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Post by kampucheagas on Apr 3, 2021 7:35:42 GMT
While I agree wholeheartedly with this we do need a massive clear out of dead wood, and would probably lose any decent players (Nicholson and Rodman) Cant think of anyone that im desperate to keep in defence, and the only 2 strikers i would keep are Daley and Ayunga (i think we're playing him a season to early, next year he is going to be something else) so now we get a new team together in league 2, a team that hasn't played together and are unfamiliar with each other. This could take a season for the team to gell and play well, the likelihood of going back up in a season would be pretty low in my opinion. Though I would be more than happy to see it happen What about the 2 year contracts signed in july / august 2020?? Correct People saying we can have a new team/clear out are forgetting we have half of this squad under contract! We could have 6 or 7 new Kyle Bennets! Let that sink in No-one will be clamouring for the likes of Ehmer, Harries, Baldwin, Liddle, Koiki, Tutonda, Williams..... to name a few Barton will be stuck repeating himself like a broken record about the negligence of his predecessors for a while yet!!!
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Post by pucklegas on Apr 3, 2021 7:36:34 GMT
How about we go straight to the Southern League, should win that. I think😅 While I agree wholeheartedly with this we do need a massive clear out of dead wood, and would probably lose any decent players (Nicholson and Rodman) Cant think of anyone that im desperate to keep in defence, and the only 2 strikers i would keep are Daley and Ayunga (i think we're playing him a season to early, next year he is going to be something else) so now we get a new team together in league 2, a team that hasn't played together and are unfamiliar with each other. This could take a season for the team to gell and play well, the likelihood of going back up in a season would be pretty low in my opinion. Though I would be more than happy to see it happen Like Rodders said on commentary Ayunga has more basic ability and pace than JCH, we need to nurture that and repel Posh when they sell JCH. Massive stature very strong, very fast , two footed, just needs to be a bit more ruthless and streetwise.
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Post by kampucheagas on Apr 3, 2021 7:40:49 GMT
While I agree wholeheartedly with this we do need a massive clear out of dead wood, and would probably lose any decent players (Nicholson and Rodman) Cant think of anyone that im desperate to keep in defence, and the only 2 strikers i would keep are Daley and Ayunga (i think we're playing him a season to early, next year he is going to be something else) so now we get a new team together in league 2, a team that hasn't played together and are unfamiliar with each other. This could take a season for the team to gell and play well, the likelihood of going back up in a season would be pretty low in my opinion. Though I would be more than happy to see it happen Like Rodders said on commentary Ayunga has more basic ability and pace than JCH, we need to nurture that and repel Posh when they sell JCH. Massive stature very strong, very fast , two footed, just needs to be a bit more ruthless and streetwise. Me thinks Rodman may be talking nonsense!
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Post by oldie on Apr 3, 2021 7:42:58 GMT
While I agree wholeheartedly with this we do need a massive clear out of dead wood, and would probably lose any decent players (Nicholson and Rodman) Cant think of anyone that im desperate to keep in defence, and the only 2 strikers i would keep are Daley and Ayunga (i think we're playing him a season to early, next year he is going to be something else) so now we get a new team together in league 2, a team that hasn't played together and are unfamiliar with each other. This could take a season for the team to gell and play well, the likelihood of going back up in a season would be pretty low in my opinion. Though I would be more than happy to see it happen Like Rodders said on commentary Ayunga has more basic ability and pace than JCH, we need to nurture that and repel Posh when they sell JCH. Massive stature very strong, very fast , two footed, just needs to be a bit more ruthless and streetwise. Ayunga has shown glimpses of Jason Roberts when he first joined us. Nicholson is a championship player, will he stay? Hope if one matures and the other stays. No hope if the current manager slags them all off after every game to the end of this absolute shambles of a season. They say hope kills and now I have lost all hope so feel better.
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Post by bluebiro on Apr 3, 2021 8:18:34 GMT
Looking at league 2 on quest, we will see more physical battles, long throw set pieces, poor pitches, even worse refs and less attractive fixtures. We will struggle without significant squad changes and at least two new strikers, and centre half organiser like Millwall Tone. Westbrook will be our midfield general winning those battles and flying into challenges others would shy away from
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Post by socrates on Apr 3, 2021 8:32:08 GMT
Also the team who went down In 2001 was only by 1 point and in 2011 by 3 points. This team is much much worst. Unless Wael spends really big to readdress the fact we gone backwards. I can only see another Bradford saga.. I don’t think we need to spend big we just have to build a balanced squad with some experienced leaders. No wholesale changes needed if we got 5-6 out and brought 5-6 in and they were the right players with the right mentality then we could push on in league 1 next season or win promotion from league 2. But they have to be the right type of person. We need an experienced central defender with leadership qualities We need a tough leader in midfield We need an experienced leader in the front line And we need some pace. We all saw v Peterborough what have a tough experienced midfielder in the centre can do Ogogo was fantastic that night and we were very hard to break down and the players around him rose their games and got stuck in too.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 3, 2021 8:49:13 GMT
League 2: We're one of the bigger ones.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Apr 3, 2021 9:18:42 GMT
What people need to realise is that we aren’t a big fish in league 2. There are plenty of better run clubs than Rovers with better grounds in league 2. Whilst other clubs are making progress, we are stuck in 1993. Who is going to be scouting and recruiting the players in the summer? If it’s the same person who thought Hanlan was an adequate replacement for JCH then our stay in league 2 will be a swift one, because we will soon be back in the conference.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 3, 2021 9:19:52 GMT
By no means is it easy but you have a better chance then any other division. In the last 3 season mk Dons Northampton Plymouth and now Bolton Tranmere have gone down and have a chance of going back up.
If Bolton and Tranmere went up and you denote bury. That is 50% of club who have gone down came back up in first season. Unless my maths are poor that is a promising bit of stats.
We would need a complete make over and players like ogogo would be better suited IMO.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 3, 2021 9:24:34 GMT
What people need to realise is that we aren’t a big fish in league 2. There are plenty of better run clubs than Rovers with better grounds in league 2. Whilst other clubs are making progress, we are stuck in 1993. Who is going to be scouting and recruiting the players in the summer? If it’s the same person who thought Hanlan was an adequate replacement for JCH then our stay in league 2 will be a swift one, because we will soon be back in the conference. Yep I remember when we got relegated to L2 last and Buckle came in the summer and completely overhauled the team. I was confident we'd be up there. There's no guarantees in football. To be honest it was because of this reason I prepared myself for years in the conference when we went down but then went straight up. You just never know.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 3, 2021 9:29:50 GMT
By no means is it easy but you have a better chance then any other division. In the last 3 season mk Dons Northampton Plymouth and now Bolton Tranmere have gone down and have a chance of going back up. If Bolton and Tranmere went up and you denote bury. That is 50% of club who have gone down came back up in first season. Unless my maths are poor that is a promising bit of stats. We would need a complete make over and players like ogogo would be better suited IMO. That is promising. We've definitely seen the leagues string out in terms of overlapping competence, where back in the day if you were good enough to go up you were usually good enough to stay there. It's pretty clear that there are much wider gaps between the top three leagues these day, but I had assumed that there was still a lot of overlap between league 1 and league 2.
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Apr 3, 2021 9:36:00 GMT
We're not a big fish.
we're a poorly run medium sized club at best.
We do have an incredible fan base though
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Post by socrates on Apr 3, 2021 9:40:33 GMT
By no means is it easy but you have a better chance then any other division. In the last 3 season mk Dons Northampton Plymouth and now Bolton Tranmere have gone down and have a chance of going back up. If Bolton and Tranmere went up and you denote bury. That is 50% of club who have gone down came back up in first season. Unless my maths are poor that is a promising bit of stats. We would need a complete make over and players like ogogo would be better suited IMO. Agreed and A player or two like Ogogo in this squad all season would have meant we’re a league 1 club next season. There’s been a catalogue of errors all season but the lack of tough players psychologically and physically has been our biggest downfall.
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Post by lpgas1 on Apr 3, 2021 11:18:19 GMT
What about the 2 year contracts signed in july / august 2020?? good point well made Well those players and agents will be told that there isn't a future at the club and they will never play first team football . The younger ones will look for a new club. Most of those out of contract are the older ones (the better ones)
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Post by lpgas1 on Apr 3, 2021 11:19:20 GMT
While I agree wholeheartedly with this we do need a massive clear out of dead wood, and would probably lose any decent players (Nicholson and Rodman) Cant think of anyone that im desperate to keep in defence, and the only 2 strikers i would keep are Daley and Ayunga (i think we're playing him a season to early, next year he is going to be something else) so now we get a new team together in league 2, a team that hasn't played together and are unfamiliar with each other. This could take a season for the team to gell and play well, the likelihood of going back up in a season would be pretty low in my opinion. Though I would be more than happy to see it happen Like Rodders said on commentary Ayunga has more basic ability and pace than JCH, we need to nurture that and repel Posh when they sell JCH. Massive stature very strong, very fast , two footed, just needs to be a bit more ruthless and streetwise. and lean not to dither about with it
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Post by LJG on Apr 3, 2021 11:36:19 GMT
Been thinking..... If we start next season in League 2, then surely we have the chance of a successful promotion season. As opposed to we stay up and are attempting to be mid table in league 1 next year. Bigger fish little pond and all that. In my several decades of being Gas promotions have given me some of my best memories. So, starting over with some new players might lead to a season to remember. Are you taking the water? We went down in 01 and in 02 finished 23rd - the last season it was one down one up from the conference. The next season we finished 20th. It was another 5 years before we finally got promoted via the playoffs and even then we were only in a playoff spot for about 2 games of that season. We went down in 11 and finished 15th for a couple of seasons before eventually going down to the conference. To think that we're going to come straight back up and to think we're going to do it with this self obsessed twat as manager is just... it's not even deluded... it's just rude.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 3, 2021 12:25:01 GMT
Been thinking..... If we start next season in League 2, then surely we have the chance of a successful promotion season. As opposed to we stay up and are attempting to be mid table in league 1 next year. Bigger fish little pond and all that. In my several decades of being Gas promotions have given me some of my best memories. So, starting over with some new players might lead to a season to remember. We always think this and it never works. So no. UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 3, 2021 12:28:44 GMT
What about the 2 year contracts signed in july / august 2020?? Correct People saying we can have a new team/clear out are forgetting we have half of this squad under contract! We could have 6 or 7 new Kyle Bennets! Let that sink in No-one will be clamouring for the likes of Ehmer, Harries, Baldwin, Liddle, Koiki, Tutonda, Williams..... to name a few Barton will be stuck repeating himself like a broken record about the negligence of his predecessors for a while yet!!! Exactly this. The only way to get rid is players decide to go or other clubs come in for them and I can’t see much of a queue forming for them. A total mess, I’m afraid. UTG! ps. I suppose trying to be optimistic Rodman and Nicholson would give some hope and Abu O would also do well. It’s a shame that Rodman and Abu are at the end of their contracts (?) and may be allowed to go if we’re stuck with those we don’t really want but can’t shift on.
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Post by bluebiro on Apr 3, 2021 13:29:03 GMT
Will certainly be a experience watching some of this squad taking on the physical challenge against div2 sides next season
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Post by kruger on Apr 3, 2021 13:59:35 GMT
We will still have the worse stadium aswell, even more depressing
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