020 10:25:21 GMT
With travel restrictions in place etc it does seem odd having Sport teams and entourages travelling around. I wouldn't be surprised to see a one month break being imposed. How that would then affect the completion of the season, cup competitions I don't know.
Thank goodness we're pretty healthy on a PPG basis currently from a league 1 survival point of view
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Post by yattongas on Dec 20, 2020 10:31:12 GMT
With travel restrictions in place etc it does seem odd having Sport teams and entourages travelling around. I wouldn't be surprised to see a one month break being imposed. How that would then affect the completion of the season, cup competitions I don't know. Thank goodness we're pretty healthy on a PPG basis currently from a league 1 survival point of view Surely if the season was abandoned now , points per game wouldn’t come into it because not enough of the season has been completed . Isn’t it something like at least 70% ? |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Dec 20, 2020 10:31:42 GMT
With travel restrictions in place etc it does seem odd having Sport teams and entourages travelling around. I wouldn't be surprised to see a one month break being imposed. How that would then affect the completion of the season, cup competitions I don't know. Thank goodness we're pretty healthy on a PPG basis currently from a league 1 survival point of view Yeah, I don't think they could possibly impose promotion/relegation without at least half the games being played. But istm last season set the precedent that you don't need many more than that. |
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Post by Strange Gas on Dec 20, 2020 10:40:03 GMT
When I saw the Pompey issue, I felt the same, although looks hopeful that game will still be on. But it’s not just fan pressure, I think everyone wants to carry on, not least the players. And it’s work for them as well as their passion.
I think better to carry on if safe and happy to do so than furlough, even if at say 50% output / capacity. Furlough costs anyway, will dent medium term ability and speed of recovery at restart. Where it’s problematic in my view is where there is (forced) exposure to major risk, like teachers having close contact with 200 kids a day indoors. Football isn’t like that, and can be done pretty safely, all be it I think best practice, like no contact at goal celebrations, seems to be being widely ignored. As more clubs see outbreaks, I’d expect to see a tightening of social distancing enforcement
On the league, whilst I’d rather games get played, I am thinking a good form based score predictor on the day might be a good idea for Covid related postponements. I’d be in favour of that (with appeals process) to keep season on track. Better than what we did last season with freezing positions when season was prematurely terminated
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Post by oliverhelmet on Dec 20, 2020 14:34:32 GMT
I will be very surprised if another lockdown in football does not happen. When teams have to shunt in 6,7 or 8 games to catch up COVID related postponements,the playing field is not level for everyone.The amount of games postponed over the upcoming holiday period may be the tipping point but I see a sporting lockdown as inevitable the way COVID rates are increasing at the moment.
edit:meant to add,the lockdown will eventually lead to the voiding of leagues 1+2,Prem will carry on for the dosh,not so sure about Championship this time as there were only about 9 games left and teams down to around 15th place were still within distance (6 or 7 points iirc) of the play off places,so they voted to continue,the majority are more likely to vote for ending the season this time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2020 14:46:13 GMT
It was always going to a strange and unique season and so it's proving. However talk of halting things feels really premature and unnecessary and should only be done as a last resort.
The hope is the environment and situation will improve significantly as we head towards spring when the vulnerable get protection.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 20, 2020 15:40:33 GMT
I will be very surprised if another lockdown in football does not happen. When teams have to shunt in 6,7 or 8 games to catch up COVID related postponements,the playing field is not level for everyone.The amount of games postponed over the upcoming holiday period may be the tipping point but I see a sporting lockdown as inevitable the way COVID rates are increasing at the moment. edit:meant to add,the lockdown will eventually lead to the voiding of leagues 1+2,Prem will carry on for the dosh,not so sure about Championship this time as there were only about 9 games left and teams down to around 15th place were still within distance (6 or 7 points iirc) of the play off places,so they voted to continue,the majority are more likely to vote for ending the season this time. Then again we might not have another game postponed this season. |
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Post by oliverhelmet on Dec 21, 2020 21:15:16 GMT
So 1/4 of games in league 1 falling foul of COVID for the 2nd consecutive Saturday and 2 games already lost for Tuesday 29th Dec.This is clearly heading towards an almighty fixture headache.Not looking good and no decision yet if Portsmouth are going to postpone some of their upcoming games.Not looking good at all.
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Post by Rod1883 on Dec 22, 2020 8:52:42 GMT
I will be very surprised if another lockdown in football does not happen. When teams have to shunt in 6,7 or 8 games to catch up COVID related postponements,the playing field is not level for everyone.The amount of games postponed over the upcoming holiday period may be the tipping point but I see a sporting lockdown as inevitable the way COVID rates are increasing at the moment. edit:meant to add,the lockdown will eventually lead to the voiding of leagues 1+2,Prem will carry on for the dosh,not so sure about Championship this time as there were only about 9 games left and teams down to around 15th place were still within distance (6 or 7 points iirc) of the play off places,so they voted to continue,the majority are more likely to vote for ending the season this time. Then again we might not have another game postponed this season. Fixed that for another potential scenario the way things are going........ |
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Dec 22, 2020 9:01:23 GMT
Then again we might not have another game postponed this season. Fixed that for another potential scenario the way things are going........ I’ve no idea on the feasibility of it and it’s just a thought that came into my head, but I wondered whether it would be worth the league looking into a January winter break. No games in jan, hopefully get the virus under control and go again with multiple fixtures in feb. of course no guarantee teams won’t be impacted in Feb but worth a shot as the league might not finish either way. |
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Post by Rod1883 on Dec 22, 2020 9:04:37 GMT
Fixed that for another potential scenario the way things are going........ I’ve no idea on the feasibility of it and it’s just a thought that came into my head, but I wondered whether it would be worth the league looking into a January winter break. No games in jan, hopefully get the virus under control and go again with multiple fixtures in feb. of course no guarantee teams won’t be impacted in Feb but worth a shot as the league might not finish either way. That similar to what I said earlier in this thread - a month's break to get things back under control |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 9:14:49 GMT
What are peoples thoughts on the Euros going ahead? Plenty of games scheduled for Wembley which i guess could be moved easily enough to other European destinations. This new strain is going to be through the whole country by Mid Jan, that is almost guaranteed. There is always a mass exodus from London for the Christmas break and despite Government advice i don't see much changing this year.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 22, 2020 9:18:52 GMT
But what if we don’t get it under control? It’s a good idea, but in reality there will still be outbreaks in squads.
All you need it one players kid to catch it at school and the games are off for the next 2 weeks. Then how do you finish it with literally no free game days?
For me I’d rather see the EFL say to members that every point counts and to be aware that if we complete 70% of the season be aware that Covid could stop it at any point and PPG inflicted.
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Post by Gassy on Dec 22, 2020 9:20:05 GMT
What are peoples thoughts on the Euros going ahead? Plenty of games scheduled for Wembley which i guess could be moved easily enough to other European destinations. This new strain is going to be through the whole country by Mid Jan, that is almost guaranteed. There is always a mass exodus from London for the Christmas break and despite Government advice i don't see much changing this year. Depends on the vaccine and how much is rolled out. I think we will be lucky to see 30% of fans in stadiums by then. I dream the Euros can have full attendances.. I have tickets to every England game and the final ffs 😟 |
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Post by lpgas1 on Dec 22, 2020 13:16:33 GMT
What are peoples thoughts on the Euros going ahead? Plenty of games scheduled for Wembley which i guess could be moved easily enough to other European destinations. This new strain is going to be through the whole country by Mid Jan, that is almost guaranteed. There is always a mass exodus from London for the Christmas break and despite Government advice i don't see much changing this year. I saw it on the news. Trains packed, a lot standing, alot not wearing masks and aboslutely no distancing. The trains companies should be fined for selling that many tickets. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 14:28:00 GMT
What are peoples thoughts on the Euros going ahead? Plenty of games scheduled for Wembley which i guess could be moved easily enough to other European destinations. This new strain is going to be through the whole country by Mid Jan, that is almost guaranteed. There is always a mass exodus from London for the Christmas break and despite Government advice i don't see much changing this year. If the new strain goes through the whole country it will go through the whole of Europe. Lords were planning on full attendances from July so it's not out of the question the Euros could have 50%/75%. If the vulnerable groups are vaccinated by that point, which they comfortably should be, there's absolutely no reason why majority shouldn't be able to attend. Personal responsibility should replace regulation by that stage. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 22, 2020 17:50:45 GMT
I’ve no idea on the feasibility of it and it’s just a thought that came into my head, but I wondered whether it would be worth the league looking into a January winter break. No games in jan, hopefully get the virus under control and go again with multiple fixtures in feb. of course no guarantee teams won’t be impacted in Feb but worth a shot as the league might not finish either way. That similar to what I said earlier in this thread - a month's break to get things back under control But what happens in a month if the number of cases is similar or even higher, I can't see cases dropping now until the spring. Until more than 50% of fixtures are cancelled I can't see why fixtures can't continue. |
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Post by playtowin on Dec 22, 2020 18:49:32 GMT
In years past most lower league clubs had fixture build ups due to cup replays and bad weather ruining pitches. It's always been a norm in football .
Been plenty of seasons where a club has had to squeeze 3 games into each week for a month.(as in games sat Tue thurs sat)
Unless teams hit the 10 games postponed level they will get through it.
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