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Post by Somersetgas on Jan 24, 2021 22:59:10 GMT
We've lost so many good guys to Gaschat forum it's a tragedy. This is the Gaschat forum?
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Post by biggles on Jan 24, 2021 23:44:46 GMT
i was brought to task over my use of the word tosser to describe some users of this forum and would like to apologise to one and all we can all get heated in many moments when things dont go right for us,i put it down to frustration but if i have offended anyone of my rovers family i do offer my sincere apology i mean we are all after the same goal,up the gas!
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 25, 2021 0:00:33 GMT
Is it now forum policy to bar talk of poor performance by Wael and or Widdrington? I ask because it seems the knives are out for anyone doing so. I thought agreement for no more personal insults had been agreed, yet Henbury Gas had recently had two posts removed for nothing insulting whatsoever, Gastower who very rarely posts has been banned, and I now here Swissgas, one of the most sane and sensible posters oh here with his considered and lively points. So can someone clarify what the rules of engagement are as this is beginning to look like a coup Proof, if it were needed, that the coven of witches conspire offline (or some other online means) to co-ordinate their Gaschat postings. You really are not as good at this as you think you are. It’s so obvious that they always have done. You don’t need to be Inspector morse more inspector gadget.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 9:01:49 GMT
Its all a bit sad really when mods start banning people on a football forum. Posts are hardly incitements to violence, although I do read the odd "say it to my face" comment, which is laughable. Banning Swissgas, a bloke whose record is stuck on track 2, was pathetic. I see the mod has admitted it was wrong, but do you mods not have pre agreed criteria by which to judge a post? Or is it down to the individual on the day? If so that cannot be right.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 25, 2021 9:26:36 GMT
Its all a bit sad really when mods start banning people on a football forum. Posts are hardly incitements to violence, although I do read the odd "say it to my face" comment, which is laughable. Banning Swissgas, a bloke whose record is stuck on track 2, was pathetic. I see the mod has admitted it was wrong, but do you mods not have pre agreed criteria by which to judge a post? Or is it down to the individual on the day? If so that cannot be right. We always try to reach a consensus and would usually seek 3 mods opinion on the matter to ban someone unless there was a fragrant break of the rules. We have a behind the closed doors chat with all the mods and if any action is taken in absentia then the other mods get to see what has gone on and the reasons for action. That is in addition to the admin system where official reports are made from posters and the action is recorded there. On Saturday there were just 2 mods online, somersetgas and myself. There was a bit to do and keep an eye on given the result, the nature of it and the discussions were going in all sorts of directions. Then you have the usual agenda brigade that pop up when things seem to be going badly with an attempt to seize the opportunity to create further discord. Me and Somerset discussed and dealt with what we saw it fit to be at the time, but didn’t hide anything from the other mods. That is why on a fresh day, with a different set of eyes, and a further discussion on the matter, one of the decisions was reversed. None of the mods are power trippy, if an action is taken one of us doesn’t agree with, we don’t get butt hurt over it, but the opinion is stored when on a different day that mod may be correct. It’s only some posters that have a problem that think any differently about the mod team, we all get on rather well and mostly have the same opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 9:28:43 GMT
Its all a bit sad really when mods start banning people on a football forum. Posts are hardly incitements to violence, although I do read the odd "say it to my face" comment, which is laughable. Banning Swissgas, a bloke whose record is stuck on track 2, was pathetic. I see the mod has admitted it was wrong, but do you mods not have pre agreed criteria by which to judge a post? Or is it down to the individual on the day? If so that cannot be right. We always try to reach a consensus and would usually seek 3 mods opinion on the matter to ban someone unless there was a fragrant break of the rules. We have a behind the closed doors chat with all the mods and if any action is taken in absentia then the other mods get to see what has gone on and the reasons for action. That is in addition to the admin system where official reports are made from posters and the action is recorded there. On Saturday there were just 2 mods online, somersetgas and myself. There was a bit to do and keep an eye on given the result, the nature of it and the discussions were going in all sorts of directions. Then you have the usual agenda brigade that pop up when things seem to be going badly with an attempt to seize the opportunity to create further discord. Me and Somerset discussed and dealt with what we saw it fit to be at the time, but didn’t hide anything from the other mods. That is why on a fresh day, with a different set of eyes, and a further discussion on the matter, one of the decisions was reversed. None of the mods are power trippy, if an action is taken one of us doesn’t agree with, we don’t get butt hurt over it, but the opinion is stored when on a different day that mod may be correct. It’s only some posters that have a problem that think any differently about the mod team, we all get on rather well and mostly have the same opinion. Ok Thank you for taking the time to reply.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 25, 2021 9:28:54 GMT
Its all a bit sad really when mods start banning people on a football forum. Posts are hardly incitements to violence, although I do read the odd "say it to my face" comment, which is laughable. Banning Swissgas, a bloke whose record is stuck on track 2, was pathetic. I see the mod has admitted it was wrong, but do you mods not have pre agreed criteria by which to judge a post? Or is it down to the individual on the day? If so that cannot be right. It's kinda vague. That's not ideal but otoh I don't think anyone really wants to have a formal process. We're not at work. Usually a mod will post something like 'I'm thinking of doing this, for this reason.' and gets feedback from whoever's around at the time. If you're not around you obviously can't give feedback. Stuff which is potentially inflammatory or libellous (slanderous?) or against the forum owners code of conduct (covid nonsense) has to be dealt with quickly, so we don't get to set a date for a hearing in a couple of days and make sure everyone is present. Nor, I think, would we want to do that. At the end of the day, we're just a bunch of football fans who would rather have a quiet life and not deal with so much bullshit. Which, is why, generally, istm, we tend to not act when in doubt. When we do act, it always upsets someone.
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Post by blueridge on Jan 25, 2021 10:14:29 GMT
Its all a bit sad really when mods start banning people on a football forum. Posts are hardly incitements to violence, although I do read the odd "say it to my face" comment, which is laughable. Banning Swissgas, a bloke whose record is stuck on track 2, was pathetic. I see the mod has admitted it was wrong, but do you mods not have pre agreed criteria by which to judge a post? Or is it down to the individual on the day? If so that cannot be right. It's kinda vague. That's not ideal but otoh I don't think anyone really wants to have a formal process. We're not at work. Usually a mod will post something like 'I'm thinking of doing this, for this reason.' and gets feedback from whoever's around at the time. If you're not around you obviously can't give feedback. S tuff which is potentially inflammatory or libellous (slanderous?) or against the forum owners code of conduct (covid nonsense) has to be dealt with quickly, so we don't get to set a date for a hearing in a couple of days and make sure everyone is present. Nor, I think, would we want to do that. At the end of the day, we're just a bunch of football fans who would rather have a quiet life and not deal with so much bullshit. Which, is why, generally, istm, we tend to not act when in doubt. When we do act, it always upsets someone. So, the forum owners who also own General Chat - and the same "code of conduct" doesn't apply? Bit of a disconnect there don't you think?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Jan 25, 2021 10:18:12 GMT
It's kinda vague. That's not ideal but otoh I don't think anyone really wants to have a formal process. We're not at work. Usually a mod will post something like 'I'm thinking of doing this, for this reason.' and gets feedback from whoever's around at the time. If you're not around you obviously can't give feedback. S tuff which is potentially inflammatory or libellous (slanderous?) or against the forum owners code of conduct (covid nonsense) has to be dealt with quickly, so we don't get to set a date for a hearing in a couple of days and make sure everyone is present. Nor, I think, would we want to do that. At the end of the day, we're just a bunch of football fans who would rather have a quiet life and not deal with so much bullshit. Which, is why, generally, istm, we tend to not act when in doubt. When we do act, it always upsets someone. So, the forum owners who also own General Chat - and the same "code of conduct" doesn't apply? Bit of a disconnect there don't you think? Not really sure what you mean. Stuff not about football we put in General Chat (etc) coz we don't want it in the football section (nothing to do with proboards, obviously). Misinformation about covid is against the proboards rules (the forum owners) and shouldn't be on any of their forums, according to guidelines they sent us.
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Post by outsidehitter30 on Jan 25, 2021 10:23:35 GMT
Is it now forum policy to bar talk of poor performance by Wael and or Widdrington? I ask because it seems the knives are out for anyone doing so. I thought agreement for no more personal insults had been agreed, yet Henbury Gas had recently had two posts removed for nothing insulting whatsoever, Gastower who very rarely posts has been banned, and I now here Swissgas, one of the most sane and sensible posters oh here with his considered and lively points. So can someone clarify what the rules of engagement are as this is beginning to look like a coup The Problem is there are certain posters that like to throw "forum grenade's" then duck back under the duvet and watch the havoc it causes! Generally it's the same very few posters who are doing this and it is overly negative both on the forum and the club. To be clear we are talking about posters that are quite articulate & in my view (and that's what a forum is about) do it deliberately. This gives the Moderators every right to remove these sort of posts or posters & generally I think they do a pretty good job. I think this is a really well Moderated forum and I don't feel there's any subject is off limits, just the language needs to be measured, proportional and considered. In comparison (Gaschat) is an Independent forum OTIB is not. You can see all threads on Gaschat even if you are not signed up. This is not the case on OTIB. You have to be signed up. They hide back certain threads in particular transfer discussions. It's owned by the Franchise itself and they have a habit of squashing complete threads if there's to much criticism of them. This has happened a number times especially on the subject of the Landsown family or there business model even when the comments are quite mild. Personally very happy Gaschat is Independent. Keep up the good work Mods.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 25, 2021 10:54:14 GMT
Is it now forum policy to bar talk of poor performance by Wael and or Widdrington? I ask because it seems the knives are out for anyone doing so. I thought agreement for no more personal insults had been agreed, yet Henbury Gas had recently had two posts removed for nothing insulting whatsoever, Gastower who very rarely posts has been banned, and I now here Swissgas, one of the most sane and sensible posters oh here with his considered and lively points. So can someone clarify what the rules of engagement are as this is beginning to look like a coup The Problem is there are certain posters that like to throw "forum grenade's" then duck back under the duvet and watch the havoc it causes! Generally it's the same very few posters who are doing this and it is overly negative both on the forum and the club. To be clear we are talking about posters that are quite articulate & in my view (and that's what a forum is about) do it deliberately. This gives the Moderators every right to remove these sort of posts or posters & generally I think they do a pretty good job. I think this is a really well Moderated forum and I don't feel there's any subject is off limits, just the language needs to be measured, proportional and considered. In comparison (Gaschat) is an Independent forum OTIB is not. You can see all threads on Gaschat even if you are not signed up. This is not the case on OTIB. You have to be signed up. They hide back certain threads in particular transfer discussions. It's owned by the Franchise itself and they have a habit of squashing complete threads if there's to much criticism of them. This has happened a number times especially on the subject of the Landsown family or there business model even when the comments are quite mild. Personally very happy Gaschat is Independent. Keep up the good work Mods. I totally agree and that was one of the main reasons why one got banned on Saturday. We had all been patient in the past but the contribution to the forum was just to attack and be divisive. Perhaps that should be held up as an example of how we want to go forward from here. Like AF said, you can’t please everyone with the collective decisions you make but if people posted properly and to quote Hugo The Elder “don’t be a dick” you won’t be in line for a discussion let alone a banning.
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Post by Okebournegas on Jan 25, 2021 14:14:21 GMT
There’s more drama on here than an episode of eastenders 😂😂
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Post by outsidehitter30 on Jan 25, 2021 14:43:55 GMT
Is it now forum policy to bar talk of poor performance by Wael and or Widdrington? I ask because it seems the knives are out for anyone doing so. I thought agreement for no more personal insults had been agreed, yet Henbury Gas had recently had two posts removed for nothing insulting whatsoever, Gastower who very rarely posts has been banned, and I now here Swissgas, one of the most sane and sensible posters oh here with his considered and lively points. So can someone clarify what the rules of engagement are as this is beginning to look like a coup The Problem is there are certain posters that like to throw "forum grenade's" then duck back under the duvet and watch the havoc it causes! Generally it's the same very few posters who are doing this and it is overly negative both on the forum and the club. To be clear we are talking about posters that are quite articulate & in my view (and that's what a forum is about) do it deliberately. This gives the Moderators every right to remove these sort of posts or posters & generally I think they do a pretty good job. I think this is a really well Moderated forum and I don't feel there's any subject is off limits, just the language needs to be measured, proportional and considered. In comparison (Gaschat) is an Independent forum OTIB is not. You can see all threads on Gaschat even if you are not signed up. This is not the case on OTIB. You have to be signed up. They hide back certain threads in particular transfer discussions. It's owned by the Franchise itself and they have a habit of squashing complete threads if there's to much criticism of them. This has happened a number times especially on the subject of the Landsown family or there business model even when the comments are quite mild. Personally very happy Gaschat is Independent.
Keep up the good work Mods. In four hours this post has been seen and commented on by those it was directed at on here who have been dealing with a minor problem. However over on "bitter and twisted" it's got them punching holes in the doors of there houses. Deary me! it wasn't meant as a did at them but gosh have'nt they bitten. Cumulating in one of the Mods trying to defend there position yet confirming exactly what what I was saying about hidden threads. "If" they truly were the big club they think they are they would'nt need to react like they do! But really 2300+ pages (this time) on not a lot more other than just commenting on this forum really says everything about there franchise and there supporters.
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Post by LJG on Jan 25, 2021 14:52:38 GMT
The Problem is there are certain posters that like to throw "forum grenade's" then duck back under the duvet and watch the havoc it causes! Generally it's the same very few posters who are doing this and it is overly negative both on the forum and the club. To be clear we are talking about posters that are quite articulate & in my view (and that's what a forum is about) do it deliberately. This gives the Moderators every right to remove these sort of posts or posters & generally I think they do a pretty good job. I think this is a really well Moderated forum and I don't feel there's any subject is off limits, just the language needs to be measured, proportional and considered. In comparison (Gaschat) is an Independent forum OTIB is not. You can see all threads on Gaschat even if you are not signed up. This is not the case on OTIB. You have to be signed up. They hide back certain threads in particular transfer discussions. It's owned by the Franchise itself and they have a habit of squashing complete threads if there's to much criticism of them. This has happened a number times especially on the subject of the Landsown family or there business model even when the comments are quite mild. Personally very happy Gaschat is Independent.
Keep up the good work Mods. In four hours this post has been seen and commented on by those it was directed at on here who have been dealing with a minor problem. However over on "bitter and twisted" it's got them punching holes in the doors of there houses. Deary me! it wasn't meant as a did at them but gosh have'nt they bitten. Cumulating in one of the Mods trying to defend there position yet confirming exactly what what I was saying about hidden threads. "If" they truly were the big club they think they are they would'nt need to react like they do! But really 2300+ pages (this time) on not a lot more other than just commenting on this forum really says everything about there franchise and there supporters. Have never understood your desire to read their rubbish, let alone report on it back here.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 25, 2021 15:41:32 GMT
The Problem is there are certain posters that like to throw "forum grenade's" then duck back under the duvet and watch the havoc it causes! Generally it's the same very few posters who are doing this and it is overly negative both on the forum and the club. To be clear we are talking about posters that are quite articulate & in my view (and that's what a forum is about) do it deliberately. This gives the Moderators every right to remove these sort of posts or posters & generally I think they do a pretty good job. I think this is a really well Moderated forum and I don't feel there's any subject is off limits, just the language needs to be measured, proportional and considered. In comparison (Gaschat) is an Independent forum OTIB is not. You can see all threads on Gaschat even if you are not signed up. This is not the case on OTIB. You have to be signed up. They hide back certain threads in particular transfer discussions. It's owned by the Franchise itself and they have a habit of squashing complete threads if there's to much criticism of them. This has happened a number times especially on the subject of the Landsown family or there business model even when the comments are quite mild. Personally very happy Gaschat is Independent. Keep up the good work Mods. I totally agree and that was one of the main reasons why one got banned on Saturday. We had all been patient in the past but the contribution to the forum was just to attack and be divisive. Perhaps that should be held up as an example of how we want to go forward from here. Like AF said, you can’t please everyone with the collective decisions you make but if people posted properly and to quote Hugo The Elder “don’t be a dick” you won’t be in line for a discussion let alone a banning. Was SwissGas really banned for questioning how the club's being run by Wael? What next posters banned if they don't agree with Tisdale's team selections or tactics?
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 25, 2021 15:51:15 GMT
I totally agree and that was one of the main reasons why one got banned on Saturday. We had all been patient in the past but the contribution to the forum was just to attack and be divisive. Perhaps that should be held up as an example of how we want to go forward from here. Like AF said, you can’t please everyone with the collective decisions you make but if people posted properly and to quote Hugo The Elder “don’t be a dick” you won’t be in line for a discussion let alone a banning. Was SwissGas really banned for questioning how the club's being run by Wael? What next posters banned if they don't agree with Tisdale's team selections or tactics? No.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 15:57:35 GMT
Was SwissGas really banned for questioning how the club's being run by Wael? What next posters banned if they don't agree with Tisdale's team selections or tactics? No. Why then, what forum rule (s) were broken?
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Post by Somersetgas on Jan 25, 2021 15:59:08 GMT
I totally agree and that was one of the main reasons why one got banned on Saturday. We had all been patient in the past but the contribution to the forum was just to attack and be divisive. Perhaps that should be held up as an example of how we want to go forward from here. Like AF said, you can’t please everyone with the collective decisions you make but if people posted properly and to quote Hugo The Elder “don’t be a dick” you won’t be in line for a discussion let alone a banning. Was SwissGas really banned for questioning how the club's being run by Wael? What next posters banned if they don't agree with Tisdale's team selections or tactics? I have held my hands up that I misjudged Swiss Gas posts on Saturday, If you would like to discuss the matter more with me, by all means send me a P.M.
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Post by LJG on Jan 25, 2021 16:02:54 GMT
Was SwissGas really banned for questioning how the club's being run by Wael? What next posters banned if they don't agree with Tisdale's team selections or tactics? I have held my hands up that I misjudged Swiss Gas posts on Saturday, If you would like to discuss the matter more with me, by all means send me a P.M. Don't worry. Whatever the truth is, Topper will now repeat that he was banned for criticising Wael from now on. As will Gasincider.
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Post by Big Jock on Jan 25, 2021 16:16:48 GMT
Here’s something ta consider folks, if you will give me a minute o’ yer time please: While yer sitting there doin f**k all, lift your right foot off th floor an make clockwise circles with it. Now, while doing this, draw th number "6" in th air with your right hand - Your foot will change direction!!! And there is nothing yous can do about it. Thank me later , you’re welcome 👍
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