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Post by kentgas on Feb 2, 2021 14:24:42 GMT
Yes and he picked up a red card there iirc
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Feb 2, 2021 15:16:04 GMT
Had a quick look at the teams in and around us in the league and their Jan activity... I know you shouldnt rely on others screwing up but hey, why not! On the whole clubs around us were quite busy.. not sure if that is good or bad for us. You could say that we have a settled squad with only Williams and Day to fully integrate (although they look pretty settled already) so a positive vs those teams that were very busy and will have to integrate a lot more. Sure there will be pros and cons and cons and pros etc Anyway couple of tables for you: Player | Position | Club | Type | In/Out | Hayden Carter | DEF | Burton Albion | Loan | In | Sean Clare | MID | Burton Albion | Loan | In | Dillon Barnes | GK | Burton Albion | Loan | In | Tom Hamer | DEF | Burton Albion | Perm | In | Jonny Smith | MID | Burton Albion | Free | In | Terrell Taylor | MID | Burton Albion | Loan | In | Josh Earl | DEF | Burton Albion | Loan | In | Ryan Broom | MID | Burton Albion | Loan | In | Neal Eardley | DEF | Burton Albion | Loan | Out | Stephen Quinn | MID | Burton Albion | Loan | Out | Charles Vernam | STR | Burton Albion | Loan | Out | Corey Whelan | DEF | Wigan Athletic | Free | In | George Johnson | DEF | Wigan Athletic | Loan | In | Zach Clough | MID | Wigan Athletic | Free | In | Tendayi Darikwa | DEF | Wigan Athletic | Free | In | Funso Ojo | MID | Wigan Athletic | Loan | In | Curtis Tilt | DEF | Wigan Athletic | Loan | In | Jamie Proctor | STR | Wigan Athletic | Loan | In | Ollie Crankshaw | MID | Wigan Athletic | Und | Out | Dominc Thompson | DEF | Swindon Town | Loan | In | Mark Travers | GK | Swindon Town | Loan | In | Kieron Freeman | DEF | Swindon Town | Free | In | Conor Masterson | DEF | Swindon Town | Loan | In | Tyrese Omotoye | STR | Swindon Town | Loan | In | Christopher Missilou | MID | Swindon Town | Perm | In | Jordon Garrick | MID | Swindon Town | Loan | In | Jordan Steves | MID | Swindon Town | End of Loan | Out | Dion Donohue | MID | Swindon Town | Free | Out | Jonny Smith | MID | Swindon Town | End of Loan | Out | Matt Smith | MID | Swindon Town | End of Loan | Out | Kieron Freeman | DEF | Swindon Town | Und | Out | Diallang Jaiyesimi | MID | Swindon Town | Und | Out | Sam Walker | GK | AFC Wimbledon | Loan | In | Darnell Johnson | DEF | AFC Wimbledon | Loan | In | George Dobson | MID | AFC Wimbledon | Loan | In | Corrie Andrews | STR | AFC Wimbledon | Und | In | Anthony Hartigan | MID | AFC Wimbledon | Loan | Out | Ryan Edmonson | STR | Northampton | Loan | In | Mickel Miller | STR | Northampton | Loan | In | Bryn Morris | MID | Northampton | Loan | In | Peter Kioso | DEF | Northampton | Loan | In | Chris Lines | MID | Northampton | Free | Out | Harry Smith | STR | Northampton | Loan | Out | Nicky Adams | MID | Northampton | Und | Out | Joe Martin | DEF | Northampton | Free | Out | Ricky Holmes | STR | Northampton | Free | Out | Christopher Missilou | MID | Northampton | Und | Out | Conor Shaughnessy | DEF | Rochdale | Loan | In | Conor Grant | MID | Rochdale | Und | In | Jack Vale | STR | Rochdale | Loan | In | Harry Chapman | MID | Shrewsbury | Loan | In | Matthew Penning ton | DEF | Shrewsbury | Loan | In | David Davis | MID | Shrewsbury | Free | In | Nathanael Ogbeta | DEF | Shrewsbury | Loan | In | Curtis Main | STR | Shrewsbury | Und | In | Shilow Tracey | MID | Shrewsbury | End of Loan | Out |
Club | In | Out | #of out sold | Burton Albion | 8 | 3 | 0 | Wigan Athletic | 7 | 1 | 1 | Swindon Town | 7 | 6 | 2 | AFC Wimbledon | 4 | 1 | 0 | Northampton | 4 | 6 | 2 | Rochdale | 3 | 0 | 0 | Shrewsbury | 5 | 1 | 0 |
Swindon had the most change with turnover of 13 players. Followed by Burton then Northampton. Rochdale did the least activity deciding to bolster their existing squad but not release or loan out any additional players. For Rovers... I think our 'squad player' activity (players over 21) included Tom Davies out on Loan. Abs Ogogo return from Loan and then Williams in on a perm and Day in on Loan. Source:https://d3d4football.com/league-one-two-transfers/ Thoughts?
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Feb 2, 2021 15:53:04 GMT
You are a fountain of knowledge goodnightirene1883! While I would have liked more signings it's a good point about having a settled squad, and I'd be worried if we'd made as many changes as say Swindon. So Burton have 6 players on loan! I swear there was some kind of rule against how many you could have?
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Post by alanrg on Feb 2, 2021 16:08:39 GMT
With loans u can only include 5 in a match day squad
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 16:12:27 GMT
With loans u can only include 5 in a match day squad And you can have eight in total.
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 2, 2021 16:13:39 GMT
Great research 1883. Thanks for that but seeing all those signings in a table form shows that most of the signings have been defence and midfielders and we’ve got plenty of those. Very few attackers or strikers. There are some but not many so just like West Ham we’ve decided not to just spend money for the sake of it!!
UTG!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 2, 2021 16:20:22 GMT
Great research 1883. Thanks for that but seeing all those signings in a table form shows that most of the signings have been defence and midfielders and we’ve got plenty of those. Very few attackers or strikers. There are some but not many so just like West Ham we’ve decided not to just spend money for the sake of it!! UTG! West Ham who are 5th in the Prem?
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Post by pirate on Feb 2, 2021 16:29:25 GMT
Great research 1883. Thanks for that but seeing all those signings in a table form shows that most of the signings have been defence and midfielders and we’ve got plenty of those. Very few attackers or strikers. There are some but not many so just like West Ham we’ve decided not to just spend money for the sake of it!! UTG! There have been at least 32 strikers or attack minded players that have move to League One clubs during this window alone and we couldn't even find one to bring in that would fit our requirements. Not good enough from all involved.
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Post by alanrg on Feb 2, 2021 16:31:31 GMT
Well said r recruitment team should hang there heads in shame absolutely pathetic
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 2, 2021 16:39:52 GMT
Great research 1883. Thanks for that but seeing all those signings in a table form shows that most of the signings have been defence and midfielders and we’ve got plenty of those. Very few attackers or strikers. There are some but not many so just like West Ham we’ve decided not to just spend money for the sake of it!! UTG! There have been at least 32 strikers or attack minded players that have move to League One clubs during this window alone and we couldn't even find one to bring in that would fit our requirements. Not good enough from all involved. Others teams battling to improve their squads for survival. Meanwhile we appear to be playing with our cocks hoping both ends of the pitch suddenly start to improve....although there has been little sign of that and we are midway through the season!
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 2, 2021 16:47:46 GMT
We certainly seem to have our head firmly in the sand
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 2, 2021 17:26:50 GMT
Great research 1883. Thanks for that but seeing all those signings in a table form shows that most of the signings have been defence and midfielders and we’ve got plenty of those. Very few attackers or strikers. There are some but not many so just like West Ham we’ve decided not to just spend money for the sake of it!! UTG! West Ham who are 5th in the Prem? It was a joke! I’ll remind myself to lose my sense of black humour. 😉 UTG!
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Post by fanatical on Feb 2, 2021 17:37:39 GMT
Well said r recruitment team should hang there heads in shame absolutely pathetic Can't do much if you are brassic!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 18:07:03 GMT
Well said r recruitment team should hang there heads in shame absolutely pathetic Can't do much if you are brassic! But where is the evidence to justify you continually saying we are skint or that the board do not support the clubs best interests or managers? 🧐
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 2, 2021 18:21:14 GMT
Can't do much if you are brassic! But where is the evidence to justify you continually saying we are skint or that the board do not support the clubs best interests or managers? 🧐 The fact we haven't signed an experienced striker in two transfer windows whilst selling one for £1m+ suggests either Wael's not prepared to fund one or our recruitment team can't find one, if it's the latter surely Wael needs to dismiss TW not promote him but I sense it's the former. We've no real ambition to improve from a mid to low table L1 side.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 18:45:58 GMT
But where is the evidence to justify you continually saying we are skint or that the board do not support the clubs best interests or managers? 🧐 The fact we haven't signed an experienced striker in two transfer windows whilst selling one for £1m+ suggests either Wael's not prepared to fund one or our recruitment team can't find one, if it's the latter surely Wael needs to dismiss TW not promote him but I sense it's the former. We've no real ambition to improve from a mid to low table L1 side. But as you well know Topper, we tried to sign experienced strikers - in Window 1 it was Garners decision to not sign one, not lack of funds or lack of capability in our recruitment team. He didn’t think we needed one as we were playing a lone striker formation and we had Ayunga, Daly, Hanlan and if needed Nicholson as well as Walker,Phillips etc... yes it was naive to put so much faith in inexperienced, untried youngsters but to some extent that was the model and I’m guessing he thought Hanlan and Nicholson were the proven experience. in window 2 we offered Gnaduillet, Stockley and if to be believed Smith and we were after a very particular, niche type of striker. Other than those (and possibly Bogle) what other big strong proven number 9’s have moved that are better than what we have and would walk into our side?
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Post by pirate on Feb 2, 2021 18:49:17 GMT
The fact we haven't signed an experienced striker in two transfer windows whilst selling one for £1m+ suggests either Wael's not prepared to fund one or our recruitment team can't find one, if it's the latter surely Wael needs to dismiss TW not promote him but I sense it's the former. We've no real ambition to improve from a mid to low table L1 side. But as you well know Topper, we tried to sign experienced strikers - in Window 1 it was Garners decision to not sign one, not lack of funds or lack of capability in our recruitment team. He didn’t think we needed one as we were playing a lone striker formation and we had Ayunga, Daly, Hanlan and if needed Nicholson as well as Walker,Phillips etc... yes it was naive to put so much faith in inexperienced, untried youngsters but to some extent that was the model and I’m guessing he thought Hanlan and Nicholson were the proven experience. in window 2 we offered Gnaduillet, Stockley and if to be believed Smith and we were after a very particular, niche type of striker. Other than those (and possibly Bogle) what other big strong proven number 9’s have moved that are better than what we have and would walk into our side? Smith is sh**e. Glad we didn't get him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 18:54:25 GMT
But as you well know Topper, we tried to sign experienced strikers - in Window 1 it was Garners decision to not sign one, not lack of funds or lack of capability in our recruitment team. He didn’t think we needed one as we were playing a lone striker formation and we had Ayunga, Daly, Hanlan and if needed Nicholson as well as Walker,Phillips etc... yes it was naive to put so much faith in inexperienced, untried youngsters but to some extent that was the model and I’m guessing he thought Hanlan and Nicholson were the proven experience. in window 2 we offered Gnaduillet, Stockley and if to be believed Smith and we were after a very particular, niche type of striker. Other than those (and possibly Bogle) what other big strong proven number 9’s have moved that are better than what we have and would walk into our side? Smith is sh**e. Glad we didn't get him. I don’t particularly rate him either but that’s based purely on a handful of game highlights and comments from others who I think (hope) have seen more of him. What I do think though is that he might have been a good foil for Hanlan and that there may have been coaching potential in him to develop him and maybe make a profit? He’s not in the same league of quality as Stockley or Gnaduillet
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Post by pirate on Feb 2, 2021 18:55:27 GMT
Smith is sh**e. Glad we didn't get him. I don’t particularly rate him either but that’s based purely on a handful of game highlights and comments from others who I think (hope) have seen more of him. What I do think though is that he might have been a good foil for Hanlan and that there may have been coaching potential in him to develop him and maybe make a profit? He’s not in the same league of quality as Stockley or Gnaduillet Lucky escape. Not good enough.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 2, 2021 19:12:56 GMT
The fact we haven't signed an experienced striker in two transfer windows whilst selling one for £1m+ suggests either Wael's not prepared to fund one or our recruitment team can't find one, if it's the latter surely Wael needs to dismiss TW not promote him but I sense it's the former. We've no real ambition to improve from a mid to low table L1 side. But as you well know Topper, we tried to sign experienced strikers - in Window 1 it was Garners decision to not sign one, not lack of funds or lack of capability in our recruitment team. He didn’t think we needed one as we were playing a lone striker formation and we had Ayunga, Daly, Hanlan and if needed Nicholson as well as Walker,Phillips etc... yes it was naive to put so much faith in inexperienced, untried youngsters but to some extent that was the model and I’m guessing he thought Hanlan and Nicholson were the proven experience. in window 2 we offered Gnaduillet, Stockley and if to be believed Smith and we were after a very particular, niche type of striker. Other than those (and possibly Bogle) what other big strong proven number 9’s have moved that are better than what we have and would walk into our side? Your comments don't make sense, if Garner didn't want to sign an experienced striker then why would the recruitment team try and sign one? As far as trying to sign Stockley, none of us know what we offered even if we made an offer, it might have been miles less than Blackburn were looking to receive.
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