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Post by TAGas on Mar 26, 2021 14:01:11 GMT
Just babbling on about the past again, just needs to concentrate on getting 3 points tomorrow which he if that is achieved then that would probably the best result we've had for a long time.
Can't see it. If someone offered me a boring 0-0 tomorrow i'll bite their hand off.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 14:01:44 GMT
Well we have said it on here and now someone in a position of authority has said it.
Garner wasn't negligent ... he was incompetent and should never have been given the role. That knock on makes the people appointing him also incompetent as proper due diligence clearly was not carried out.
Tisdale was negligent ... he knew what to do but tried to baffle with softly spoken articulate bullshit and did not fulfill his role in any way.
The people who put these frauds into role need to either be removed from role or if in the most senior aspect,look in the mirror and realise they need proper support in the decision making process when running a football club.
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Post by horfield on Mar 26, 2021 14:03:51 GMT
Pseudo intellectual, even had the heavy rimmed glasses on again today. Haven't seen them on since the first day he arrived, why doesn't he engage his brain and ask himself which guy appointed the most uninspiring bag of cement manager Ben Garner in the clubs history. Hasselbaink turned things around at Burton Albion in less games than Barton has had, all of this from a guy who could be in HMP Wakefield from June 11th, at least he can moan about the screws when there and suggest they get fitter.
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Post by singupgas on Mar 26, 2021 14:04:00 GMT
Quite right. He’s only saying what a lot of supporters have been thinking for a while. It's not his job to say what supporters are thinking. It's his job to get us some wins, and so far he's been sh** at it. Antonio we have been sh** all season in case you haven't noticed. His point stands, that the squad in his professional opinion and as many of us fans also see it, has been poorly put together. |
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Post by axegas on Mar 26, 2021 14:06:04 GMT
It's not his job to say what supporters are thinking. It's his job to get us some wins, and so far he's been sh** at it. Antonio we have been sh** all season in case you haven't noticed. His point stands, that the squad in his professional opinion and as many of us fans also see it, has been poorly put together. In that case, what is going to be gained from deflecting blame that isn’t being put on him in the first place? Would prefer he just looked forward to the Sunderland game and focused on his job. |
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Post by Rod1883 on Mar 26, 2021 14:09:00 GMT
Pseudo intellectual, even had the heavy rimmed glasses on again today. Haven't seen them on since the first day he arrived, why doesn't he engage his brain and ask himself which guy appointed the most uninspiring bag of cement manager Ben Garner in the clubs history. Hasselbaink turned things around at Burton Albion in less games than Barton has had, all of this from a guy who could be in HMP Wakefield from June 11th, at least he can moan about the screws when there and suggest they get fitter. To be fair, Burton had the opportunity to bring in 9 new players in January under their new manager. Tisdale failed us miserably in Jan. JB has had very little chance to do anything with 2 games a week, players picking up injuries, and Ref's seemingly having it in for us too. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 26, 2021 14:09:19 GMT
Well we have said it on here and now someone in a position of authority has said it. Garner wasn't negligent ... he was incompetent and should never have been given the role. That knock on makes the people appointing him also incompetent as proper due diligence clearly was not carried out. Tisdale was negligent ... he knew what to do but tried to baffle with softly spoken articulate bullshit and did not fulfill his role in any way. The people who put these frauds into role need to either be removed from role or if in the most senior aspect,look in the mirror and realise they need proper support in the decision making process when running a football club. But surely the authority you're citing is just another 'fraud' appointed by those who you think should be removed? |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 26, 2021 14:11:38 GMT
Just on the "...had enough time..." point you make bud I am not sure they have had much time in reality... Play Saturday - Off Sunday - In Monday (can't be a hard session as game Tuesday) - Play Tuesday - Off Wednesday - Full Training Thursday - In Friday (can't be a hard session as game Saturday): Repeat Based on the above and that he joined on 22nd Feb I make that 5 full training sessions and 9 part sessions It's not an awful lot of time to change mindset / push over your ideas and drill them into them so it's organic That being said I haven't been a coach, so no idea how short or long a time it takes. Apart from the lapses in concentration the team seem to playing a different style with a much higher press. I’m mainly referring to all these negligent practices he alleges have gone on under Tisdale/Garner. Five weeks on the grass is enough to completely change the coaching regime, install new ideas into the heads of the players and expect some kind of results from it. We’re talking about regular contact, regular exchange of ideas, regular drills, it’s not just training sessions where you can make an impact. He can’t change the makeup of the squad without a new transfer window, but was fully expecting all this tough training the players were on about in their interviews, to have had some kind of effect by now. If there hasn’t been enough time for a new manager to make a change by now, why did we sack Tisdale? Again I am still not convinced it is enough time given pre and post game type stuff that I assume needs to happen. After all, "pre season" is what about 4-6 weeks with a game here and there but mainly drilling your plans into the lads - happy that we agree to disagree though axe, just wanted to offer my opinion that it doesn't seem like a long time during a busy schedule Why we sacked Tisdale... probably an accumulation of a lot of things... for me, I admired him a first, then it grew a bit too much, a bit like arrogance or something, like I am way more intelligent than you type stuff (slightly different to Joeys arrogance). The players seem to not play any better really and we didn't bring in the components we needed in January (might not have been his fault there though - we just don't know). Couple that will the sheer amount of TISDALE OUT type calls that were all over social media (which we don't seem to be getting for JB) all added towards the decision that was made by the board. All my opinion mind |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 14:12:04 GMT
When does Joey Barton start saving us from relegation? Asking for a friend. You got a foul mouth for a moderator RD Just saying for a friend. |
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Post by gregsy on Mar 26, 2021 14:13:09 GMT
Well we have said it on here and now someone in a position of authority has said it. Garner wasn't negligent ... he was incompetent and should never have been given the role. That knock on makes the people appointing him also incompetent as proper due diligence clearly was not carried out. Tisdale was negligent ... he knew what to do but tried to baffle with softly spoken articulate bullshit and did not fulfill his role in any way. The people who put these frauds into role need to either be removed from role or if in the most senior aspect,look in the mirror and realise they need proper support in the decision making process when running a football club. But surely the authority you're citing is just another 'fraud' appointed by those who you think should be removed? Yeah, there is certainly a paradox in there.... |
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Post by singupgas on Mar 26, 2021 14:13:22 GMT
Antonio we have been sh** all season in case you haven't noticed. His point stands, that the squad in his professional opinion and as many of us fans also see it, has been poorly put together. In that case, what is going to be gained from deflecting blame that isn’t being put on him in the first place? Would prefer he just looked forward to the Sunderland game and focused on his job. Imagine he is focused on the game. Some of you guys getting so petty it is embarrassing. I have no doubt that the squad didnt spent the ENTIRE day watching YouTube videos of Sergio Ramos. If you taking that literally then I think you shouldn't I am sure he has done his homework on Sunderland, over to the players tomorrow now to step up and be counted. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 26, 2021 14:17:30 GMT
It's not his job to say what supporters are thinking. It's his job to get us some wins, and so far he's been sh** at it. Antonio we have been sh** all season in case you haven't noticed. His point stands, that the squad in his professional opinion and as many of us fans also see it, has been poorly put together. Yes, of course, I've noticed, and we've been saying it for months. It's not a question of whether his point stands, it's a question of whether it's worth saying. What I don't get is why everyone is so happy that JB is saying it. He's the manager, he's supposed to be managing, winning matches, stopping us getting relegated. Anyone can say we're sh**, everyone has been saying that, coz we are. We don't need to pay someone £100,000 pa (or whatever) to tell us what we already know. We don't get points for agreeing with the manager, in case you haven't noticed. We won't stay up coz the manager says what we're thinking. 7 points from 10 games is sh**e however you dice it. Saying we're sh** is blindingly obvious. Stating the obvious is easy. JB is losing games and stating the obvious, and everyone's going 'Yay, hurray for JB!' Why? I could lose games and state the obvious for Rovers for free. Why won't they employ me to lose games and state the obvious? Coz that's not actually the desired outcome. (Although I could do it, if you're reading Wael. You've employed every other hopeless lady garden this season, may as well give me a go.) |
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Post by axegas on Mar 26, 2021 14:17:45 GMT
In that case, what is going to be gained from deflecting blame that isn’t being put on him in the first place? Would prefer he just looked forward to the Sunderland game and focused on his job. Imagine he is focused on the game. Some of you guys getting so petty it is embarrassing. I have no doubt that the squad didnt spent the ENTIRE day watching YouTube videos of Sergio Ramos. If you taking that literally then I think you shouldn't I am sure he has done his homework on Sunderland, over to the players tomorrow now to step up and be counted. Yeah it probably is getting petty, so I won’t put any more on the subject. Have no doubt that Barton is thoroughly preparing like any manager would for Sunderland either. Just his interviews really annoy me, like I didn’t like the bloke before he was appointed and he’s not done anything so far to help shake off that image I had of him. |
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Post by lastminutewinner on Mar 26, 2021 14:18:17 GMT
Pseudo intellectual, even had the heavy rimmed glasses on again today. Haven't seen them on since the first day he arrived, why doesn't he engage his brain and ask himself which guy appointed the most uninspiring bag of cement manager Ben Garner in the clubs history. Hasselbaink turned things around at Burton Albion in less games than Barton has had, all of this from a guy who could be in HMP Wakefield from June 11th, at least he can moan about the screws when there and suggest they get fitter. JB has had very little chance to do anything with 2 games a week, players picking up injuries, and Ref's seemingly having it in for us too. Exactly. Those players would have also been available to ourselves you would have thought, yet apart from an enforced keeper signing, our only purchase was a RB. 2 Oxford players bought in transfer window score against us as did the Plymouth lad. Nobody available they said? Pretty sure JFH wouldn't have performed the miracle he had done at Burton without the benefit of a January transfer window, yet some are firing blame at Barton. Strange.. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 14:25:43 GMT
Well we have said it on here and now someone in a position of authority has said it. Garner wasn't negligent ... he was incompetent and should never have been given the role. That knock on makes the people appointing him also incompetent as proper due diligence clearly was not carried out. Tisdale was negligent ... he knew what to do but tried to baffle with softly spoken articulate bullshit and did not fulfill his role in any way. The people who put these frauds into role need to either be removed from role or if in the most senior aspect,look in the mirror and realise they need proper support in the decision making process when running a football club. But surely the authority you're citing is just another 'fraud' appointed by those who you think should be removed? Exactly. He is criticising those who couldn't get the team to perform to a level above being a relegation threatened club and now he is failing to get the club performing any better than his predecessors, in fact his results have been worse. He's spinning so much that some are falling for his hypnoses but others see him as a Spiv. |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 26, 2021 14:29:06 GMT
A 8 and a half minute interview from two questions! Certainly likes to talk. Talks quite a bit of sense too !!! Utg |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Mar 26, 2021 14:31:11 GMT
Antonio we have been sh** all season in case you haven't noticed. His point stands, that the squad in his professional opinion and as many of us fans also see it, has been poorly put together. Yes, of course, I've noticed, and we've been saying it for months. It's not a question of whether his point stands, it's a question of whether it's worth saying. What I don't get is why everyone is so happy that JB is saying it. He's the manager, he's supposed to be managing, winning matches, stopping us getting relegated. Anyone can say we're sh**, everyone has been saying that, coz we are. We don't need to pay someone £100,000 pa (or whatever) to tell us what we already know. We don't get points for agreeing with the manager, in case you haven't noticed. We won't stay up coz the manager says what we're thinking. 7 points from 10 games is sh**e however you dice it. Saying we're sh** is blindingly obvious. Stating the obvious is easy. JB is losing games and stating the obvious, and everyone's going 'Yay, hurray for JB!' Why? I could lose games and state the obvious for Rovers for free. Why won't they employ me to lose games and state the obvious? Coz that's not actually the desired outcome. (Although I could do it, if you're reading Wael. You've employed every other hopeless lady garden this season, may as well give me a go.) For me it’s not really a matter of being ‘so’ happy with him saying it. It’s more I don’t have a problem with him saying it. I honestly don’t see what more we could do. He could roll out the cliches of them being an honest bunch of lads and hold his punches but then we’d probably be criticising him for something else altogether. Honestly for me, I’ve just given up. I don’t see what any manager can do in the short term with this bunch. You can’t coach them into being a CR7 or a Messi over night - even if you’re Sir Alex. We’re plain and simply a basket case and have been relegation bound since the first transfer window closed. So if the manager has a pop at those responsible for our situation, its a bit like hearing Dave from Yate on having a gas calling the situation as it is. |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 26, 2021 14:31:39 GMT
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 26, 2021 14:34:19 GMT
Yes, of course, I've noticed, and we've been saying it for months. It's not a question of whether his point stands, it's a question of whether it's worth saying. What I don't get is why everyone is so happy that JB is saying it. He's the manager, he's supposed to be managing, winning matches, stopping us getting relegated. Anyone can say we're sh**, everyone has been saying that, coz we are. We don't need to pay someone £100,000 pa (or whatever) to tell us what we already know. We don't get points for agreeing with the manager, in case you haven't noticed. We won't stay up coz the manager says what we're thinking. 7 points from 10 games is sh**e however you dice it. Saying we're sh** is blindingly obvious. Stating the obvious is easy. JB is losing games and stating the obvious, and everyone's going 'Yay, hurray for JB!' Why? I could lose games and state the obvious for Rovers for free. Why won't they employ me to lose games and state the obvious? Coz that's not actually the desired outcome. (Although I could do it, if you're reading Wael. You've employed every other hopeless lady garden this season, may as well give me a go.) For me it’s not really a matter of being ‘so’ happy with him saying it. It’s more I don’t have a problem with him saying it. I honestly don’t see what more we could do. He could roll out the cliches of them being an honest bunch of lads and hold his punches but then we’d probably be criticising him for something else altogether. Honestly for me, I’ve just given up. I don’t see what any manager can do in the short term with this bunch. You can’t coach them into being a CR7 or a Messi over night - even if you’re Sir Alex. We’re plain and simply a basket case and have been relegation bound since the first transfer window closed. So if the manager has a pop at those responsible for our situation, its a bit like hearing Dave from Yate on having a gas calling the situation as it is. You're through to Having a Gas. Hi, it's Joey from Runcorn here. I've been a Gashead for 5 weeks and I've never seen it this bad before. |
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Post by RD on Mar 26, 2021 14:38:44 GMT
When does Joey Barton start saving us from relegation? Asking for a friend. You got a foul mouth for a moderator RD Just saying for a friend. Having a foul mouth isn't the criteria thankfully. Pass that on to your friend for me. |
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