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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Feb 9, 2021 22:02:47 GMT
Who realistically could come in at this stage of the season and sort this shower of sh**e out? Because we will go down if something isn't sorted in the next couple of weeks. GC? He must be desperate to get back into management? Shrewsbury beat Sunderland tonight and I bet they've a smaller playing budget than us, Cotterill even still lives in Bristol. Thought he lived in Cheltenham (splitting hairs ) 😃Utg
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 9, 2021 22:08:30 GMT
We will win on Saturday. Bump that bastard!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 22:12:06 GMT
Who realistically could come in at this stage of the season and sort this shower of sh**e out? Because we will go down if something isn't sorted in the next couple of weeks. GC? He must be desperate to get back into management? Shrewsbury beat Sunderland tonight and I bet they've a smaller playing budget than us, Cotterill even still lives in Bristol. I reckon someone with a bit of football nous suggested to Starnes that after sacking Garner we go out and hire the “local egotistical w**ker” and Starnes, true to form, picked the wrong one.
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Post by brfckeys on Feb 9, 2021 22:15:34 GMT
May not be a way out but I think we should bring in one of the youth strikers, I know even more youngsters is the last thing we need but if none of our current bunch can hit a barn door than what harm can it do. We have a slot open in our 22 man squad according to the post so might as well give it a punt. It can't be any worse than what he have already and maybe one of them is good enough for the step up, I mean what's the point in having them if your not gonna give them a go, especially now when we are so bad up top.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 22:35:59 GMT
GC? He must be desperate to get back into management? Shrewsbury beat Sunderland tonight and I bet they've a smaller playing budget than us, Cotterill even still lives in Bristol. Thought he lived in Cheltenham (splitting hairs ) 😃 Utg Lives in the Bristol area, that's why he is in Southmead hospital recovering from covid.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 22:40:09 GMT
Thought he lived in Cheltenham (splitting hairs ) 😃 Utg Lives in the Bristol area, that's why he is in Southmead hospital recovering from covid. Is he *still* in hospital?! Jeez...good luck to him for a full recovery. Sounds like his team are doing him proud at the moment.
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Post by pirate on Feb 9, 2021 22:47:49 GMT
I'm hoping there is a free agent out there that can come in and give us a boost and I'm also hoping there are four worst teams than us.
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Post by curlywurly on Feb 9, 2021 23:40:25 GMT
I'm hoping there is a free agent out there that can come in and give us a boost and I'm also hoping there are four worst teams than us. With the news that the EFL has been forced to scrap the salary cap, Wael has to dig deep or face relegation. We've got some decent players, but we are going into every game knowing that we have a powder puff attack. What is worse is that the Manager is setting up knowing that.
We need a modern day Andy Rammell - someone that has experience and presence.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Feb 9, 2021 23:50:20 GMT
Lives in the Bristol area, that's why he is in Southmead hospital recovering from covid. Is he *still* in hospital?! Jeez...good luck to him for a full recovery. Sounds like his team are doing him proud at the moment. Ok . Last time I spoke to him he was living just outside Cheltenham ( a while ago ) 👍👍👍
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Post by montygas on Feb 10, 2021 9:19:29 GMT
I like looking at stats, so for anyone else that is interested here's some rubbish that may or may not come to fruition There is still 60 points to play for. Since our return to League one in 2016 the closest season in terms of current points is the 2018/2019 season where we saw DC sacked and replaced by GC. After 26 games we were on 27 points (3 more than current) after the remaining 20 games we ended up finishing 15th on 54pts. GC took over from DC after the 21st game where we had 17pts on the board (5 less than we had this season at the 21st game mark). GC managed the remaining 25 games achieving 9 wins, 10 draws & 6 losses (37 points from a possible 75). PT has been in charge for 15 games and has achieved 3 wins, 3 draws and 9 losses (12 points). For "fun" applying that kind of avg. over the remaining 20 games we could expect another 4 wins, 4 draws & 12 losses (16 points). Bringing us to a final total of 43 points. Looking at the tables from league one and what is needed to avoid relegation (finishing in 20th place) 19/20 35pts* (ignoring this from the avg as its an anomaly due to Covid & Bury) 18/19 50pts 17/18 51pts 16/17 50pts 15/16 50pts 14/15 52pts Avg. pts to stay up over last 5 years* has been 50.6pts call it a rounded 51pts. On current form we would therefore fall short by 6pts.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 10, 2021 9:47:44 GMT
Avg. pts to stay up over last 5 years* has been 50.6pts call it a rounded 51pts. On current form we would therefore fall short by 6pts. 538 thinks 44 points will be enough. projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/league-one/It's obviously not pin-point accurate, but I think it's pretty decent, especially as it's so close down there, and there is a clear bottom 7, so the bottom 4 are likely to be from that 7. And fwiw, it has now placed us in the bottom 4, with a 58% chance of relegation (up from 53% before the last game).
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Feb 10, 2021 9:53:18 GMT
Avg. pts to stay up over last 5 years* has been 50.6pts call it a rounded 51pts. On current form we would therefore fall short by 6pts. 538 thinks 44 points will be enough. projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/league-one/It's obviously not pin-point accurate, but I think it's pretty decent, especially as it's so close down there, and there is a clear bottom 7, so the bottom 4 are likely to be from that 7. And fwiw, it has now placed us in the bottom 4, with a 58% chance of relegation (up from 53% before the last game). My days we need to convert these chances into goals don't we - getting a bit upsetting now
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 10, 2021 9:59:55 GMT
Cant do any worse then getting mehew back and starting him and walker. They can have Westbrookes unused teamwear.
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Post by TugPhase on Feb 10, 2021 10:02:35 GMT
2 managers in one season with both delivering awful results (just 6 wins between them) and a team who doesn't know their ass from their elbow! Is there any way out of this inevitable relegation season? Inevitable relegation season - we're not in the bottom four and I don't think we have been all season? How is it inevitable? Yeah we are in shocking form, but we're still not in the relegation zone! How about we show some fighting spirit instead of rolling over? Even if we were in Burton's position I'm still looking at the fixtures and looking for the points we will need, let alone actually being safe! There are 7 teams in the danger zone - 3 of them are staying up. Let's fight to be one of them.
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Post by miltongas on Feb 10, 2021 10:13:35 GMT
If you can't score you go down and we can't hit a barn door! That’s a bit harsh. We’d hit it - but we’d have been trying to miss it.
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Post by playtowin on Feb 10, 2021 10:52:32 GMT
I like looking at stats, so for anyone else that is interested here's some rubbish that may or may not come to fruition There is still 60 points to play for. Since our return to League one in 2016 the closest season in terms of current points is the 2018/2019 season where we saw DC sacked and replaced by GC. After 26 games we were on 27 points (3 more than current) after the remaining 20 games we ended up finishing 15th on 54pts. GC took over from DC after the 21st game where we had 17pts on the board (5 less than we had this season at the 21st game mark). GC managed the remaining 25 games achieving 9 wins, 10 draws & 6 losses (37 points from a possible 75). PT has been in charge for 15 games and has achieved 3 wins, 3 draws and 9 losses (12 points). For "fun" applying that kind of avg. over the remaining 20 games we could expect another 4 wins, 4 draws & 12 losses (16 points). Bringing us to a final total of 43 points. Looking at the tables from league one and what is needed to avoid relegation (finishing in 20th place) 19/20 35pts* (ignoring this from the avg as its an anomaly due to Covid & Bury) 18/19 50pts 17/18 51pts 16/17 50pts 15/16 50pts 14/15 52pts Avg. pts to stay up over last 5 years* has been 50.6pts call it a rounded 51pts. On current form we would therefore fall short by 6pts. Although our first relegation down to league 2 had us finishing with 51pts and something like a -5 goal difference (ish). 54 pts needs to always be the minimum target to pass each season.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 11:08:36 GMT
Very hard to see a way out of this mess.
40 odd pro in a season with no development football was madness. The failure to add at least one experienced striker in the last 2 windows was pure stupidity. The lack of balance in the squad was simply naive. The appointment of Tisdale was the easy option but with his poor record in league 1 it was always a high risk strategy.
I think the blame must primarily rest with the Director of Football who took or allowed these stupid and naive decisions.
The last couple of games suggests the problem is not lack of effort from players but simply the lack of experience and particularly an experienced striker. But heads will drop without results for sure.
Wael as an overseas owner has to place his money and trust in the hands of hired help and his ability to find and select the right people for key jobs is certainly questionable. We have seen many board members come and go and few seem to be based locally, understand or love the club or have the ability to take the club forward. Too many have taken his money and few seem to have given value in return.
Until board recruitment is sorted out, the club will struggle. Tisdale will not walk and his sacking will not guarantee a better replacement or save the club from relegation. For me there is no short term way out of this mess. Looks to me that we face a couple of seasons of league 2 football whilst contracts run down and slowly but surely new appointment are made.
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Post by northseagas on Feb 10, 2021 11:20:13 GMT
Find a striker who is a free agent ,who knows how to score , play him , score goals , win games .. easy And you never know the other so- called strikers at the club may also pick up the knack of hitting the back off the net
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Post by hardingegas on Feb 10, 2021 11:35:26 GMT
That's the answer - find an out of contract experienced target man who can be a precence in the opponent's box, he needn't be a prolific scorer just a player who'll put the opposition under pressure and create more space for the likes of Nicholson and Hanlan .
There must be someone out there in the Brett Pitman mould? Oh, dear just realised he's at Swindon!
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Post by LJG on Feb 10, 2021 12:08:27 GMT
Cant do any worse then getting mehew back and starting him and walker. They can have Westbrookes unused teamwear. Goodness do you think David Mehew and Richard Walker would be able to stay fit for the rest of the season at their age?
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