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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 8, 2021 15:06:25 GMT
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 8, 2021 15:23:05 GMT
So we need Swindon to beat Rochdale (a), Wimbledon (a), and Wigan (a) in their run in and then be deducted points at the end of the season (to be applied this season) in order to maximise our chances. Obviously we'd still need to pick up a few points in our run in too.. Wigan will be mightily peed off if they get a points deduction last season to be relegated and Swindon don’t. I know they are different offences but Swindon’s sounds like a fraud, fiddle, conspiracy against the rules of the game whilst Wigan’s was administration, which if I remember correctly was given when they were well clear of the relegation area. For Swindon to then avoid a points deduction which leads to Wigan getting another relegation this season may well cause Wigan to get their lawyers all over any lack of punishment. The authorities will be doing everything to make sure there is consistency I would have thought. UTG!
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Post by kampucheagas on Apr 8, 2021 16:11:01 GMT
This may be an unpopular view, but I do feel for their fans
I always think how I’d feel if it was our club in a similar scenario
Owners left to act in their own interests and loyal fans left to pick up the pieces
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Post by lastminutewinner on Apr 8, 2021 16:21:18 GMT
This may be an unpopular view, but I do feel for their fans I always think how I’d feel if it was our club in a similar scenario Owners left to act in their own interests and loyal fans left to pick up the pieces I still remember them throwing bricks over into the away end when they played us at their place. f**k em
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Post by seanclevedongas on Apr 8, 2021 16:23:39 GMT
This may be an unpopular view, but I do feel for their fans I always think how I’d feel if it was our club in a similar scenario Owners left to act in their own interests and loyal fans left to pick up the pieces I still remember them throwing bricks over into the away end when they played us at their place. f**k em Bricks and seats but to be fair some of our own were just as bad and were provocative from the start
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Post by Jomo on Apr 8, 2021 16:29:52 GMT
This may be an unpopular view, but I do feel for their fans I always think how I’d feel if it was our club in a similar scenario Owners left to act in their own interests and loyal fans left to pick up the pieces As always, the vast majority of any fanbase are just good people that happen to support a different club. I completely agree with you, that I feel for the fans as they're innocent to all this. But the club have a long history of being boom and bust, and they reap what they sow. Just a shame that the fans have to be the ones that suffer.
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Post by Goose on Apr 8, 2021 16:31:39 GMT
Wigans deduction came after the last game of the season... So if the worst happens, all is not lost...
I don't think it'll come to that anyway
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 8, 2021 16:42:51 GMT
Some reports from Town fans saying " FA can't deduct points only EFL " . Is this true or wishful thinking ?
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Post by axegas on Apr 8, 2021 17:00:52 GMT
Some reports from Town fans saying " FA can't deduct points only EFL " . Is this true or wishful thinking ? Apparently this is true. Although if the FA find Swindon guilty, will the EFL do the same under section 49/50 of the EFL regs? Specifically 50.1.6. 49.1 When applying to register any Player a Club shall, at the same time and in addition to the documents required to be lodged in accordance with Regulation 46.1, send to the Secretary at the Office in writing the following information: 49.1.1 whether the registering Club (and, where applicable, the Club (if it is a Member Club) that last held the Player’s registration (the ‘Player’s Former Club’)) used the services of an Intermediary(ies) and, if any, the identity of any Intermediary(ies); 49.1.2 whether the Player used the services of an Intermediary(ies) and, if any, the identity of that Intermediary(ies); 49.1.3 confirmation as to all amounts paid, either directly or indirectly, by either the registering Club or the Player’s Former Club (if it is a Member Club) to any Intermediary(ies) acting in respect of the matter; and 49.1.4 whether either the registering Club or the Player’s Former Club (if it is a Member Club) has or is intending to reimburse the Player and or the other Club in respect of any Intermediary fees paid by or which are the responsibility of the Player or the other Club. 50 Prohibition of Third Party Investment 50.1 Unless otherwise agreed by the Board and subject to Regulation 50.2, a Club may only make or receive a payment or incur any liability as a result of or in connection with the proposed or actual registration (whether permanent or temporary), transfer of registration or employment by it of a Player in the following circumstances: 50.1.1 by payment to a Transferor Club or receipt from a Transferee Club of a Compensation Fee, Loan Fee, Transfer Fee, Sell-On Fee and/or any other subsequent payments which become due under the terms of any transfer; 50.1.2 by payment of levy pursuant to Regulations 51.2.9 or 51.2.11; 50.1.3 by receipt of all or part of a Compensation Fee, Loan Fee, Transfer Fee, Sell-On Fee and/or any other subsequent payments which become due under the terms of any transfer, in default of payment of it by the Transferee Club from which it is due, from: (a) a Financial Institution or other guarantor; or (b) The League in accordance with the provisions of these Regulations; or (c) the Premier League in accordance with the provisions of the rules of the Premier League; 50.1.4 by way of remuneration (including benefits in cash or kind and Image Contract Payments) to or for the benefit of a Contract Player whose registration it holds; 50.1.5 by way of an allowance permitted by Youth Development Rule 280, to a Scholar with whom it has entered into a Scholarship Agreement; 50.1.6 by way of payment to an Intermediary provided that such payment is made in accordance with the Football Association’s Regulations on working with Intermediaries;50.1.7 by payment of incidental expenses arising in respect thereof; 50.1.8 by payment or receipt of training compensation or solidarity payment pursuant to the FIFA Regulations for the Status and Transfer of Players and any other levies or payments payable to or by a Club pursuant to the statutes or regulations of FIFA or any other football governing body from time to time, or otherwise properly due to or from such a governing body; 50.1.9 by payment of Value Added Tax payable in respect of any of the above payments or liabilities; and 50.1.10 in the case of a Transferor Club, by assignment of its entitlement to a Compensation Fee, Transfer Fee or Loan Fee to a Financial Institution. www.efl.com/-more/governance/efl-rules--regulations/section-6---players/
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Post by axegas on Apr 8, 2021 17:15:09 GMT
I assume if the FA find that Swindon haven’t followed its regulations on working with intermediaries, then Swindon also haven’t complied with Section 50.1.6 in the EFL regulations in relation to payments to intermediaries. Though I could be wrong.
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Post by BS6 Gas on Apr 8, 2021 17:28:22 GMT
Fit & proper ownership. The way Swindon have been run for years along with their financial irregularities surely makes them more of a case for sanctions than most others in the past. Leeds, Portsmouth, Oldham, Bury, Rangers.
The ironic thing is most of the above clubs bar Bury & Rangers fall on their feet after liquidation.
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Post by gulfofaden on Apr 8, 2021 17:40:13 GMT
Those Swindon lot are little slugs, little slugs with no personality jealous of us cos we’re better at everything than them.... This is big boy sh**. Yeah? Against karate?
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Post by gulfofaden on Apr 8, 2021 17:41:03 GMT
Hopefully we will. And normally I wouldn’t want us to profit from another club’s off-field problems ... but this is Swindon so exceptions can be made! Most techy young uns would probably at this stage upload a GIF of someone like DiCaprio raising a glass or Barrack Obama nodding. I am not young or techy so shall simply say... I hope they throw the book at the cheating, inbred, dizzy Fools. Thats what you get for making me urinate in that vile away end toilet of yours. Gasshole i am sorry for slashing on your Addidas gazelles circa 2006. Yeah. At least we provide first rate facilities for away fans.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 8, 2021 17:43:17 GMT
This may be an unpopular view, but I do feel for their fans I always think how I’d feel if it was our club in a similar scenario Owners left to act in their own interests and loyal fans left to pick up the pieces Very true Kampuchea. But I guess whatever happens in a club that’s bad it’s always the fans that suffer. We’d feel awful if it was us. But the bottom line is what punishment would you give them or any other club? I’d suggest any punishment would affect fans. Can you think of a suitable punishment? I can’t. And of course Swindon are serial offenders who’ve been living on a financial edge for what seems many years. The time comes when you finally have to face paying your debts. It appears that Power has broken EFL rules to try and avoid his responsibilities. UTG!
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Apr 8, 2021 17:56:29 GMT
We all know that forum contributors are ITK and right all the time 🤪
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 18:16:18 GMT
Well personally I hope they go down this season by natural shiteness causes and then get hit with a 30 point deduction in L2 - Non League bazzterd cheating Club with non league bazzterd vile fans !!
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 8, 2021 18:24:38 GMT
Well personally I hope they go down this season by natural shiteness causes and then get hit with a 30 point deduction in L2 - Non League bazzterd cheating Club with non league bazzterd vile fans !! I see your sitting on the fence as usual.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 8, 2021 18:41:37 GMT
This may be an unpopular view, but I do feel for their fans Ah I wonder if anyone would have said that the year we were waiting to get out the stadium, and a few bricks came over hitting old people and women? The Tony Pounder years....early 90s? Nasty. Obviously I feel for anyone innocent in supporting their club where they have no control over the running of the club, but to charge fans (their own as well) for a rearranged abandoned match, leave me with little empathy if the accused are found guilty. Innocent until proven otherwise.
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Post by TAGas on Apr 8, 2021 19:25:05 GMT
This may be an unpopular view, but I do feel for their fans I always think how I’d feel if it was our club in a similar scenario Owners left to act in their own interests and loyal fans left to pick up the pieces I still remember them throwing bricks over into the away end when they played us at their place. f**k em I remember the seats being thrown at me, not a fun day that one
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 19:27:10 GMT
There’s two little Robins I’d like to see go down the pan,any guesses?
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