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Post by pirate on Feb 4, 2021 16:04:01 GMT
Our lack of creativity and ability to break up attacks in midfield is a problem, but so is our ability to hold up the ball in attacking areas to relieve some pressure on the defence. In only 6 games out of 24 in the league we have managed to score two goals or more, that isn't good enough. Our defence isn't the best and neither is our attack. Or midfield. I said during the window that the whole spine of our outfield needs improving and now we have to find a way of doing that without adding to the squad in the transfer market. Maybe a coach or two is the answer, or a magician or miracle worker. Didn't he try a magician when Uri Geller put special crystals behind the goals at Exeter and they still lost I think. Correct. www.cheshire-live.co.uk/sport/football/uri-geller-used-energy-infused-17218479We're screwed then.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 4, 2021 16:11:12 GMT
When the platform for the creation of chances and making attacks is so poor it's unsurprising we struggle at the top end. I know our strikeforce is inexperienced, but with a decent defence and midfield not giving away goals, and able to present a number of reasonable chances I'm convinced they can score enough goals. Of course another experienced striker in the window would have been good, but our major failings are elsewhere. I and others have said we do need a defensive coach to organise and set up the way to defend in numerous situations - AND we need the on field organisation to ensure we don't just forget in the heat of battle. My priorities would be a GC type coach, an old head defender if there is one out there out of contract, and a similar battling midfielder. Our lack of creativity and ability to break up attacks in midfield is a problem, but so is our ability to hold up the ball in attacking areas to relieve some pressure on the defence. In only 6 games out of 24 in the league we have managed to score two goals or more, that isn't good enough. Our defence isn't the best and neither is our attack. Or midfield. I said during the window that the whole spine of our outfield needs improving and now we have to find a way of doing that without adding to the squad in the transfer market. Maybe a coach or two is the answer, or a magician or miracle worker. Agreed mate we are poor all over the pitch. The spine needs improvement first that's why I said we needed 3 players on deadline day (and that was just to start with)
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Post by tbonegas on Feb 4, 2021 16:43:30 GMT
We need to get shot of Kilgour,Ehmer,Baldwin Harries. These 4 in particular are incapable of the the job for which they are paid. No defensive coach can teach them how to do it because they are beyond that.
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Post by wertongas on Feb 4, 2021 17:11:04 GMT
Kilgour is a quality defender who is being scouted by clubs further up the ladder, problem is BG messed about with his game and he lost allot of confidence. Ehmer is slow while he is deciding what to do forwards have passed him by and put the ball in the net. If you put him up against Barrett and a tortoise, tortoise would win. Still think Kilgour and Davies alongside each other is our best defensive pairing.
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Post by curlywurly on Feb 4, 2021 17:30:36 GMT
We've got the joint third worst goals for record in the league, do we need to employ an attacking coach too? Yes - Marcus Stewart.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 4, 2021 17:33:57 GMT
With the failure to bring in any new players in the window besides Day and Williams, and after losing Cole’s, I really do feel the club would benefit from hiring coaches for GK, Defence and Attack.
Worth doing, especially if we’re going to be relying on a youth first strategy, they’ll need much more coaching than experienced pros would.
That’s why you’re saving so much money on the experienced pros after all - they need much less coaching.
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Post by gashead1981 on Feb 4, 2021 21:04:16 GMT
I wonder how fit Tom Davies is, what we need is a talker and a leader and Davies is all of those things.
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Post by EastVanGas on Feb 4, 2021 21:14:10 GMT
I wonder how fit Tom Davies is, what we need is a talker and a leader and Davies is all of those things. He is at Barrow, and as I understand it, we can't recall him outside of a transfer window.
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Post by pirate on Feb 4, 2021 21:15:57 GMT
I wonder how fit Tom Davies is, what we need is a talker and a leader and Davies is all of those things. He isn't an option now we have sent him on loan.
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Post by pirate on Feb 4, 2021 21:17:08 GMT
I wonder how fit Tom Davies is, what we need is a talker and a leader and Davies is all of those things. He is at Barrow, and as I understand it, we can't recall him outside of a transfer window. Correct. 55.1.2 any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the Winter Transfer Window;
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 21, 2021 13:08:03 GMT
Take emotions, working with TW etc out the equation, why not approach GC for a temporary defensive coach role?
Something familiar and relative success in past, just offer a contract until end of season and re-evaluate.?
Bypass KM, get an attacking coach in too.
Sounds like a cheap option, but this part of the training needs to be addressed while we have the time to do it.
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Post by gasfred on Feb 21, 2021 13:29:46 GMT
No wonder Barton wanted his own staff with him, No new manager worth his salt would take the job with coaches who have survived two managerial sackings three with Mahar. They should have been sacked along with the manager
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 13:39:54 GMT
Take emotions, working with TW etc out the equation, why not approach GC for a temporary defensive coach role? Something familiar and relative success in past, just offer a contract until end of season and re-evaluate.? Bypass KM, get an attacking coach in too. Sounds like a cheap option, but this part of the training needs to be addressed while we have the time to do it. We don’t want GC back. We don’t want DC back. In fact we don’t want anyone back. We want a fresh manager with his own coaching staff and ideas if we got any ambition.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 13:44:20 GMT
We've got the joint third worst goals for record in the league, do we need to employ an attacking coach too? Yes - Marcus Stewart.
Or Rickie Lambert.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Feb 21, 2021 14:39:00 GMT
Take emotions, working with TW etc out the equation, why not approach GC for a temporary defensive coach role? Something familiar and relative success in past, just offer a contract until end of season and re-evaluate.? Bypass KM, get an attacking coach in too. Sounds like a cheap option, but this part of the training needs to be addressed while we have the time to do it. We don’t want GC back. We don’t want DC back. In fact we don’t want anyone back. So you're a bit on the fence, then? Apologies! Mischievous.. I just don't know any other credible firefighter defensive coach....
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Post by lpgas1 on Feb 21, 2021 19:00:41 GMT
We've got the joint third worst goals for record in the league, do we need to employ an attacking coach too? Yes - Marcus Stewart.
Nah Cureton, scored twice as many, and Stewart is a Ted at heart, Curo is a Gashead 100%
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Post by lavalamp on Feb 21, 2021 19:11:03 GMT
Joseph Barton - coach the midfield. Clint Hill - coach the defense. Andy Mangan - coach the strikers.
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Post by rosssgb on Feb 21, 2021 19:18:32 GMT
Clint Hill hopefully, sort the soft lady gardens out.
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Post by socrates on Feb 21, 2021 19:25:07 GMT
We’ve been saying it all season. I’ve got no idea who has been working with the defensive side of the team this season, it’s likely that it’s chopped and changed due to the managers position changing so much which probably hasn’t helped at all if that’s the case. We are a basket case at the moment and need to make a decision who’s doing what for the rest of the season before these next make or break 3 home games against relegation rivals.
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Post by pucklegas on Feb 21, 2021 20:14:40 GMT
Joseph Barton - coach the midfield. Clint Hill - coach the defense. Andy Mangan - coach the strikers. I looked at our fixtures earlier and told my 8 year old that I believe we will go down, this sounds like a plan hope we can improve enough to stay up.
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