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Post by gruad on Mar 16, 2021 22:57:19 GMT
In the games I have watched since JB became manager I have seen a definite bias against Rovers. Now I am the most biased person in favour of Rovers, but I do think this has been the case but not really tonight.
Tonight was a soft pen for Rovers then soft freekicks for Addicks going down. So poor refereeing that JB goes on about saying that L1 should have paid refs.
But 4-1 against Accrington should have been an extra goal to us and a man sent off for them.
Hull result cant really argue.
Burton was another game of strange decision with Chelski boy being sent off for nothing. JB had a contstant battle with the lino and it looked like the ref decided to show Barton who was boss.
I did boxing until I realised there are people an order of magnitude quicker than me. I think Joey is like this and is running on a higher KHz than most people including the refs.
But being in the right does not win the game. I have badmouthed plod and found myself on a blue mattress in a cell for a minor transgression for not being able to contain my righteousness.
Certainly JB has a reputation for being a very bad boy and I believe figures of authority are looking to make their mark.
So I believe JB confrontational attitude may be counter productive. Sure it fires me as a fan but we would have a couple of more points but for the bias that he carries on stoking.
He is super smart in his football vision but he needs to adopt a management approach to get the refs on our side.
Dont call the referee poor. Analyse what poor refs do and exploit that.
Like I said I dont know much about football compared to many on here but I am approaching this purely as a management problem and would be interested to hear other Gasheads opinions
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Post by pirate on Mar 16, 2021 23:03:11 GMT
Chelsea boy was sent off for kicking the ball away. A yellow card offence. His second yellow of the game, hence the sending off. The correct decision.
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Post by brfc on Mar 16, 2021 23:03:15 GMT
I think refs have been unbiased to us since that Swindon game got called off and us making an a complaint .
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Post by axegas on Mar 16, 2021 23:03:35 GMT
I thought the pen for us was spot on, Ayunga was taken down in the box with clear contact. Baldwin committed a definite foul to give away the free kick that led to their second goal, again correct decision. I also think the Day incident was a red card, but can see why others disagree. Honestly I don’t have too many complaints about tonight’s ref.
The McCormick incident was also a justifiable second yellow, as frustrating as it might be that some refs let you get away with that kind of thing and some don’t.
Yes, we’ve had some dodgy refs during Barton’s short time in charge, but lets be honest when has there not been a bad standard of refereeing in league one? It’s something thats happened to us under Tisdale and us under Garner as well.
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Post by daniel300380 on Mar 16, 2021 23:11:35 GMT
Chelsea boy was sent off for kicking the ball away. A yellow card offence. His second yellow of the game, hence the sending off. The correct decision. Not in context it wasn’t. As their player’s did the same and blocked quick free kicks and didn’t get yellows. You can’t book one team for an offence and not the other. If he had booked all their player’s, i would agree with you. If refs stick to the laws, like you’re saying, player’s would be sent off every game and you get about 10 penalties per game etc. So yes by the letter of law it might have been a yellow, but 99/100 most refs don’t give a 2nd yellow for that. Like they don’t give penalties for pulling at corners etc. |
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Post by pirate on Mar 16, 2021 23:12:57 GMT
Chelsea boy was sent off for kicking the ball away. A yellow card offence. His second yellow of the game, hence the sending off. The correct decision. Not in context it wasn’t. As their player’s did the same and blocked quick free kicks and didn’t get yellows. You can’t book one team for an offence and not the other. If he had booked all their player’s, i would agree with you. If refs stick to the laws, like you’re saying, player’s would be sent off every game and you get about 10 penalties per game etc. So yes by the letter of law it might have been a yellow, but 99/100 most refs don’t give a 2nd yellow for that. Like they don’t give penalties for pulling at corners etc. It was a blatant yellow. He can have no complaints. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Mar 16, 2021 23:16:11 GMT
Not in context it wasn’t. As their player’s did the same and blocked quick free kicks and didn’t get yellows. You can’t book one team for an offence and not the other. If he had booked all their player’s, i would agree with you. If refs stick to the laws, like you’re saying, player’s would be sent off every game and you get about 10 penalties per game etc. So yes by the letter of law it might have been a yellow, but 99/100 most refs don’t give a 2nd yellow for that. Like they don’t give penalties for pulling at corners etc. It was a blatant yellow. He can have no complaints. They did the same thing on two occasions in the same game. He kicked the ball a few yards. Seen the same thing happen in every game since. Why was no ones else booked, if it’s blatant??? Seen them given as a first yellow occasionally, but hardly ever as a 2nd yellow. He shouldn’t have given him a decision to make. But it was very harsh. |
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Post by Gastafari on Mar 16, 2021 23:47:59 GMT
League 1 referees are poor. Full stop.
Just like the Conference refs were abysmal and League 2 were very poor.
Championship referees slightly better and Premier League have the best.
Just like the players, the higher up the pyramid you go, the better they will be, generally.
I don't think the decisions we get given or not has anything to do with Joey Barton.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 23:52:20 GMT
It was a blatant yellow. He can have no complaints. They did the same thing on two occasions in the same game. He kicked the ball a few yards. Seen the same thing happen in every game since. Why was no ones else booked, if it’s blatant??? Seen them given as a first yellow occasionally, but hardly ever as a 2nd yellow. He shouldn’t have given him a decision to make. But it was very harsh. By the letter of the law it was a yellow card, we can moan all we want about them not getting yellows but it still doesn’t chance the fact that what he did was a yellow card offence and a caution was justified. We can feel hard done by but that doesn’t change the fact that he committed a yellow card offence |
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 17, 2021 0:43:32 GMT
Never heard so much nonsence. officials were very poor when we had Tisdale and Garner. The fact is that the standard is shocking and when you are fighting relegation every mistake ends up in the net and decisions don't go your way.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Mar 17, 2021 4:59:25 GMT
They did the same thing on two occasions in the same game. He kicked the ball a few yards. Seen the same thing happen in every game since. Why was no ones else booked, if it’s blatant??? Seen them given as a first yellow occasionally, but hardly ever as a 2nd yellow. He shouldn’t have given him a decision to make. But it was very harsh. By the letter of the law it was a yellow card, we can moan all we want about them not getting yellows but it still doesn’t chance the fact that what he did was a yellow card offence and a caution was justified. We can feel hard done by but that doesn’t change the fact that he committed a yellow card offence I think the bigger issue is whilst I agree as per the law it is a yellow card, but then the following game we see opposition players do the same thing and get away with it. Its the inconsistency of the officials that annoys me most. |
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Post by Congas on Mar 17, 2021 6:08:09 GMT
League 1 referees are poor. Full stop. Just like the Conference refs were abysmal and League 2 were very poor. Championship referees slightly better and Premier League have the best. Just like the players, the higher up the pyramid you go, the better they will be, generally. I don't think the decisions we get given or not has anything to do with Joey Barton. This was a PL ref |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 6:28:11 GMT
By the letter of the law it was a yellow card, we can moan all we want about them not getting yellows but it still doesn’t chance the fact that what he did was a yellow card offence and a caution was justified. We can feel hard done by but that doesn’t change the fact that he committed a yellow card offence I think the bigger issue is whilst I agree as per the law it is a yellow card, but then the following game we see opposition players do the same thing and get away with it. Its the inconsistency of the officials that annoys me most. And that’s fine, it was still a sending off though |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Mar 17, 2021 7:05:45 GMT
I think the bigger issue is whilst I agree as per the law it is a yellow card, but then the following game we see opposition players do the same thing and get away with it. Its the inconsistency of the officials that annoys me most. And that’s fine, it was still a sending off though Agreed. We would just like to see more consistency from the officials. I think football fans in general make a bigger thing of the officiating when you are in a relegation battle. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 7:33:23 GMT
The Referees don’t miss chances or defend poor we do that ourselves,hence relagation looms I’m afraid 😟
But we can’t throw in the towel just yet.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 17, 2021 8:12:54 GMT
Chelsea boy was sent off for kicking the ball away. A yellow card offence. His second yellow of the game, hence the sending off. The correct decision. What about all the other times the ball was kicked away during that game and the rest of the season when no card was given? |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 17, 2021 8:14:21 GMT
Not in context it wasn’t. As their player’s did the same and blocked quick free kicks and didn’t get yellows. You can’t book one team for an offence and not the other. If he had booked all their player’s, i would agree with you. If refs stick to the laws, like you’re saying, player’s would be sent off every game and you get about 10 penalties per game etc. So yes by the letter of law it might have been a yellow, but 99/100 most refs don’t give a 2nd yellow for that. Like they don’t give penalties for pulling at corners etc. It was a blatant yellow. He can have no complaints. Are you saying that refs have no obligation to be consistent? |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 17, 2021 8:24:11 GMT
It was a blatant yellow. He can have no complaints. Are you saying that refs have no obligation to be consistent? The Refs are more consistent than our defenders. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 17, 2021 8:28:55 GMT
Are you saying that refs have no obligation to be consistent? The Refs are more consistent than our defenders. Is that relevant? Is it ok to say, we're sh** therefore it's ok to have slightly less sh** refs. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2021 8:44:49 GMT
I think the refs have been less Biased than the OP.
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