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Post by Gastafari on Jan 22, 2021 1:02:03 GMT
That really was a well drilled defence wasn’t it? With Yates and Twentyman in the middle and big Nigel in goal! The best I’ve seen in watching for 35 years! UTG Rovers, or any team I guess, when they have success are full of good partnerships. Those from 89/90 were very good as were the ones from 73/74, Taylor and Green as CHs, Jacobs and Parsons at FB, Prince and Stanton in the middle and of course Warboys and Bannister up front. Nowadays most managers like to change things, tinker and get a strong squad which they feel a need to rotate. All these things make it harder now for partnerships to become strong. Football has changed and it’s unusual to see partnerships that last longer than a season in the EFL. Players do well and move on making what we saw in the past very unusual now. But we do need to try and make partnerships between now and the end of the season and give players the chance to get used to each other. UTG! Its very rare for players to play at a club for 10 or so years like Vaughan Jones did over 2 spells especially at this level these days. Also I don't think Jockey would last 5 minutes in todays game. He'd get sent off straight away. That Rovers team of the late 80's/Early 90's had "Hard" no nonsense players like Jones and Jock. You dont see those types of players anymore. For better or for worse the games completely changed in a lot of ways from 30 years ago
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Post by socrates on Jan 22, 2021 1:30:14 GMT
Rovers, or any team I guess, when they have success are full of good partnerships. Those from 89/90 were very good as were the ones from 73/74, Taylor and Green as CHs, Jacobs and Parsons at FB, Prince and Stanton in the middle and of course Warboys and Bannister up front. Nowadays most managers like to change things, tinker and get a strong squad which they feel a need to rotate. All these things make it harder now for partnerships to become strong. Football has changed and it’s unusual to see partnerships that last longer than a season in the EFL. Players do well and move on making what we saw in the past very unusual now. But we do need to try and make partnerships between now and the end of the season and give players the chance to get used to each other. UTG! Its very rare for players to play at a club for 10 or so years like Vaughan Jones did over 2 spells especially at this level these days. Also I don't think Jockey would last 5 minutes in todays game. He'd get sent off straight away. That Rovers team of the late 80's/Early 90's had "Hard" no nonsense players like Jones and Jock. You dont see those types of players anymore. For better or for worse the games completely changed in a lot of ways from 30 years ago It has changed your right but you still need toughness and you still need leadership.
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Post by blueridge on Jan 22, 2021 4:12:38 GMT
more rubbish,george of the jungle going by most posters weve got enough defenders who is going to make way, and, is he going to score the goals we need to stay in this division. its not what you know its who you know. catastrophe if he was anygood would any team in a relegation battle let him go land us with more crap div2 here we come!!!!! Interesting way of posting nonsense Biggles - you need to take your goggles off!!
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Post by lympstonegas on Jan 22, 2021 7:50:26 GMT
Some of us more mature forum members will remember Johnny Williams and Bobby 'Shadow' Williams - as well as trainer Bert Williams. Hopefully we will get some Jones players in so that we can remember Bobby and Wayne..... [ Don’t forget Bryn and Glyn - winger and keeper
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 22, 2021 8:43:11 GMT
more rubbish,george of the jungle going by most posters weve got enough defenders who is going to make way, and, is he going to score the goals we need to stay in this division. its not what you know its who you know. catastrophe if he was anygood would any team in a relegation battle let him go land us with more crap div2 here we come!!!!! Interesting way of posting nonsense Biggles - you need to take your goggles off!! Just a bit of plane speaking.
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Post by Westy on Jan 22, 2021 9:02:26 GMT
does this mean were dropping the 5 at the back for a back four? if so what centre half deserves to be dropped Its been a back four for a lot of games now pal.. actually converted to back 5 on tuesday though so you never know Nah, we're going a back 6, a mid 4. And that's it. Plus a Keeper
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Post by horfield on Jan 22, 2021 10:09:12 GMT
At least the manager has brought in a player that he knows and believes in and he hasn't had an unknown player dumped on him like the "highly recommended" Garner had to put up with. Now the big test, how many players can mister 100% place at other clubs in the next 11 days. We still have 43 pros on the books 10 more than the s---heads have
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 22, 2021 12:08:28 GMT
Rovers, or any team I guess, when they have success are full of good partnerships. Those from 89/90 were very good as were the ones from 73/74, Taylor and Green as CHs, Jacobs and Parsons at FB, Prince and Stanton in the middle and of course Warboys and Bannister up front. Nowadays most managers like to change things, tinker and get a strong squad which they feel a need to rotate. All these things make it harder now for partnerships to become strong. Football has changed and it’s unusual to see partnerships that last longer than a season in the EFL. Players do well and move on making what we saw in the past very unusual now. But we do need to try and make partnerships between now and the end of the season and give players the chance to get used to each other. UTG! Totally. Partnerships over the last few years that spring to mind for me are Lockyer - Taylor , that long diagonal ball over the top not always that accurate but long enough and Taylor or sometimes Ellis clever enough to always get under it and gain possession in the final third Kilgour - Craig. Under Coughlan so solid for 12 months , brilliant, pulled clear finished mid table then looking every bit a promotion chasing pair of centre half’s, some of the league top sides couldn’t get past them. Brown and Monkhouse, the inside forward drifting inside whilst browner bombed down the wing overlapping playing one twos with anybody looking for the ball and at that time the players had so much confidence everybody wanted the ball. Mansell / lines with Olly Clarke - olly was player of the year two seasons out of three partnered with these two and he formed a great midfield partnership with mans and lines but after they both left struggled to find his way. Leadbitter / bodin . With billy playing on the right but his strongest foot being his left and full of tricks he was absolutely lethal cutting inside on it from that side which set up loads of space for leads to bomb down the wing and fire low closes for Taylor and Harrison from the touch line because Bodin took the defenders with Him. If Bodin didn’t play leads in then he’d score anyway. Sinclair and Taylor - these players were both players that were absolute menaces to opposition players and they pressed well together and linked well together and read each other’s games well, sincs would win the ball and Taylor already knew what Sinclair was going to do with it. Also Taylor set Stu up for most of his goals although there weren’t many they were passages of play they just knew what each other were going to do. There’s probably others in the last 6 years I haven’t thought of. Having gone through that I’m trying to think of one we’ve got now. I’m struggling but as you say hopefully they will gel soon. Agree socrates. You’ve picked them out Brown / Monkhouse in the Conference and Craig / Alfie are the two stand outs for me. Difficult to see any at the moment though I think Oztumer and his buzzing around and ability to play through balls to someone like Hanson or Daly has potential but unfortunately it’s a long way off atm. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 22, 2021 12:15:14 GMT
Rovers, or any team I guess, when they have success are full of good partnerships. Those from 89/90 were very good as were the ones from 73/74, Taylor and Green as CHs, Jacobs and Parsons at FB, Prince and Stanton in the middle and of course Warboys and Bannister up front. Nowadays most managers like to change things, tinker and get a strong squad which they feel a need to rotate. All these things make it harder now for partnerships to become strong. Football has changed and it’s unusual to see partnerships that last longer than a season in the EFL. Players do well and move on making what we saw in the past very unusual now. But we do need to try and make partnerships between now and the end of the season and give players the chance to get used to each other. UTG! Its very rare for players to play at a club for 10 or so years like Vaughan Jones did over 2 spells especially at this level these days. Also I don't think Jockey would last 5 minutes in todays game. He'd get sent off straight away. That Rovers team of the late 80's/Early 90's had "Hard" no nonsense players like Jones and Jock. You dont see those types of players anymore. For better or for worse the games completely changed in a lot of ways from 30 years ago Yes, I suppose Tony Craig and his leadership, talking and general play is a “no nonsense” type of player. Hard to think of many others that we’ve had recently. Perhaps Peter Hartley for a short time but certainly not Max Elmer who looks as if he should be but probably isn’t! But players wouldn’t get away with it now, just imagine how the Crewe players would have been if they’d actually been tackled on Tuesday? Every time they got touched they went down, rolled about and needed the physio on. And I don’t think some of our players are immune from that comment either. UTG!
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Post by Rod1883 on Jan 22, 2021 12:49:06 GMT
Totally. Partnerships over the last few years that spring to mind for me are Lockyer - Taylor , that long diagonal ball over the top not always that accurate but long enough and Taylor or sometimes Ellis clever enough to always get under it and gain possession in the final third Kilgour - Craig. Under Coughlan so solid for 12 months , brilliant, pulled clear finished mid table then looking every bit a promotion chasing pair of centre half’s, some of the league top sides couldn’t get past them. Brown and Monkhouse, the inside forward drifting inside whilst browner bombed down the wing overlapping playing one twos with anybody looking for the ball and at that time the players had so much confidence everybody wanted the ball. Mansell / lines with Olly Clarke - olly was player of the year two seasons out of three partnered with these two and he formed a great midfield partnership with mans and lines but after they both left struggled to find his way. Leadbitter / bodin . With billy playing on the right but his strongest foot being his left and full of tricks he was absolutely lethal cutting inside on it from that side which set up loads of space for leads to bomb down the wing and fire low closes for Taylor and Harrison from the touch line because Bodin took the defenders with Him. If Bodin didn’t play leads in then he’d score anyway. Sinclair and Taylor - these players were both players that were absolute menaces to opposition players and they pressed well together and linked well together and read each other’s games well, sincs would win the ball and Taylor already knew what Sinclair was going to do with it. Also Taylor set Stu up for most of his goals although there weren’t many they were passages of play they just knew what each other were going to do. There’s probably others in the last 6 years I haven’t thought of. Having gone through that I’m trying to think of one we’ve got now. I’m struggling but as you say hopefully they will gel soon. Agree socrates. You’ve picked them out Brown / Monkhouse in the Conference and Craig / Alfie are the two stand outs for me. Difficult to see any at the moment though I think Oztumer and his buzzing around and ability to play through balls to someone like Hanson or Daly has potential but unfortunately it’s a long way off atm. UTG! Some great partnerships there. I would add McChrystal and Lockyer with similar comments to your Kilgour/Craig anlysis.
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 22, 2021 12:56:26 GMT
Campbell / Disley
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 22, 2021 13:06:28 GMT
I really think that a Monkhouse Partnership could be built with Rodman/Hare possibly now with Williams too
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 15:15:20 GMT
Disley was a great box to box midfield and could knock in a few goals. One of the best midfields we've had and one we moved on a little too early.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 22, 2021 18:10:23 GMT
I really think that a Monkhouse Partnership could be built with Rodman/Hare possibly now with Williams too Rodman? Isn't he just winding down to his retirement this summer? At least Bennett when he plays puts in the odd cross/shot I can't recall Rodman doing anything this season, and for most of last season once Garner was appointed. I also sense Hare's time at Rovers could well be up as I can't see Williams has joined us to be anything other than first choice RB.
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Post by LJG on Jan 22, 2021 18:12:36 GMT
more rubbish,george of the jungle going by most posters weve got enough defenders who is going to make way, and, is he going to score the goals we need to stay in this division. its not what you know its who you know. catastrophe if he was anygood would any team in a relegation battle let him go land us with more crap div2 here we come!!!!! Is this a poem?
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Post by Big Jock on Jan 22, 2021 18:17:21 GMT
more rubbish,george of the jungle going by most posters weve got enough defenders who is going to make way, and, is he going to score the goals we need to stay in this division. its not what you know its who you know. catastrophe if he was anygood would any team in a relegation battle let him go land us with more crap div2 here we come!!!!! Is this a poem? It’s a cr@p one if it is pal. That reminds of a time I got drunk an chatted up this bird down th pub. "You remind me of Bob Dylan," she said. "What?" I replied, "profound an poetic?" "No," she said, "I can hardly understand a f**king word you are saying."
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Post by kampucheagas on Jan 22, 2021 18:17:27 GMT
I really think that a Monkhouse Partnership could be built with Rodman/Hare possibly now with Williams too Rodman? Isn't he just winding down to his retirement this summer? At least Bennett when he plays puts in the odd cross/shot I can't recall Rodman doing anything this season, and for most of last season once Garner was appointed. I also sense Hare's time at Rovers could well be up as I can't see Williams has joined us to be anything other than first choice RB. No back up right back? I’d rather see Little gone, never fit, Tis obviously doesn’t rate him. Hare has potential, if I were a coach I’d be looking to integrate him slowly into a wide midfielder as he can cross and shoot. I feel some are too ready to dismiss those that haven’t really had a consistent chance this season. Upson and Rodman will be gone along with probably Tutonda, although I’d like to see him stay with us long term. This new right back will probably be first choice in a back 4. I’d look to possibly loan out Harries, I’ve been critical of him but if he toughen up in League 2 like Davies he could prove me wrong. He’s young for a centre back.
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Post by kruger on Jan 22, 2021 18:22:43 GMT
Shame that there is no new striker for tomorrow, I'm hearing that snow is forecast for this weekend, I wouldn't mind to be honest and the game getting postponed, also gives our injured players a bit more time, really not looking forward to tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 18:28:28 GMT
Shame that there is no new striker for tomorrow, I'm hearing that snow is forecast for this weekend, I wouldn't mind to be honest and the game getting postponed, also gives our injured players a bit more time, really not looking forward to tomorrow. T Bone says "Any likely snow will be on Sunday". Therefore i am reliably informed no snow until at least Sunday. I thank you.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Jan 22, 2021 18:56:42 GMT
I really think that a Monkhouse Partnership could be built with Rodman/Hare possibly now with Williams too Rodman? Isn't he just winding down to his retirement this summer? At least Bennett when he plays puts in the odd cross/shot I can't recall Rodman doing anything this season, and for most of last season once Garner was appointed. I also sense Hare's time at Rovers could well be up as I can't see Williams has joined us to be anything other than first choice RB. Rodman & Hare? Sadly neither player can defend very well. I would be surprised if either player is here next season.
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