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Post by RD on Feb 17, 2021 12:49:53 GMT
Tisdale is middle class Tommy is working class Abbreviated, but these are the main communication difficulties between the 2 classes. WC - generally honest, but confrontational and lacking in tact. Appears brutish and unrefined to the middle classes MC - careful with words, sugar coats, considers others, doesn’t go head on. Appears sneaky to the WC. As a WC person in a MC career I’ve noticed this misunderstanding a lot. Aye he was really careful with words and considering others when he absolutely obliterated all three strikers in public. The biggest conman in football The biggest was his predecessor.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 17, 2021 12:52:02 GMT
When Starnes hired Tisdale he said he was the perfect fit and his and the board targets for the club were aligned! . Will the next manager be another perfect fit I wonder ??🤔 To be honest I thought they were aligned with each other before PT came in.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 12:53:29 GMT
“The whole is greater than the sum of the parts.”
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Post by spiess1 on Feb 17, 2021 12:53:52 GMT
Fair play to him for a very good insightful statement. As he does us, I for one wish him every success in the future. UTG! Mr Plausible impresses Mr Gullible, or what. (nothing personal...really...bids,....i appreciate your contributions more than most others)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 12:57:30 GMT
Aye he was really careful with words and considering others when he absolutely obliterated all three strikers in public. The biggest conman in football The biggest was his predecessor. Nah not really cause BG will be finished now. Tisdale will continue to blag jobs cause he writes well and dresses like page 54 of the English heritage catalogue
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 17, 2021 13:12:44 GMT
Tisdale is middle class Tommy is working class Abbreviated, but these are the main communication difficulties between the 2 classes. WC - generally honest, but confrontational and lacking in tact. Appears brutish and unrefined to the middle classes MC - careful with words, sugar coats, considers others, doesn’t go head on. Appears sneaky to the WC. As a WC person in a MC career I’ve noticed this misunderstanding a lot. Not much genralisation and stereotyping here. Lol. It can be true, though. Add in a Bristol accent, and you can add 'thick as pigshit' to the list.
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Post by Okebournegas on Feb 17, 2021 13:18:19 GMT
Tisdale is middle class Tommy is working class Abbreviated, but these are the main communication difficulties between the 2 classes. WC - generally honest, but confrontational and lacking in tact. Appears brutish and unrefined to the middle classes MC - careful with words, sugar coats, considers others, doesn’t go head on. Appears sneaky to the WC. As a WC person in a MC career I’ve noticed this misunderstanding a lot. That’s a classic 😂
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Post by Okebournegas on Feb 17, 2021 13:19:01 GMT
Not much genralisation and stereotyping here. Lol. It can be true, though. Add in a Bristol accent, and you can add 'thick as pigshit' to the list. 😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 13:35:54 GMT
The biggest was his predecessor. Nah not really cause BG will be finished now. Tisdale will continue to blag jobs cause he writes well and dresses like page 54 of the English heritage catalogue Surely Ben is highly regarded enough to land another coaching role. As the main man? Probably not. As for your English Heritage Catalogue quote, i just checked, there is a recipe for a Quiche on page 54. How very apt.
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 17, 2021 13:38:42 GMT
A good statement from Tis, just about stays the right side of not coming across as bitter. Though he clearly wasn’t on the same wavelength as TW. Perhaps more a Martin Starnes’ appointment? The dynamic between MS and TW will be interesting to watch in the months ahead. Again I don’t really disagree with what he said about the balance of the squad, most fans on here have been saying the same all season. And we have midfielders who will never get a game and strikers like Hanlan who must be worn out already with this cycle of Saturday/Tuesday games. But he shouldn’t have criticised some players publicly and he came in knowing all that stuff. So I feel sympathy but it’s all about the club and last night was great. It’s just a shame there were no fans to have set the place alive. UTG!
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 17, 2021 13:41:35 GMT
Tisdale is middle class Tommy is working class Abbreviated, but these are the main communication difficulties between the 2 classes. WC - generally honest, but confrontational and lacking in tact. Appears brutish and unrefined to the middle classes MC - careful with words, sugar coats, considers others, doesn’t go head on. Appears sneaky to the WC. As a WC person in a MC career I’ve noticed this misunderstanding a lot. Not much genralisation and stereotyping here. Lol. You can quite easily generalise and stereotype people because that’s the definition of a social class. The entire basis of a class is that the people within it share characteristics. As a white middle aged working class male, people may make generalisations, like I enjoy beer and football. That’s true for me and everyone else I know within my social class. I think in the rush to not be seen as discriminatory, we’ve forgotten that stereotypes come about because to some extent, they are true. They weren’t made up to spite people. My entire team at work are middle class and every single one loves rugby, they talk a lot about holidays, and they all like wine. Stereotypes would be less effective if people stopped conforming to them.
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Post by rusho'gas on Feb 17, 2021 13:47:22 GMT
Not sure about that. Why would anyone claim to be Gas if they didn't have to ? Plenty more fashionable and attractive options open to cast a coat over.
Was on a train from Bedford to Bletchley recently when two MK Dons fans started discussing Tisdale and one pointed out that he (PT) was Gas. Total coincidence?
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Post by mariobalotelli on Feb 17, 2021 13:52:31 GMT
Didn’t improve us at all. Was the complete wrong appointment and threw his players under the bus when he should have perhaps taken some of the blame.
I’ve said all season and still believe to this day that our recruitment has been very good. Might be lacking a little up front but a good manager will get these players firing. Not saying that’s TW either. We need a proven manager at this level
Didn’t even realise he was gas? Has this been his first mention of it?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 17, 2021 13:55:04 GMT
Didn’t improve us at all. Was the complete wrong appointment and threw his players under the bus when he should have perhaps taken some of the blame. I’ve said all season and still believe to this day that our recruitment has been very good. Might be lacking a little up front but a good manager will get these players firing. Not saying that’s TW either. We need a proven manager at this level Didn’t even realise he was gas? Has this been his first mention of it? He mentioned it when he first came here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 13:55:31 GMT
To be fair to Tisdale there seems to be a lot of "well why did he criticise the strikers and not play Ayunga, look what Ayunga can do!". Last night's success was built around launching it to Ayunga and playing to his strengths. Widdrington is on the board and has the "privilege" of being able to play in that style with simple instructions.
Tisdale was brought in to develop the players and get them playing complex pass and move football, not to give them simple instructions ("just hit the big lad" etc). I can imagine Tisdale would have fallen out with people a lot earlier if on day one he had told the players "right forget these ideas you've got of why you were brought here, we're just gonna hoof it and win some knockdowns". So in that sense I do have some sympathy. It might turn out to be the ultimate irony that after all the bollocks since GC left about Rovers DNA and Garner type players the squad that has been assembled were an excellent long ball team all along...
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Post by mariobalotelli on Feb 17, 2021 14:00:58 GMT
To be fair to Tisdale there seems to be a lot of "well why did he criticise the strikers and not play Ayunga, look what Ayunga can do!". Last night's success was built around launching it to Ayunga and playing to his strengths. Widdrington is on the board and has the "privilege" of being able to play in that style with simple instructions. Tisdale was brought in to develop the players and get them playing complex pass and move football, not to give them simple instructions ("just hit the big lad" etc). I can imagine Tisdale would have fallen out with people a lot earlier if on day one he had told the players "right forget these ideas you've got of why you were brought here, we're just gonna hoof it and win some knockdowns". So in that sense I do have some sympathy. It might turn out to be the ultimate irony that after all the bollocks since GC left about Rovers DNA and Garner type players the squad that has been assembled were an excellent long ball team all along... No he wasn’t. He was brought in to get us results and he didn’t do that.
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 17, 2021 14:04:14 GMT
To be fair to Tisdale there seems to be a lot of "well why did he criticise the strikers and not play Ayunga, look what Ayunga can do!". Last night's success was built around launching it to Ayunga and playing to his strengths. Widdrington is on the board and has the "privilege" of being able to play in that style with simple instructions. Tisdale was brought in to develop the players and get them playing complex pass and move football, not to give them simple instructions ("just hit the big lad" etc). I can imagine Tisdale would have fallen out with people a lot earlier if on day one he had told the players "right forget these ideas you've got of why you were brought here, we're just gonna hoof it and win some knockdowns". So in that sense I do have some sympathy. It might turn out to be the ultimate irony that after all the bollocks since GC left about Rovers DNA and Garner type players the squad that has been assembled were an excellent long ball team all along... Tisdales last few games were abject hoofball. Ball into strikers early, that was our main tactic The tactic last night was not to just hoof it to Ayunga, we played a lot of long balls out wide to leahy and Nicholson/Williams
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 14:06:58 GMT
To be fair to Tisdale there seems to be a lot of "well why did he criticise the strikers and not play Ayunga, look what Ayunga can do!". Last night's success was built around launching it to Ayunga and playing to his strengths. Widdrington is on the board and has the "privilege" of being able to play in that style with simple instructions. Tisdale was brought in to develop the players and get them playing complex pass and move football, not to give them simple instructions ("just hit the big lad" etc). I can imagine Tisdale would have fallen out with people a lot earlier if on day one he had told the players "right forget these ideas you've got of why you were brought here, we're just gonna hoof it and win some knockdowns". So in that sense I do have some sympathy. It might turn out to be the ultimate irony that after all the bollocks since GC left about Rovers DNA and Garner type players the squad that has been assembled were an excellent long ball team all along... No he wasn’t. He was brought in to get us results and he didn’t do that. So the club completely abandoned the Garner philosophy when they hired Tisdale? That makes his appointment even worse because there were plenty of manager's to choose from if playing style wasn't even a constraint
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Post by William Wilson on Feb 17, 2021 14:11:23 GMT
To be fair to Tisdale there seems to be a lot of "well why did he criticise the strikers and not play Ayunga, look what Ayunga can do!". Last night's success was built around launching it to Ayunga and playing to his strengths. Widdrington is on the board and has the "privilege" of being able to play in that style with simple instructions. Tisdale was brought in to develop the players and get them playing complex pass and move football, not to give them simple instructions ("just hit the big lad" etc). I can imagine Tisdale would have fallen out with people a lot earlier if on day one he had told the players "right forget these ideas you've got of why you were brought here, we're just gonna hoof it and win some knockdowns". So in that sense I do have some sympathy. It might turn out to be the ultimate irony that after all the bollocks since GC left about Rovers DNA and Garner type players the squad that has been assembled were an excellent long ball team all along... To be fair, any team who have a big, tall, strong centre forward, who is capable of holding the ball up while the midfield swarm forward to support him, could be an excellent long ball team.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 14:13:01 GMT
To be fair to Tisdale there seems to be a lot of "well why did he criticise the strikers and not play Ayunga, look what Ayunga can do!". Last night's success was built around launching it to Ayunga and playing to his strengths. Widdrington is on the board and has the "privilege" of being able to play in that style with simple instructions. Tisdale was brought in to develop the players and get them playing complex pass and move football, not to give them simple instructions ("just hit the big lad" etc). I can imagine Tisdale would have fallen out with people a lot earlier if on day one he had told the players "right forget these ideas you've got of why you were brought here, we're just gonna hoof it and win some knockdowns". So in that sense I do have some sympathy. It might turn out to be the ultimate irony that after all the bollocks since GC left about Rovers DNA and Garner type players the squad that has been assembled were an excellent long ball team all along... Tisdales last few games were abject hoofball. Ball into strikers early, that was our main tactic The tactic last night was not to just hoof it to Ayunga, we played a lot of long balls out wide to leahy and Nicholson/Williams Fair point, but isn't hitting JCH and the channels what GC used to do and what Garner and Tisdale were supposed to move away from? TW has spoken himself about bringing in a different sort of player after GC left. Seems like it's all come full circle
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