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Post by oldtoteender on Apr 18, 2021 18:24:44 GMT
Only to us the Supporters !
The way I see it the powers that be would not worry too much as we would still get the same crowds whichever of the three Leagues we were in and the lower we are the less we would have to pay the players etc, whilst at the same time still generating the same income through the gates and sales of kit etc.
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Post by kampucheagas on Apr 18, 2021 18:42:34 GMT
Only to us the Supporters ! The way I see it the powers that be would not worry too much as we would still get the same crowds whichever of the three Leagues we were in and the lower we are the less we would have to pay the players etc, whilst at the same time still generating the same income through the gates and sales of kit etc. I often wonder this! We would arguably get higher gates doing well in league 2 than doing nothing in league 1? Even in the conference our gates were high and I seem to remember paying pretty much the same to get in!! Maybe this is all part of the new DNA and great reset? |
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 18, 2021 18:42:52 GMT
Yes. It does matter.
Saying No would only give those in power an excuse for their poor performance this season. So yes it does matter and to say anything else lets down generations of players, staff and fans who have given everything to the cause in their times. I will know it matters when I watch Quest and have to wait until the last half hour, or when we lose a few games on the trot and look at the table and see ourselves nearer to Non League, or when I watch some incompetent referees unable to control 22 players and someone who scores a goal when they should have been sent off 10 minutes before.
League 1 is our league and usually has been, not being there will hurt. It almost wipes out the efforts and endeavours of all those 2014-16 who worked hard to get us back.
So yes, it really does matter!
UTG!
ps. It’s a good question oldtoteender, so not having a go at you for asking it, honestly. But it does matter.
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Post by yattongas on Apr 18, 2021 18:48:26 GMT
Only to us the Supporters ! The way I see it the powers that be would not worry too much as we would still get the same crowds whichever of the three Leagues we were in and the lower we are the less we would have to pay the players etc, whilst at the same time still generating the same income through the gates and sales of kit etc. About 400k worth of worry I think . |
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Post by oldtoteender on Apr 18, 2021 18:50:14 GMT
Yes. It does matter. Saying No would only give those in power an excuse for their poor performance this season. So yes it does matter and to say anything else lets down generations of players, staff and fans who have given everything to the cause in their times. I will know it matters when I watch Quest and have to wait until the last half hour, or when we lose a few games on the trot and look at the table and see ourselves nearer to Non League, or when I watch some incompetent referees unable to control 22 players and someone who scores a goal when they should have been sent off 10 minutes before. League 1 is our league and usually has been, not being there will hurt. It almost wipes out the efforts and endeavours of all those 2014-16 who worked hard to get us back. So yes, it really does matter! UTG! ps. It’s a good question oldtoteender, so not having a go at you for asking it, honestly. But it does matter. That is my point WG, As i stated only to us the supporters. UTG |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 18, 2021 18:59:56 GMT
Only to us the Supporters ! The way I see it the powers that be would not worry too much as we would still get the same crowds whichever of the three Leagues we were in and the lower we are the less we would have to pay the players etc, whilst at the same time still generating the same income through the gates and sales of kit etc. I don't know if it's intentional but every time we go up to div one . We lose millions of pounds : the squad is in disarray : we sack managers and end up worst than we were before. I know in div one wage budgets for us is around £4 million and some sides in div two survive on £1 million budgets . So when I say division One is too big for us . What I mean is it gets us in trouble and is it worth it ?. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 18, 2021 19:04:51 GMT
Only to us the Supporters ! The way I see it the powers that be would not worry too much as we would still get the same crowds whichever of the three Leagues we were in and the lower we are the less we would have to pay the players etc, whilst at the same time still generating the same income through the gates and sales of kit etc. I don't know if it's intentional but every time we go up to div one . We lose millions of pounds : the squad is in disarray : we sack managers and end up worst than we were before. I know in div one wage budgets for us is around £4 million and some sides in div two survive on £1 million budgets . So when I say division One is too big for us . What I mean is it gets us in trouble and is it worth it ?. Well if you want to support a team that is going to be in L2 for the next years then that's up to you but I know I don't. Need to show some ambition. |
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Post by aghast on Apr 18, 2021 19:06:35 GMT
Only to us the Supporters ! The way I see it the powers that be would not worry too much as we would still get the same crowds whichever of the three Leagues we were in and the lower we are the less we would have to pay the players etc, whilst at the same time still generating the same income through the gates and sales of kit etc. I don't know if it's intentional but every time we go up to div one . We lose millions of pounds : the squad is in disarray : we sack managers and end up worst than we were before. I know in div one wage budgets for us is around £4 million and some sides in div two survive on £1 million budgets . So when I say division One is too big for us . What I mean is it gets us in trouble and is it worth it ?. We used to say that about being in the Championship. Thank goodness we don't have to worry about that predicament any more! |
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Post by kampucheagas on Apr 18, 2021 19:13:22 GMT
I don't know if it's intentional but every time we go up to div one . We lose millions of pounds : the squad is in disarray : we sack managers and end up worst than we were before. I know in div one wage budgets for us is around £4 million and some sides in div two survive on £1 million budgets . So when I say division One is too big for us . What I mean is it gets us in trouble and is it worth it ?. Well if you want to support a team that is going to be in L2 for the next years then that's up to you but I know I don't. Need to show some ambition. How can supporters show ambition? We surely just turn up to support whatever the division, whatever team gets put out? We have NO say in anything other than cheering them on? |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 18, 2021 19:19:41 GMT
Well if you want to support a team that is going to be in L2 for the next years then that's up to you but I know I don't. Need to show some ambition. How can supporters show ambition? We surely just turn up to support whatever the division, whatever team gets put out? We have NO say in anything other than cheering them on? You're missing my point. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 18, 2021 19:24:17 GMT
Only to us the Supporters ! The way I see it the powers that be would not worry too much as we would still get the same crowds whichever of the three Leagues we were in and the lower we are the less we would have to pay the players etc, whilst at the same time still generating the same income through the gates and sales of kit etc. Seriously, do you think Wael is sat in Jordan tonight thinking to himself that was £20m+ well spent last year by him, as he can now save a few £'s next season now we'll be playing in L2? |
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Post by kampucheagas on Apr 18, 2021 19:24:41 GMT
How can supporters show ambition? We surely just turn up to support whatever the division, whatever team gets put out? We have NO say in anything other than cheering them on? You're missing my point. But you don’t want to support a team in league 2? Is that your point? Because the club has shown no ambition? I’ve always been of the impression that you SUPPORT your club whatever the weather? (Sorry if I’ve misunderstood your point?) |
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Post by LJG on Apr 18, 2021 19:24:56 GMT
I don't know if it's intentional but every time we go up to div one . We lose millions of pounds : the squad is in disarray : we sack managers and end up worst than we were before. I know in div one wage budgets for us is around £4 million and some sides in div two survive on £1 million budgets . So when I say division One is too big for us . What I mean is it gets us in trouble and is it worth it ?. Well if you want to support a team that is going to be in L2 for the next years then that's up to you but I know I don't. Need to show some ambition. Fair weather blow in. Two a penny. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 18, 2021 19:28:52 GMT
But you don’t want to support a team in league 2? Is that your point? Because the club has shown no ambition? I’ve always been of the impression that you SUPPORT your club whatever the weather? (Sorry if I’ve misunderstood your point?) Of course but you don't support the club hoping they stay in L2 all your life because L1 is too big for you, otherwise what is the point in it all. |
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 18, 2021 19:33:48 GMT
But you don’t want to support a team in league 2? Is that your point? Because the club has shown no ambition? I’ve always been of the impression that you SUPPORT your club whatever the weather? (Sorry if I’ve misunderstood your point?) Of course but you don't support the club hoping they stay in L2 all your life because L1 is too big for you, otherwise what is the point in it all. You are 100% right div 3 shouldn't be too big for us . However is it not true div one football results in silly debt : conflict and arguments ?. If we are losing £4 mil a year : who's gonna fund the £20 mil every 5 years ?. |
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Post by teanbiscuits on Apr 18, 2021 20:15:25 GMT
Only to us the Supporters ! The way I see it the powers that be would not worry too much as we would still get the same crowds whichever of the three Leagues we were in and the lower we are the less we would have to pay the players etc, whilst at the same time still generating the same income through the gates and sales of kit etc. It will matter to the forgotten club staff behind the scenes that could loose their jobs off the back of it. |
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Post by milesy83 on Apr 19, 2021 6:43:23 GMT
To be honest, I'm not fussed about what league we're in next season. As long as I can get back to the mem with my boy and see him smile then I am happy. Days out and football is all that I need.
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Post by bluegas on Apr 19, 2021 6:56:19 GMT
Only to us the Supporters ! The way I see it the powers that be would not worry too much as we would still get the same crowds whichever of the three Leagues we were in and the lower we are the less we would have to pay the players etc, whilst at the same time still generating the same income through the gates and sales of kit etc. Seriously, do you think Wael is sat in Jordan tonight thinking to himself that was £20m+ well spent last year by him, as he can now save a few £'s next season now we'll be playing in L2? I too rather doubt that Wael has no ambition and is happy just to own a club whatever division it's in. |
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Post by bodies on Apr 19, 2021 7:20:16 GMT
Hope you don’t mind me butting in here, seeing well both be in L2 next season. Yes, it is important whichever league we’re in. The National League has been the graveyard for a whole host of historically good clubs. Just because you popped back at the first time of asking last time doesn’t mean you would next time - heaven forbid.
Out of the EFL would mean losing the solidarity payments - which has probably saved more than a few clubs this season.
I think we may be up against it next season what with the shambles my club is in at the moment. Possibility of points deduction looms large. Things are tumbling out of Power’s cupboard now - some footballing, some possibly criminal. There are letters circulating from when he took over about the money from programme sales not being banked and ‘disappearing’. Another, not verified, that he asked Mark Cooper to throw a cup game against Torquay in 2013. And there’s more to come, I fear.
See you next season!
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Post by baggins on Apr 19, 2021 7:34:26 GMT
As long as we're still around I'm not really fussed about what league we're in. I go to support the lads and see them play, who we play against is pretty irrelevant. I'll let Wael worry about the money.
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