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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 17:00:12 GMT
Please don’t do the cheap option for the new manager incoming,it’s costing you more money than it’s worth. please look at the likes of Paul cook,Coleman from Accrington,plus plenty of other good candidates out there.
By the way I’ve been told to ask you don’t take any notice of Pirate or GGMI no offence guys UTG......
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Post by singupgas on Feb 10, 2021 18:51:49 GMT
Have to agree with this, surely we can't make the same mistakes again. We absolutely NEED experienced manager with some level of success. We can't have afford another unproven appointment.
If we brought in the likes of Paul Cook, I would hope we would accept that he is fighting an up hill battle and even if the worse was to happen we would stick with him next season.
Any manager coming in now, if they manage to keep us up it will be a miracle.
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Post by theduke on Feb 10, 2021 18:58:27 GMT
In fairness to Wael he's now handed over significant compo to two managers on long-term contracts since November. Tisdale did not come cheap so that's big sums there.
All the JCH money has already been squandered.
He may might want to fork out but money talks and we might have to settle on an internal person.
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Feb 10, 2021 19:05:40 GMT
Absolutely no chance we're getting Cook imo. Wasn't he linked with the City job before Ashton got it?
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Post by theduke on Feb 10, 2021 19:07:05 GMT
Absolutely no chance we're getting Cook imo. Wasn't he linked with the City job before Ashton got it? T Aye, he's turned down Cardiff and Sheffield Wednesday recently. Apparently he wants a "project" as his next club. I can't see him looking this far down mind. Would love to be proved wrong obviously.
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 10, 2021 19:10:13 GMT
Have to agree with this, surely we can't make the same mistakes again. We absolutely NEED experienced manager with some level of success. We can't have afford another unproven appointment. If we brought in the likes of Paul Cook, I would hope we would accept that he is fighting an up hill battle and even if the worse was to happen we would stick with him next season. Any manager coming in now, if they manage to keep us up it will be a miracle. If that’s the case, why did they get rid of PT then??
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Post by singupgas on Feb 10, 2021 19:15:16 GMT
Have to agree with this, surely we can't make the same mistakes again. We absolutely NEED experienced manager with some level of success. We can't have afford another unproven appointment. If we brought in the likes of Paul Cook, I would hope we would accept that he is fighting an up hill battle and even if the worse was to happen we would stick with him next season. Any manager coming in now, if they manage to keep us up it will be a miracle. If that’s the case, why did they get rid of PT then?? What do you mean PT has never had any success in league 1??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 19:24:21 GMT
Have to agree with this, surely we can't make the same mistakes again. We absolutely NEED experienced manager with some level of success. We can't have afford another unproven appointment. If we brought in the likes of Paul Cook, I would hope we would accept that he is fighting an up hill battle and even if the worse was to happen we would stick with him next season. Any manager coming in now, if they manage to keep us up it will be a miracle. Cook is going for championship jobs, why would he come here when he could find himself in league two next season? It’s straight out of the mad house thinking a name suitable for a long term appointment whose stock is high (Harris, Duff, Flynn, Coleman, Cook Etc) are going to come to a basket case club who have already fired two managers this season, with useless players In the middle of a relegation battle. The sort of realistic candidates for us have already been sacked this season, can’t get a job anywhere else and are desperate for a chance to prove himself. In other words: a Garner or a Coughlan. We had our chance to get a quality replacement in and Starnes got straight on the phone to Tisdale.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 19:26:15 GMT
If that’s the case, why did they get rid of PT then?? What do you mean PT has never had any success in league 1?? Exactly, some of us did point that out when his name was doing the rounds. It makes you wonder if the board did any due diligence on him? Such a lazy mediocre appointment and we are paying the price now.
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 10, 2021 19:26:18 GMT
If that’s the case, why did they get rid of PT then?? What do you mean PT has never had any success in league 1?? You said if they struggle and go down, they should remain. But that’s saying that PT isn’t to blame either then. PT did take a team from non league, to finish 3 points outside the league 1 player’s, before losing player’s. That’s more success than we have had at this level, for over 20 years.
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Post by cj on Feb 10, 2021 19:31:11 GMT
My message to Wael is... Thank you for getting rid of Tisdale. 3 games too late but better late than never. I had no faith in the guy and we were certain for the drop. However, without even knowing who the manager will be, im already feeling optimistic of survival because surely, it can't be worse than Tisdale.
Edit.... And now I have said that, I have probably jinxed us.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 19:32:06 GMT
Have to agree with this, surely we can't make the same mistakes again. We absolutely NEED experienced manager with some level of success. We can't have afford another unproven appointment. If we brought in the likes of Paul Cook, I would hope we would accept that he is fighting an up hill battle and even if the worse was to happen we would stick with him next season. Any manager coming in now, if they manage to keep us up it will be a miracle. Cook is going for championship jobs, why would he come here when he could find himself in league two next season? It’s straight out of the mad house thinking a name suitable for a long term appointment whose stock is high (Harris, Duff, Flynn, Coleman, Cook Etc) are going to come to a basket case club who have already fired two managers this season, with useless players In the middle of a relegation battle. The sort of realistic candidates for us have already been sacked this season, can’t get a job anywhere else and are desperate for a chance to prove himself. In other words: a Garner or a Coughlan. We had our chance to get a quality replacement in and Starnes got straight on the phone to Tisdale. But PC ain’t got a job yet and whoever takes over now won’t be blamed if we are relegated,IMO I think a manager with a strong character would sort this squad out to beat the drop.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Feb 11, 2021 7:44:27 GMT
Some of the names being mentioned over the last couple of days are totally unrealistic. How are we in a position to attract managers like Cook?
I think there’s going to be some very disappointed Gaschatters in a week or so when the new gaffer is announced. It won’t be a Cook or a Flynn.
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Post by gasbath on Feb 11, 2021 8:20:51 GMT
Wael if we used the money we are using for the severance pay for BG & PT to get in a couple of Marque players in the first place we wouldn't be in this situation
I think it's a case of learning by your mistakes
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Post by Windmill Hill Gas on Feb 11, 2021 8:29:50 GMT
I am greatful to Wael for supporting the club financially, and taking the hit to sack managers when it wasn't working. But it was madness to offer Garner and Tisdale 2.5 year contracts. Garner was unproven and looking for his managerial break, and Tisdale had been sacked after a poor start at League 1 level and had been out of work for a year. Surely both would have accepted a 1.5 year deal with an extension triggered by success on the pitch? If it is Starnes who has offered out these contracts, then maybe Wael should be axeing him as he's cost him a fortune!
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 11, 2021 8:42:54 GMT
It seems to me the way we run the club now is by separating recruitment away, and managers essentially are just coaches. They may ask for x player but they aren’t managing a club, they are head of the first team and kind of the line manager for the players.
It’s how a lot of top clubs run these days hence we seem like we are far more likely to keep sacking managers rather that wholesale squad changes.
It’s clear Wael and the club feel there is nothing wrong with this squad and it’s mismanagement and underperformance causing the issue.
I would actually agree, to some extent that this squad are good enough to survive in league 1. We should not be where we are. We are short a striker.
I think we were actually worse under the last few games under Tis, because he clearly wants negative, percentage based football and that isn’t the best use of resource in this squad.
As for a new manager, I think it has to be someone the players will respect. A load of premier league academy players having some bloke from the lower leagues they’ve probably not really heard of telling them to play ball to the strikers early and clearly league 2 type tactics.....was doomed to failure but hey, I thought “experienced league manager” so I thought it was the right appointment.
Whomever gets the job, it does need to be someone they won’t question, someone who’s been in the game higher than league 1/2. And I don’t mean Holloway. We love him but he isn’t that respected anymore and these thoughtful, thinking technical players aren’t the type to be “fired up”. It’s not that kind of squad.
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Post by BrightonGas on Feb 11, 2021 9:27:41 GMT
Please don’t do the cheap option for the new manager incoming,it’s costing you more money than it’s worth. please look at the likes of Paul cook,Coleman from Accrington,plus plenty of other good candidates out there. By the way I’ve been told to ask you don’t take any notice of Pirate or GGMI no offence guys UTG...... Shouldn't it be. ...please look at the likes of Mr Paul, etc
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Post by BS6 Gas on Feb 11, 2021 9:42:08 GMT
Please don’t do the cheap option for the new manager incoming,it’s costing you more money than it’s worth. please look at the likes of Paul cook,Coleman from Accrington,plus plenty of other good candidates out there. By the way I’ve been told to ask you don’t take any notice of Pirate or GGMI no offence guys UTG...... Shouldn't it be. ...please look at the likes of Mr Paul, etc Like him or loathe him, in hindsight we should have appointed Cottrell before BG. I don’t think Ollie is the right choice but could be the motivator the players respond to and picks the club back off it’s knees
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Post by lpgas1 on Feb 11, 2021 11:55:43 GMT
It's Mr Al Qadi. Wael is his first name
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 11, 2021 12:41:52 GMT
It's Mr Al Qadi. Wael is his first name
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